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Edgar91
21 Sep 17
use the code: 11bgx727 to bring the price down.
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ourdevonfamily
21 Sep 17 #1
Hmmm.... 6 of these (£100 for cases) or an iPhone X :laughing:
malky39
21 Sep 17 #2
Hot deal for a very well spec'd. Usual things apply take it as having no warranty, use free shipping of you want the best chance of avoiding duty and vat, no band 20 on this version and from what can be researched do not expect any OS updates to the device
HankHandsome
21 Sep 17 #3
4070mAh battery with fast charge support as well - pretty good!
ro888
21 Sep 17 #4
Are you sure it doesn't support B20??
BUCKUM2 to ro888
21 Sep 17 #16
No it does not support band 20 according to XDA forum it is USA version link forum.xda-developers.com/le-…491
louiselouise
21 Sep 17 #5
Corking price! Gave you heat. I'm sure Sam will comment in 3, 2, 1......
sam_of_london to louiselouise
21 Sep 17 #8
Yes I will . As usual full of Leeco spyware and bloatware. Will need to be rooted to remove and then banking apps do not work . Better buy a decent phone which works straight out of the box without need for rooting or fear of viruses. You won't get peace of mind if you buy this . I bought similar Le Max2 . No way to remove Chinese spyware without rooting.
hashman to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #9
Factually incorrect
I installed custom ROM on my LeMax2
I am not rooted a d banking apps work perfectly including Halifax that does not work on rooted phones

Get facts right or avoid misleading/misinforming

Then again, maybe you are just not aware and that just puts anything you say to doubt.... Credibility zero.
sam_of_london to hashman
21 Sep 17 #13
Care to comment ? Did you get phone with unlocked bootloader ?
hashman to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #18
Lol

You clearly comment with very little knowledge about things.... I now even doubt if you have ever had this or any phone from a Chinese manufacturer or seller.

forum.xda-developers.com/le-…151
No root necessary
But your challenges and queries do make one wonder about your real motives.
sam_of_london to hashman
21 Sep 17 #20
You cannot install twrp without rooting. None of the recovery installs with out rooting . If it did your phone had unlocked bootloader. I don't think this phone has unlocked bootloader.
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #22
This comment demonstrates that you have never dealt with custom recovery, bootloaders or rooting.
sam_of_london to dreadzone101
21 Sep 17 #23
Yes true . That is why I buy phones which work straight out of the box and come without malware. But as per my previous experience , with another phone with locked bootloader , I was not able to install recovery untill I rooted it . Can anyone tell if this phone has unlocked bootloader ?
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #25
Yet you've apparently bought 2 Doogee phones and a LeEco phone :laughing:

Now you're using the term malware, when previously you said spyware and bloatware. They aren't necessarily interchangeable terms. Again demonstrating your lack of understanding. But sure, go ahead and ignore my previous comment requesting for you to provide proof of your claims. I expected for you to be unable to do so, anyway.
sam_of_london to dreadzone101
21 Sep 17 #26
What is the difference between malware and spyware ? Care to define ?
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #27
en.wikipedia.org/wik…are
Spyware can be classed as malware but all malware isn't spyware. Malware is a wide array of different things. Adware and viruses fall under malware. Ad popups and viruses are quite different from something designed to record activity or steal data.
hashman to dreadzone101
21 Sep 17 #30
Dreadzone... Have you not got the reasoning logic of Sam yet?

Spyware can be a malware, so all malware are spyware
Chinese phones can come without b20, so all Chinese phones have no b20
Some chinese manufacturers install bloatware/malware/spyware etc, so all Chinese manufacturer s install bloatware/malware/spyware
Sam is incompetent, so everyone else in this world is incompetent

Lol
dreadzone101 to hashman
21 Sep 17 #31
I think I may have :joy:

- Sam struggles to get signal in London, therefore everyone must get a phone with B20
- UK uses B20 so people who promote non B20 phones are Chinese citizens pretending to be in UK
- Lack of one 4G UK band means the phone is a mini tablet which will only work in China and India but not in UK
- People who post Gearbest deals are commission agents and employees and subjected to Sam's criticism, but it's okay for him to post them
- Sam has an opinion, therefore everyone who disagrees is automatically wrong and he won't accept otherwise
- Sam has personal views/preferences, therefore they must be applicable to everyone else. Anyone who does not abide by these views are brainless, living in the stone age, throwing their money away, not worried about having their details stolen, don't understand the concept of moderation, will get tooth decay, obesity, diabetes and alzheimer's, or cancer unless they use Sam approved cookware. The list goes on and on... :fearful:
sam_of_london to hashman
22 Sep 17 #42
You may say whatever you like but does not change the fact that this phone does not have UK B20 band and full of spyware/malware. Whoever buys it will be buying a lemon. So don't fall for it.
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
22 Sep 17 #44
Yet you still cannot provide any links that support your view that this phone is full of spyware/malware or any proof that the pre-installed LeEco bloatware is actually spyware/malware which is unrelated to vendor installed ROMs. Continuing to state it does not make it true and it does not change the fact there are no incidences of spyware/malware for this phone. If you want people to believe you, instead of seeing you for a biased liar at least provide some proof.

Once again it is highly hypocritical for you to defend your Umidigi deal and disregard people pointing out many incidences of their previous phones being infected. Despite their history with spyware/malware, you'll give them the benefit of the doubt because it's an unreleased phone so the "jury's still out". Yet for a phone that's nearly a year old, with no incidences of spyware/malware, you'll still claim it's full of it, when you cannot provide even one incidence of this being the case.
sam_of_london to dreadzone101
22 Sep 17 #47
You are very good essay writer.
hashman to sam_of_london
22 Sep 17 #48
You are as knowledgeable about phones as Don Quixote was about chivalry

Go back in your hole troll
sam_of_london to hashman
23 Sep 17 #50
Yes that is why Leeco is shutting down and phones on discount because no one wants them . If they were free of spyware , looking at the specs alone , they will be be like other respected Chinese phone companies Huawei , Xiaomi, Lenovo or Oneplus.
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
23 Sep 17 #51
Judging from your previous comments, I'm pretty sure this is what happened. You bought a LeEco phone which comes with LeEco's own apps. Due to being unable to discern the differences between spyware/bloatware/malware, you assumed these LeEco bloatware apps were spyware/malware, therefore proceeded to assume LeEco has pre-installed spyware. You read about removal of these LeEco apps, which lead you to threads about rooting, bootloaders, custom recovery but due to your lack of understanding you just concluded that LeEco sell spyware instead of phones and that all of their phones have spyware. So basically your spyware views are the result of your own incompetence. If only you were able to provide some evidence that suggests otherwise and supports your own claims, it might make you sound even slightly credible.
hashman to sam_of_london
23 Sep 17 #52
'In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that he did not also limit his stupidity.'

Le is a conglomerate raising billions in investor funds

There is no limit to how shameful a person can get and how ego has made you desperately helpless.
sam_of_london to hashman
24 Sep 17 #54
You can promote spyware and malware but I cannot. They cannot even sell their phones directly in this country due to Malware. Even Amazon had to stop selling Blu phones due to Malware . God did not ask you to spread malware to everyone on this forum by promoting hidden malware phones. Do not be evil .
hashman to sam_of_london
24 Sep 17 #56
Yawn

Logorrhea can be treated, you need to get a diagnostic done.
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
24 Sep 17 #57
Your ZTE Axon 7 thread<
Spyware/malware detected on ZTE Axon 7<

Your Umidigi thread<
Spyware/malware detected on multiple Umidigi phones<

Stop making false baseless accusations towards others just because they won't accept your obvious bias which is never accompanied with any proof:
hotukdeals.com/com…516
hashman to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #29
Your incompetency should not result in your assumption that the world is full of idiots! Thank god for ignorance!
mrew42 to sam_of_london
22 Sep 17 #40
Seriously i'd give up on this line of reasoning if I were you
You're digging yourself a deeper hole with every post.
hashman to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #28
Lol

I do not believe the guide suggests you need to root prior to following the suggested steps

You remain misinformed and lack any credibility to comment on this subject
shadey12 to hashman
21 Sep 17 #15
I think Sam's credibility was destroyed by dreadzone in this thread,

hotukdeals.com/dea…e=2
shadey12 to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #10
You don't have this phone Sam, do you?
Why not have a walk down poundland, shake your head and stop quoting same boring lines on every deal that you don't post.
dreadzone101 to sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #21
For someone who's been saying the same thing for months, you'd think at some point you'd have provided links to support your claims. But despite people requesting it, you do not provide any and then continue on with the same comments on the next LeEco thread that gets posted: hotukdeals.com/com…108

I've seen LeEco threads regarding bloatware on official ROM, with owners asking how to remove it because they fear it is spyware. And also problems associated with vendor ROMs. But nothing that links LeEco to installing spyware themselves or that their pre-installed bloatware is actually spyware. I'm fairly certain you're mixing up different scenarios. Feel free to provide links which prove otherwise. The only results I can find when searching for this phone in regards to spyware are people worried of LeEco's own apps being spyware with no confirmation at all, of it being the case. forum.xda-developers.com/le-…389
realdeals to sam_of_london
22 Sep 17 #45
You do know that the X727 is the American version that has Gapps integrated into the OS?
This means that the OS had to be certified by Google, so it will carry the same amount of spyware found on any device that you may wish to say doesn't.


Banking apps can be used on a rooted device and have been for sometime.
First through seemless root , and now with the aid of Magisk.

Further more on the subject of spyware iOS and Google are the 2 biggest with report usage toggles set to on and then hidden away in app menu's.
Siri and Google assistant, always listening features? Very nice!
hashman
21 Sep 17 #6
Ah they finally add NFC
Got the le max 2 and v impressed for the price

Heat from me
Crossbow
21 Sep 17 #7
Unfortunately still on Marshmallow, with no planned update to Nougat (unless you root & install a custom rom if available).
sam_of_london
21 Sep 17 #11
How do you install custom rom without rooting ? Did you get it with unlocked bootloader ?
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