Well has AMD finally caught up with Intel. Here is one such example that has plenty of power. It may not blow a 7700k away in games. However for actual productivity the 8c/16t 1700 does very well.
This comes with a Wraith Spire RGB cooler included in price. Which apparently is good enough to let you clock this to about 3.9-4.0 GHz. making it far better value than the higher stock speed 1700X and 1800X.
Might not be a super budget processor but for core and thread counts it can't be beaten for value.
All comments (36)
Oneday77
23 Aug 17#1
The camels don't even have this as the lowest price yet.
shu123
24 Aug 17#2
I think this may be after the Intel 8th gen news new i3 almost on par with i7 7700k, the CPU space is about to get really competitive.
Heat for this deal.
belsibub to shu123
24 Aug 17#3
:wink:
Wait for 8th gen pricing,if you think it's going to be comparable with 7th dream on. If the 8700k is under £399 i'd be surprised.
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vulcanproject to belsibub
24 Aug 17#4
Prepare to be very surprised.
shu123 to belsibub
24 Aug 17#5
Knowing intel they're never cheap :disappointed:
Oneday77 to belsibub
24 Aug 17#9
Well at least I can expect the ability to fit Ryzen successors into my new setup in the future. I'm not a gamer anymore so as long as I can see an improvement in video editing, DVD/Bluray ripping and photo editing I'll be happy. My 2500k doesn't cut it anymore.
The_Hoff
24 Aug 17#6
Ignore the trolls, good price.
powerbrick
24 Aug 17#7
buy it quick before they slap another £100 on top of the price :stuck_out_tongue: AMD are good at that.
mackashworth
24 Aug 17#8
Loving my 1700. Didn't go so good on silicon lottery, though. Settled for 3.6GHz on all cores at stock voltage. (Spent a good few hours trying to get stable 3.7GHz+ with voltages up to 1.4 and ultimately gave up.)
Fantastic CPU that has solved my bottleneck on Battlefield 1 64-player maps. (Upgraded from an i5-3570K.)
I make a lot of videos using Adobe Premiere, where it's a big help, too. (I can actually edit images while simultaneously rendering video, which is killer.)
Horrorwood to mackashworth
24 Aug 17#12
Did you increase the soc voltage too?
mackashworth to Horrorwood
24 Aug 17#16
I don't believe I did...
Got any useful guides out there? I don't think I did that with my i5, either. Hmm!
The_Hoff to mackashworth
24 Aug 17#19
What are your specs? Will find you a guide, even bad chips can hit 3.8-3.9 they just need more voltage, but as the other said there are 5-10 things you can change to influence this.
mackashworth to The_Hoff
24 Aug 17#20
MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon 1700 cooled with Evo 212 16GB G.Skill RAM rated for 3733MHz but stable @ 2800MHz right now (Got this as it was cheaper than other 3000MHz RAM, and they honored it.)
(GTX 1070, bunch of storage, 850W PSU Gold)
Thanks!
The_Hoff to mackashworth
24 Aug 17#22
Ok, the first thing I'd say is that the 212 Evo performs roughly the same as the Wraith OEM cooler (also made by CM) though appreciate personal preference and acoustics play a part, you want a Noctua really to up the ante or an AIO. That'll allow you to push for vCore of 1.39/1.40 (wouldn't go higher) without worrying about temps and/or noise. Sell your wraith and your 212 and get a Noctua.
Your board and your memory should be perfect, G.Skill will be Samsung memory so ideal for OCing. For your board, go read the last 10-15 pages of this thread to get to up speed with settings that users have discovered work and tweak +/- as you see fit with proper monitoring of your thermals (HWmonitor), on your CPU you ideally want to be peaking at 70-75deg under stress, but obviously the lower (voltage) the better.
Drop me a PM if you like once you've read up and I can probably offer some of my own advice (not specific to your board) based on my learnings with the CH6. FWIW I've been running 3925ghz @ 1.38 for the last few months with 3466mhz/C14 memory speeds and all my other primary/secondary timings set low. It took a bit of time, but it's worth while.
Oneday77 to The_Hoff
24 Aug 17#23
All good info. I've gone for the Asus Prime X370 Pro so will use your reults as a target :smile: Also got a Great deal on Corsair Dominator 3466 *GB (2x4GB). With luck I'll see how I get on using that, then grab more when a decent price pops up.
There's a load of information on that forum with people that seemingly spend their lives dedicated to shaving a NS of their memory timings, not my idea of fun...
Let me know by PM if I can help when you're up and running.
mackashworth to The_Hoff
24 Aug 17#26
Thanks for this!
I've bookmarked the thread and will give it a go next weekend when I'll have time to get on that overclock grind!
Daveseans
24 Aug 17#10
Couldn't find similar processor with cooler less than this price. Wait till the price-drop at any special occasions :smiley_cat:
groenleader
24 Aug 17#11
Don't know man, those Duron units were weak.
alanbeenthere
24 Aug 17#13
Without Ryzen Intel would still be pumping out 5% IPC increased 4/4 or 4/8 chips.
Oneday77 to alanbeenthere
24 Aug 17#15
So very true. Intel have been milking us for too long. While I do expect Intel to pull something out the bag. The Blue team can do without my cash for a few years.
Nate1492 to Oneday77
24 Aug 17#17
I hear this attitude all the time, but think about it in another way.
Intel has been pumping out small, non mandatory, incremental upgrades for years while AMD failed repeatedly.
That isn't milking, that is progress in the face of stagnation.
Instead of just always pushing for faster GHz, Intel took time to greatly improve performance per watt.
Look at the 15 watt chips they make, without this progress, there couldn't have been nearly as much progress in the laptop market.
Now with AMD back on board, the benefit to the consumer is indeed good, competition always brings out price reductions, but you'd be remiss to think that Intel is 'milking' anyone.
They are a business, they put a product out that is bought by people, if someone want it, they buy it, if not, they don't.
It's just standard economics, there is no evil intent.
Oneday77 to Nate1492
24 Aug 17#21
I get that in the absence of competition, Intel didn't need to make large strides in performance. Again chasing the lower power consumption is beneficial to everyone.
Where Intel has annoyed me is the lack of continued support for Motherboard Chipsets and sockets. I'm pretty confident that Intel could have delivered most 5% incremental changes without changing sockets so frequently. DDR4 support probably being the biggest exclusion to that. 775 saw lots of revisions and various Q processors fit. Why did 1155 have to change to 1150 so quickly? 1156 to 1155 was understandable with such a change in performance and architecture.
This should be good times for consumers now. I certainly hope so.
Nate1492 to Oneday77
25 Aug 17#31
AMD have changed MOBOs at the same pace. There are tons of features that people want, and they need new chipsets for this.
M.2, USB 3.1, more PCI lanes, faster PCI lanes, just tons of incremental upgrades that wouldn't exist without a socket change.
Intel don't stand to make money on forcing a new socket, that's almost entirely profits for motherboard manufacturers.
It's too restrictive on chip making and technology upgrades to force backward compatability, it would end up costing us more in terms of CPU
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This comes with a Wraith Spire RGB cooler included in price. Which apparently is good enough to let you clock this to about 3.9-4.0 GHz. making it far better value than the higher stock speed 1700X and 1800X.
Might not be a super budget processor but for core and thread counts it can't be beaten for value.
All comments (36)
Heat for this deal.
Wait for 8th gen pricing,if you think it's going to be comparable with 7th dream on.
If the 8700k is under £399 i'd be surprised.
3
I'm not a gamer anymore so as long as I can see an improvement in video editing, DVD/Bluray ripping and photo editing I'll be happy. My 2500k doesn't cut it anymore.
Fantastic CPU that has solved my bottleneck on Battlefield 1 64-player maps. (Upgraded from an i5-3570K.)
I make a lot of videos using Adobe Premiere, where it's a big help, too. (I can actually edit images while simultaneously rendering video, which is killer.)
Got any useful guides out there? I don't think I did that with my i5, either. Hmm!
1700 cooled with Evo 212
16GB G.Skill RAM rated for 3733MHz but stable @ 2800MHz right now (Got this as it was cheaper than other 3000MHz RAM, and they honored it.)
(GTX 1070, bunch of storage, 850W PSU Gold)
Thanks!
Your board and your memory should be perfect, G.Skill will be Samsung memory so ideal for OCing. For your board, go read the last 10-15 pages of this thread to get to up speed with settings that users have discovered work and tweak +/- as you see fit with proper monitoring of your thermals (HWmonitor), on your CPU you ideally want to be peaking at 70-75deg under stress, but obviously the lower (voltage) the better.
overclock.net/t/1…340
Drop me a PM if you like once you've read up and I can probably offer some of my own advice (not specific to your board) based on my learnings with the CH6. FWIW I've been running 3925ghz @ 1.38 for the last few months with 3466mhz/C14 memory speeds and all my other primary/secondary timings set low. It took a bit of time, but it's worth while.
Also got a Great deal on Corsair Dominator 3466 *GB (2x4GB). With luck I'll see how I get on using that, then grab more when a decent price pops up.
There's a load of information on that forum with people that seemingly spend their lives dedicated to shaving a NS of their memory timings, not my idea of fun...
Let me know by PM if I can help when you're up and running.
I've bookmarked the thread and will give it a go next weekend when I'll have time to get on that overclock grind!
While I do expect Intel to pull something out the bag. The Blue team can do without my cash for a few years.
Intel has been pumping out small, non mandatory, incremental upgrades for years while AMD failed repeatedly.
That isn't milking, that is progress in the face of stagnation.
Instead of just always pushing for faster GHz, Intel took time to greatly improve performance per watt.
Look at the 15 watt chips they make, without this progress, there couldn't have been nearly as much progress in the laptop market.
Now with AMD back on board, the benefit to the consumer is indeed good, competition always brings out price reductions, but you'd be remiss to think that Intel is 'milking' anyone.
They are a business, they put a product out that is bought by people, if someone want it, they buy it, if not, they don't.
It's just standard economics, there is no evil intent.
Again chasing the lower power consumption is beneficial to everyone.
Where Intel has annoyed me is the lack of continued support for Motherboard Chipsets and sockets.
I'm pretty confident that Intel could have delivered most 5% incremental changes without changing sockets so frequently. DDR4 support probably being the biggest exclusion to that. 775 saw lots of revisions and various Q processors fit. Why did 1155 have to change to 1150 so quickly? 1156 to 1155 was understandable with such a change in performance and architecture.
This should be good times for consumers now. I certainly hope so.
M.2, USB 3.1, more PCI lanes, faster PCI lanes, just tons of incremental upgrades that wouldn't exist without a socket change.
Intel don't stand to make money on forcing a new socket, that's almost entirely profits for motherboard manufacturers.
It's too restrictive on chip making and technology upgrades to force backward compatability, it would end up costing us more in terms of CPU