Tiguan 2.0 tdi lease over 2 years in solid paint at this price, with 8k miles per year allowance. advance payment £1792.69 23x £199.19 admin fee £180. Total £6554.06 Not for everyone these deals, But if your looking at this motor cheap deal id say.
All comments (110)
donslibi
30 Aug 17#1
Good price. Works out roughly £275 per month.
ianjury
30 Aug 17#2
Bargain six and a half grand and the end of two years hand it back lovely waste of money !!!!!!
Mada06 to ianjury
30 Aug 17#4
So if you were to buy a car during those 2 years you wouldn't lose money on depreciation? You would also need to pay for car tax, would it have a warranty?
nutterburger to ianjury
30 Aug 17#10
Let me guess... you don't understand the benefits of leasing and you have made these comments before on other leasing deals?
Why comment if you have no experience in it or have any value to add to this 'deal'?
stuellis to ianjury
30 Aug 17#16
I used to pay £3k a year on a rail ticket (burnt money) and still needed a car for weekends. Now I drive to work and get to do it in a new car which I can chop in every 3 years. Far better than being mugged by the rail companies.
Winning to ianjury
30 Aug 17#19
It's always funny to read things like this. I imagine you have never ever lost money on buying a car then? Or have you always bought a car that's 12 years old that surely cannot depreciate any more than £100. These deals are subjective, you cannot vote cold just purely because it is a lease. It's the exact same concept of renting a house - some people cannot afford to own their own house - but yet they rent? That's surely a pure waste of money in your eyes? But I guess you just paid cash for your house. Get a grip and appreciate that different people value different things - I would much rather rent a nice car and have that sat on my drive than say - smoke 20 a day, or drink a bottle of wine each night, or see every football match from my favourite team. It is a good deal compared to other prices out there for the same model - therefore, it is a hot deal for those that this appeals to.
ollie87 to ianjury
30 Aug 17#20
scorryuk
30 Aug 17#3
Or buy it new and watch it lose 7 - 8 K in value in same time and then have to try and sell it /trade it for a decent deal. Cars are all a waste of money to varying degrees. It`s all about trying to manage it.
dush_yant to scorryuk
30 Aug 17#12
Assuming of course that you are buying the car at RRP. You can easily get a £5K rebate when getting a brand new Tiguan offsetting part of the depreciation. You will still lose at least an additional £5K in depreciation though. As you said it's all a matter of how you manage it and what it's worth to you. One could argue it's not worth paying £100 to go to a concert/musical/sports match because at the end of the event you have nothing to show for it where as others would cherish the enjoyment got out of it.
afroylnt to scorryuk
30 Aug 17#18
Most likely buy an ex demo with a few k already knocked off the price and with virtually a full warranty. Right now I think it makes more sense to lease rather than buy a diesel as I feel their second hand value is going to be hit hard...
KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#5
id never buy a lease car again.
I recently gave one back - complete and utter stress
On return everything was scrutinized, every nick, light scratch, kink etc car was even assessed under UV light to see if it had been resprayed! and then i was presented with an 'extras' bill of £549
all that worrying, if some kid might kick a football into it, or some person might key it, or if i accidentally kerb the tire whilst parking etc. . . .
not worth the hassle and stress and anxiety.
dush_yant to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#7
Which leasing company was it from?
LOL_is_stupid to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#8
Who was the lease company (not the broker)? Usually they're not overly bothered unless it's been hacked to pieces and is miles above what you've committed to
pinkmonkey to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#9
It's always worth reading about fair use etc. There is a Govt. Policy that covers this and I would check that whatever lease co. you deal with adheres to the policy.
Mada06 to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#11
It's someone elses car so you have to treat it carefully and with respect. All leases I have had follow the BVRLA fair wear and tear guidelines (http://www.bvrla.co.uk/service/fair-wear-and-tear-guides) so you know in advance what you need to put right.
My last lease needed the alloys refurbished which cost me £120. I knew if I didn't do them they could charge me more. If I was selling a 2 year old car and the alloys were curbed I'd be expecting to negotiate and will probably lose money. A lease isn't any different in that respect.
afroylnt to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#13
Was the extras bill fair in your view and what did it include?
stuellis to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#14
Sounds like a bad experience. I'm on my 2nd lease car and its been super easy and made changing car easy. My current lease is a Focus RS and as its a high performance Ford I like that during the lease all important parts are under warranty and I can hand back before needing to worry. I have the option to buy it out at the end so will see how the car in general is holding up reliability wise on the forums, fortunately I have the modified engine so hopefully wont suffer the cracked block issue.
Besford to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#15
Whereas if you owned it you wouldn't care about the damage? All decent lease companies adhere to a set of very reasonable industry agreed return standards based on fair wear and tear, not damage. Frankly, £549 wouldn't buy much repair anyway: when someone put a car park ding in my car I was quoted £350 for a one panel bodyshop repair if needed (fortunately the 'ding man' did a good job for £50).
There's a certain amount of stress in owning or leasing any decent car. One piece of advice would be not to park next to any tatty people carrier with kids' seats in the back - but too often you can park at the far end of a half empty car park and still some numpty who couldn't care less will find it necessary to park right next to you. Something about your post suggests you might be that inconsiderate person?
118luke to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#17
This 100%. The key issue i have with Lease deals is id be paranoid about it being damaged and left with an expensive repair bill that you HAVE to pay before you hand it back. At least if i bought the car, its my choice whether or not to fork out on the repair bill. Pro-Lease's seem to overlook this fact.
stuellis to 118luke
30 Aug 17#21
If you bought the car outright and wanted to sell it after 3 years you would have to pay any repair bills or accept a reduced sale value of the car to cover the cost of repairs. Not seeing any difference.
118luke to stuellis
30 Aug 17#30
Who's making you sell after 3 years? Too much throwaway consumerism culture these days.
stuellis to 118luke
30 Aug 17#36
If you don't want to replace after 2/3/4 years then don't look at leasing, why even comment on a lease thread. For those who want too its a great option. I drive to work, work bloody hard and my car is my little luxury. I enjoy driving and like something different after a while, if you only want to get from a to b and don't care how then you might not care you are bored of your car as driving doesn't give you any enjoyment. It still costs me less per year than when I worked in London and had to pay £3k a year on rail fair while still needing a car.
m5rcc to 118luke
30 Aug 17#37
The high cost of maintaining the emissions equipment on them as they get older will...
m5rcc to 118luke
30 Aug 17#34
But why would anyone want to buy and own outright a modern diesel car, with all its long-term ownership problems?
118luke to m5rcc
30 Aug 17#38
Not sure how this has turned in a petrol v diesel debate but...
What ownership problems? And before you say DPF/EGR/DMF/Injectors/Turbos etc etc... remember we established before that modern GDI based petrols share the vast majority of components of a modern diesel, therefore reliability is somewhat of a moot point. Even particulate filters are being hinted at on new petrols due to GDI engine particulate emmisions being so high. Diesel engines still are better at long distance and longevity, no matter how you look at it.
Very debatable, considering the poorer MPG you get with Petrols and the higher tax, i can safely say diesels have saved me money over the last decade or so.
m5rcc to 118luke
30 Aug 17#39
There is no debate to be had. Modern diesel maintenance costs far more than petrol. Petrol cars do not have DPFs that clog up every 80-100k miles. A diesel engine has to carry more emissions absorbing kit than a petrol engine and all of this has a finite life. Additionally, the TDI engine in this car is still a belt cam, needing a fresh belt, waterpump and tensioner every four years. Diesel is only viable if you are doing more than 15k miles a year. It wasn't the case in the old days because the fuel offered better engine lubricity than petrol, however, diesels today have to carry complex anti-emissions equipment that relies on the vehicle being driven significant distances to regenerate, a diesel driven only short distances will clog them up.
If you wish to continue debating about it, please feel free to...
cactusbrandy to 118luke
30 Aug 17#35
I don't think they do. I think they consider this carefully and recognise that if they bought or financed a NEW car any other way, they'd probably want to keep it in good condition regardless.
Lease cars cost the same to repair as non-lease cars, so it's largely irrelevant to worry about if you actually have a degree of sensibility when it comes to looking after a car. Which really isn't hard.
CrazyBob to KEEP_IT_TEA
30 Aug 17#33
Who was that with?
pinkmonkey
30 Aug 17#6
Would just like to add that I used this lease co. on a 3 year Hyundai Tucson deal. I was very apprehensive about the whole leasing idea but, I would never be able to afford 24k upfront on a new car! I had loads of questions and Gateway2Lease were very patient and helpful with me. 3 weeks from signing up to delivery of new car. Also, I compared lots of different leasing companies fees/rates and reviews and am happy that this co. were the most competitive
RCUK
30 Aug 17#22
Some people really dont have a clue re leases .... wonder if its just the jealousy of not being able to afford one hence the stupid comments about throwing £6k away whilst they drive a 1989 Nova 1.0, or just a total failure to understand the benefits of leasing.
For those who can afford it - leasing is the most sensible way to have a new car. No depreciation costs, no road tax costs, new car with a warranty so minimal worry. Great way to budget for motoring - esp if you have a maintenance pack too.
As for complaining about a £549 bill, id assume it was wear and tear outside what the BVRLA allow, so why shouldnt they charge you if you have done more damage than you would reasonably be expected to do?
tom_hungston to RCUK
30 Aug 17#25
Why no road tax on the new car?
Sorry me being dumb here
Mada06 to tom_hungston
30 Aug 17#27
The lease company pay the road tax because the v5 is in their name. You get a letter every year to confirm the tax has been paid from the lease company.
tom_hungston to Mada06
30 Aug 17#28
Thanks pal
RCUK to tom_hungston
30 Aug 17#40
all lease deals include road tax as standard
foggy
30 Aug 17#23
Don't argue with the naysayers, you either get it or you don't. To me having a car costs however you do it, from bangernomics to leasing and each comes with its advantages/disadvantages. I couldn't give two hoots about ownership, the registration or the badge but I find the no farting about aspects of a lease suits me.
VW finance are pretty good for returning cars. I had a Golf go back with 2 scratched alloys but were passed as fair wear and tear. A rock fell off the back of a tipper, bounced along the road before tearing a gouge out of the wing - the charge, £26 on return.
linhang90
30 Aug 17#24
Might be cheap to lease. But i'd rather spend more buy the car and make it actual mine
Mada06 to linhang90
30 Aug 17#26
But why? What benefit is there to have the car in your name?
The only thing I can think of is if you wanted to sell it within 2 years. With a lease agreement you are most likely going to pay a penalty to get out of it or have to find someone to take over the agreement.
Opening post
advance payment £1792.69
23x £199.19
admin fee £180.
Total £6554.06
Not for everyone these deals, But if your looking at this motor cheap deal id say.
All comments (110)
Why comment if you have no experience in it or have any value to add to this 'deal'?
As you said it's all a matter of how you manage it and what it's worth to you.
One could argue it's not worth paying £100 to go to a concert/musical/sports match because at the end of the event you have nothing to show for it where as others would cherish the enjoyment got out of it.
I recently gave one back - complete and utter stress
On return everything was scrutinized, every nick, light scratch, kink etc car was even assessed under UV light to see if it had been resprayed!
and then i was presented with an 'extras' bill of £549
all that worrying, if some kid might kick a football into it, or some person might key it, or if i accidentally kerb the tire whilst parking etc. . . .
not worth the hassle and stress and anxiety.
Usually they're not overly bothered unless it's been hacked to pieces and is miles above what you've committed to
My last lease needed the alloys refurbished which cost me £120. I knew if I didn't do them they could charge me more. If I was selling a 2 year old car and the alloys were curbed I'd be expecting to negotiate and will probably lose money. A lease isn't any different in that respect.
There's a certain amount of stress in owning or leasing any decent car. One piece of advice would be not to park next to any tatty people carrier with kids' seats in the back - but too often you can park at the far end of a half empty car park and still some numpty who couldn't care less will find it necessary to park right next to you.
Something about your post suggests you might be that inconsiderate person?
What ownership problems? And before you say DPF/EGR/DMF/Injectors/Turbos etc etc... remember we established before that modern GDI based petrols share the vast majority of components of a modern diesel, therefore reliability is somewhat of a moot point. Even particulate filters are being hinted at on new petrols due to GDI engine particulate emmisions being so high.
Diesel engines still are better at long distance and longevity, no matter how you look at it.
Very debatable, considering the poorer MPG you get with Petrols and the higher tax, i can safely say diesels have saved me money over the last decade or so.
If you wish to continue debating about it, please feel free to...
Lease cars cost the same to repair as non-lease cars, so it's largely irrelevant to worry about if you actually have a degree of sensibility when it comes to looking after a car. Which really isn't hard.
I had loads of questions and Gateway2Lease were very patient and helpful with me. 3 weeks from signing up to delivery of new car.
Also, I compared lots of different leasing companies fees/rates and reviews and am happy that this co. were the most competitive
For those who can afford it - leasing is the most sensible way to have a new car. No depreciation costs, no road tax costs, new car with a warranty so minimal worry. Great way to budget for motoring - esp if you have a maintenance pack too.
As for complaining about a £549 bill, id assume it was wear and tear outside what the BVRLA allow, so why shouldnt they charge you if you have done more damage than you would reasonably be expected to do?
Sorry me being dumb here
VW finance are pretty good for returning cars. I had a Golf go back with 2 scratched alloys but were passed as fair wear and tear. A rock fell off the back of a tipper, bounced along the road before tearing a gouge out of the wing - the charge, £26 on return.
The only thing I can think of is if you wanted to sell it within 2 years. With a lease agreement you are most likely going to pay a penalty to get out of it or have to find someone to take over the agreement.