I've ordered one (free delivery) for £379.99 as they'll go out of stock within a few hours. I'll eBay it to a greedy miner, how ironic. They went OOS on Amazon in under an hour.
Thanks OP
jaydeeuk1 to Fo3
28 Aug 17#9
Maybe they have a cold house?
dan_lesser to jaydeeuk1
28 Aug 17#12
Why do people make things up? Have a check on review sites rather than spreading lies hanandtech.com/sho…/19 GTX1070 under full load 79 degrees Vega 56 under full load 73 degrees
The stock Vega 56 is noisier than the 1070 under load, why not state that instead if you want to have a dig at the Vega. Or the fact is uses 20% more power under load
jaydeeuk1 to dan_lesser
28 Aug 17#13
It uses (a hell of a lot) more power. What do you think that gets converted in to? Squirrel tears?
I have a conspiracy theory that the AMD CEO is a major shareholder in Eon or something.
dan_lesser to jaydeeuk1
28 Aug 17#16
About 20% more under load, yes, that is a lot !! but it doesn't really cost much more ££ per year. AMDs Ryzen uses a lot less power than equivalent Intel, so bang goes that theory.
KITTYBOTS to dan_lesser
28 Aug 17#19
It depends on the game tested,as Vega56 can be just under or just over the power consumption of an RX580,and usually it is compared to the GTX1070 Founders Edition which is one the most efficient GTX1070 cards out there.
Hredknapp
28 Aug 17#4
free sync monitor already ?
southernorth
28 Aug 17#6
The only thing I can really respond with is - U wot m8?
The_Hoff to southernorth
28 Aug 17#7
Reported him for spam.
thrustmaster to The_Hoff
28 Aug 17#26
Reckon he's referencing Bitcoin mining which is the main driving factor behind the consistently high AMD card price and will continue to be for a while longer.
Flemon
28 Aug 17#8
Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than the 1070, which will add up over the years if you're gaming for at least a few hours every day. One comparison I saw put it at around $70 more over 3 years assuming 4 hours a day running at load and average US electricity prices (I think we pay more than them on average). Might not seem like loads, but it's a factor if you're judging price-to-performance.
If I were looking for an upgrade now, it'd be pretty close - I've seen the cheaper 1070s in this price region too (e.g. there was a Zotac one at £344.97 last week). I think the Vega would need to be a bit cheaper or throw in a game code to swing me.
I'm all for people buying them for the sake of competition though! Not a bad price as it is.
dan_lesser to Flemon
28 Aug 17#11
Nothing like $70 extra over 3 years for 4hrs per day. It's a few pounds per year difference. Can you imagine if we used electricity at that rate ! That would suggest it costs around £300 to run a 1070 4hrs per day over 3 years. Don't spread rubbish.
Vega 56 does seem to beat 1070 in most games, it's the Vega 64 which seems to be out of kilter in terms of value.
Scan website just states "call for price" for me
shu123 to dan_lesser
28 Aug 17#22
There was a tech site that undervolted Vega 56 and it had less power consumption and had GTX 1080 level performance. Fishy from AMD
CampGareth to Flemon
28 Aug 17#20
Checking the power consumption maths here, anandtech has total system power draw with the 1070 at 267 watts under furmark, vega 56 at 314 watts. That's a difference of 47W at the wall. 4 hours of play makes for an extra 0.188 kWh power consumption or scaled up to a year that's 68.62 kWh. At 15p/kWh that's £10.29. In the grand scheme of things that's nothing but might matter to someone. Personally I can't wait for solar power and home energy storage batteries to be more of a thing as gaming in the evening would likely use stored power.
GAVINLEWISHUKD to CampGareth
28 Aug 17#23
If you are paying 15p/kWh you should spend less time gaming and more time changing your supplier! :grin:
So for most (gamers) people in gaming situations (not furmark) it's likely to be £7.50 or so. For real people who sadly can't game for 4 hours a day 365 days a year its pretty insignificant.
RedRain to GAVINLEWISHUKD
28 Aug 17#24
Who do you recommend i went on the compear the market and the cheapest was 0.15
GAVINLEWISHUKD to RedRain
28 Aug 17#27
I'm with IRESA and pay 10.9p with a daily charge of 12.72p on their Flex 4 12 month Fixed. It also has no exit fee if that's important to you.
jaydeeuk1
28 Aug 17#10
I refuse to pay this anyway. They're supposed to have 1070 performance at near 1060 prices, more lies from AMD.
siva98 to jaydeeuk1
28 Aug 17#25
When did and ever say that these would be priced similarly too the gtx 1060? It beats the 1070 at a similar price and undervolting can do wonders with this card.
jaydeeuk1 to siva98
28 Aug 17#29
Plenty of 6gb 1060s in the £250-£300+ range. Launch price was supposed to be $399 (was on Amazon us) / £300 give or take 10% shaft tax.
KITTYBOTS
28 Aug 17#14
Techspot have just done a big review with 30 games:
Despite this,the reference Vega56 is slightly faster than both the MSI GTX1070 Gaming X and GTX1070 Founders Edition. It also consumes just under 40W more than the aftermarket MSI card. The aftermarket GTX1070 cards tend to consume more power than the more efficient Founders Edition which is not cheap:
The_Hoff
28 Aug 17#15
Regarding voltage and thermals, the 56 undervolts very well, so forget the headlines numbers unless the review you're reading details this aspect.
It beats the 1070 and at 1440p if you have a freesync monitor (like me) it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for AMD I got bored and bought a 1080Ti instead.
KITTYBOTS to The_Hoff
28 Aug 17#17
If you have GTX1080TI money,its simply better than a Vega64 liquid cooled card at all levels. However,the Vega56 looks in a better position against the GTX1070 as long as the price can be kept reasonable.
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tomshardware.com/rev…tml
I've ordered one (free delivery) for £379.99 as they'll go out of stock within a few hours. I'll eBay it to a greedy miner, how ironic. They went OOS on Amazon in under an hour.
Thanks OP
Have a check on review sites rather than spreading lies
hanandtech.com/sho…/19
GTX1070 under full load 79 degrees
Vega 56 under full load 73 degrees
The stock Vega 56 is noisier than the 1070 under load, why not state that instead if you want to have a dig at the Vega.
Or the fact is uses 20% more power under load
I have a conspiracy theory that the AMD CEO is a major shareholder in Eon or something.
AMDs Ryzen uses a lot less power than equivalent Intel, so bang goes that theory.
If I were looking for an upgrade now, it'd be pretty close - I've seen the cheaper 1070s in this price region too (e.g. there was a Zotac one at £344.97 last week). I think the Vega would need to be a bit cheaper or throw in a game code to swing me.
I'm all for people buying them for the sake of competition though! Not a bad price as it is.
Can you imagine if we used electricity at that rate !
That would suggest it costs around £300 to run a 1070 4hrs per day over 3 years.
Don't spread rubbish.
Vega 56 does seem to beat 1070 in most games, it's the Vega 64 which seems to be out of kilter in terms of value.
Scan website just states "call for price" for me
So for most (gamers) people in gaming situations (not furmark) it's likely to be £7.50 or so. For real people who sadly can't game for 4 hours a day 365 days a year its pretty insignificant.
techspot.com/rev…64/
They compared the Vega56 with the GTX1070 Founders Edition and a very expensive MSI GTX1070 Gaming X which is over £450:
overclockers.co.uk/msi…tml
Even the MSI GTX1070 Gaming which has a lower clockspeed is over £400:
novatech.co.uk/pro…wcB
Despite this,the reference Vega56 is slightly faster than both the MSI GTX1070 Gaming X and GTX1070 Founders Edition. It also consumes just under 40W more than the aftermarket MSI card. The aftermarket GTX1070 cards tend to consume more power than the more efficient Founders Edition which is not cheap:
It beats the 1070 and at 1440p if you have a freesync monitor (like me) it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for AMD I got bored and bought a 1080Ti instead.