Edit: price increased by £5 per month (previously, and advertised as £258.32 per month / £9299.61), but recent quote noted £5 price increase.
Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 DI-D 3 lease.
This is a very low cost lease deal for a 7 seater.
10k miles per year, 36 month lease.
£719.96 inc VAT upfront + £180 inc VAT admin fee.
35x monthly payments of £239.99
Total £9,299.61 over 36m = £258.32 per month
Comes with rear parking sensors, climate control, cruise control, bluetooth.
Not an outstanding car and won't be the best fuel economy but this is a good price for a 7 seater 4x4 with fair performance.
Please post if you find better!
Why lease and not buy? Well: - Assume new cost of this car £25k (list £28k) - Assume value in 3 years 30k miles is £15k (see Autotrader, and assume less for private seller) - Depreciation = £10,000 - Opportunity cost of £25k over 3 years @ 4% pa is ~£3k - Or, if you're borrowing, factor in an extra ~£3k or so for borrowing costs
£10k depreciation + £3,000 finance cost / 36m = £361 per month, which is a lot more than £258.32 per month.
Edit: price has gone up by £5 per month based on a quote I have received.
New totals: £736.14 upfront + £180 admin fee, 35x £245.38 = £9504.44 total / £264.01 per month all in.
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monkeyhanger75 to joeleverson
3 Jul 1717#7
Maths.
joeleverson
3 Jul 178#2
Voting hot just for the math
KnightInd2000
4 Jul 176#27
Why is it only car deals that people on here say "you can get one cheaper second hand"?
Why not vote a new mattress cold because you got one cheaper second hand? Or Underpants or Toothbrushes or, well, everything! Comparing new to second hand on a deal site doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Bitbotbang
3 Jul 176#10
Why don't you just buy a car ffs??? I've got a Metro that is still going strong after more than 14 years! PCP is pure MUGGERY imo!
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tonerodgers
3 Jul 17#1
Nothing spectacular, but a good work horse off road, towing etc and around 50mpg, which is 10mpg better than many of its rivals.
I get 35mpg on average in mine. Sometimes get above 40 but rarely.
joeleverson
3 Jul 178#2
Voting hot just for the math
monkeyhanger75 to joeleverson
3 Jul 1717#7
Maths.
mkara
3 Jul 17#3
Saw this earlier on today. Thought it's a smashing deal.
crumpetman
3 Jul 171#4
I'd like to know where you can get 4% pa on £25k
damcnaught to crumpetman
3 Jul 171#5
Look up various p2p lending platforms for starters, e.g. Zopa or one of various property based platforms.
Common.Sense to crumpetman
3 Jul 17#12
Open a fixed rate bond in the UK with Bank of Baroda in joint name. Fund it from a single name via a cheque and use the account as the nominated account. On maturity they will send funds to the nominated account in joint name (like idiots) which will be rejected. Bank of Baroda will say its not their problem and they have discharged their obligations. They will then insist the second account holder gives permission for funds to go to a single account, which is not necessary as your original form gave authority. Refuse and insist on repayment. When they refuse, go to the Financial Ombudsman and an claim 8% interest (statutory court interest) for late payment. This will take at least one month. Let them drag it out as you get 8% interest. The Ombudsman agreed with me and awarded 8% interest on the late period. This worked out 4% interest in total! May be a little less. Remember, if a bank has over 25 complaints in a quarter the Ombudsman charges them around £600 to handle the complaint. Play the game!
Such an incompetent bank with misandric attitudes from a female manager.
4% is also available on peer to peer rates.
TheVeryMan
3 Jul 171#6
Heat for the - Why lease and not buy? Think my next will be a lease, same for Mrs.
damcnaught to TheVeryMan
3 Jul 17#9
Leasing does often work out better, but it's always worth checking for your own circumstances and the specific deal you find.
Some lease deals are no better, or even worse, than borrowing money to buy a car. But good lease deals do seem like the lowest cost way of owning a new or nearly new car.
xigent to TheVeryMan
4 Jul 172#13
Leasing the Mrs.? She wont like that, especially when the lease is up and she has to go back.
Bitbotbang
3 Jul 176#10
Why don't you just buy a car ffs??? I've got a Metro that is still going strong after more than 14 years! PCP is pure MUGGERY imo!
Rickardo to Bitbotbang
3 Jul 172#11
This is not PCP, but PCH. Each finance option will have its own benefits for different people. A metro won't fit my family of 6 anyway.
This gets heat from me as 7 seaters usually pricey on lease deals.
Rusty82 to Bitbotbang
4 Jul 17#32
I think we know who the mug is here.... (annoyed)
MrSweeney to Bitbotbang
5 Jul 172#53
Buying cars for cash (mainly we're talking cars £20k and above not sh*tty 14 year old metro's worth 2 bob) and then leaving that depreciating asset to sit on your drive, earning 0% whilst interest rates are on the floor is a MUG's game. We're in a borrowers market right now, not a savers market clearly.
Even a cautious, risk adverse investor can earn a modest 5-8% return on money at the moment (then add compound interest to that and it's even more). That money can easily be borrowed at 0-2% right now so with a bit of simple maths 5 - 0= 5% earnings or 8 - 2= 6% earnings.
Why would you turn down free money? If banks don't want to give you anything for saving your money with them, then take their money cheap and use it elsewhere to make money out of it! It requires a bit more thought and creativity than "ok honey which savings account shall we open to put this cheap borrowed money into?"
Borrowing on cars and leasing in Britain has this bizarre "old fashioned British values" stigma attached to it by some, "I don't buy anything I can't *afford*". It's total poppycock! Borrowing also has a bad rep because plenty of people go way beyond their means and allow it to get out of control.
Generally speaking if you can't understand the concept of borrowing money/assets cheap (RESPONSIBLY!) to make more money elsewhere rather than having it sit on your driveway earning zilch, nada, sweet FA, then you will always drive a 14 year old ageing Metro. "Ignorance is bliss" for some I guess....
tonerodgers
4 Jul 17#14
I get around 54mpg from mine, however my journey is mainly motorway and I am never in a rush.
iibdii
4 Jul 17#15
£3100 a year seems a lot. for a Q7 may be alright but ....
grand duster is coming this year with 7 seats and will be under 10k so u would probably be able to lease that for less than half of that
damcnaught to iibdii
4 Jul 173#17
If £3100 / year sounds like a lot, please show other deals for similar cars (7 seaters) at a lower cost.
From a quick search, a fair spec 4x4 diesel duster already costs more to lease than this deal, so I doubt the 7 seater will cost less.
Even if it does, it's not available now, and may not be as good a car.
Leasing a Q7 costs around £7k per year, so you're only out by a little over 100%.
I'd recommend looking at car leasing web sites to get an idea of what is a good deal, and what isn't.
Opening post
Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 DI-D 3 lease.
This is a very low cost lease deal for a 7 seater.
10k miles per year, 36 month lease.
£719.96 inc VAT upfront + £180 inc VAT admin fee.
35x monthly payments of £239.99
Total £9,299.61 over 36m = £258.32 per month
Comes with rear parking sensors, climate control, cruise control, bluetooth.
Not an outstanding car and won't be the best fuel economy but this is a good price for a 7 seater 4x4 with fair performance.
Please post if you find better!
Why lease and not buy? Well:
- Assume new cost of this car £25k (list £28k)
- Assume value in 3 years 30k miles is £15k (see Autotrader, and assume less for private seller)
- Depreciation = £10,000
- Opportunity cost of £25k over 3 years @ 4% pa is ~£3k
- Or, if you're borrowing, factor in an extra ~£3k or so for borrowing costs
£10k depreciation + £3,000 finance cost / 36m = £361 per month, which is a lot more than £258.32 per month.
Edit: price has gone up by £5 per month based on a quote I have received.
New totals: £736.14 upfront + £180 admin fee, 35x £245.38 = £9504.44 total / £264.01 per month all in.
Top comments
Why not vote a new mattress cold because you got one cheaper second hand? Or Underpants or Toothbrushes or, well, everything! Comparing new to second hand on a deal site doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
All comments (63)
Such an incompetent bank with misandric attitudes from a female manager.
4% is also available on peer to peer rates.
Some lease deals are no better, or even worse, than borrowing money to buy a car. But good lease deals do seem like the lowest cost way of owning a new or nearly new car.
This gets heat from me as 7 seaters usually pricey on lease deals.
Even a cautious, risk adverse investor can earn a modest 5-8% return on money at the moment (then add compound interest to that and it's even more). That money can easily be borrowed at 0-2% right now so with a bit of simple maths 5 - 0= 5% earnings or 8 - 2= 6% earnings.
Why would you turn down free money? If banks don't want to give you anything for saving your money with them, then take their money cheap and use it elsewhere to make money out of it! It requires a bit more thought and creativity than "ok honey which savings account shall we open to put this cheap borrowed money into?"
Borrowing on cars and leasing in Britain has this bizarre "old fashioned British values" stigma attached to it by some, "I don't buy anything I can't *afford*". It's total poppycock! Borrowing also has a bad rep because plenty of people go way beyond their means and allow it to get out of control.
Generally speaking if you can't understand the concept of borrowing money/assets cheap (RESPONSIBLY!) to make more money elsewhere rather than having it sit on your driveway earning zilch, nada, sweet FA, then you will always drive a 14 year old ageing Metro. "Ignorance is bliss" for some I guess....
grand duster is coming this year with 7 seats and will be under 10k so u would probably be able to lease that for less than half of that
From a quick search, a fair spec 4x4 diesel duster already costs more to lease than this deal, so I doubt the 7 seater will cost less.
Even if it does, it's not available now, and may not be as good a car.
Leasing a Q7 costs around £7k per year, so you're only out by a little over 100%.
I'd recommend looking at car leasing web sites to get an idea of what is a good deal, and what isn't.