This is a Smart Thermostat which works with all (fairly) modern boilers with volt-free switching, and a much cheaper alternative to the Nest 3 (almost half price) and Hive 2, and performs the same functions. I have had this for 3 months (self-install) on my 12 year old Ariston combi boiler and has performed brilliantly so far. The system is very simple, comprising of the thermostat unit and a mains-powered relay which connects wirelessly to your router.
This is the lowest price this has been at Amazon (see the three camels in first post), and possibly the lowest price brand-new anywhere in the UK - I couldn't find it lower anywhere else.
Amongst the nifty features of this system is full voice control with Siri or Alexa, and geofencing via IFTTT (If This Then That). You can install the system in one of two ways which provides greater flexibility than most of the other Smart thermostats: 1. Replace the wired thermostat on the wall, with the Netatmo switching the boiler directly, and the relay plugged in to a plug point as a simple wireless bridge, or 2. Use the Netatmo unit as a mobile unit powered by batteries with the relay taking over the boiler control - in this case you'd use the provided two sets of removable wires to connect the relay directly to the 240V boiler power and volt free switching terminals. Either system allows full remote control functionality via internet-connected devices. I did the latter installation and can take the thermostat with me around the house - as the thermostat is powered by two AA batteries and importantly, has an e-ink display, the batteries last for 6 months plus (unlike the Nest unit which needs to be plugged in on its mobile stand hence is not truly mobile). There is no router dongle like Hive - the relay interfaces directly with your router.
The Netatmo app on iOS and Android gives you full remote control and programming functionality, and detailed thermal analysis of your home. The 'learning mode' is pretty good as well. I use IFTTT for geofencing (boiler switches off if I'm 2 miles from home, comes back when I re-enter that radius): https://ifttt.com/netatmo_thermostat.
All in all, I've been very satisfied with the performance of this thermostat. The app works well with both WiFi and 3G/4G on Apple and Android devices, the signal has not dropped once during the three months I've had it, and it appears to re-connect seamlessly whenever the router is powercycled.
From the blurb:
37% less energy to heat your home. Save £312 a year on average*. Control your heating remotely from your smartphone, tablet or computer, or directly on the Thermostat. Control your Thermostat with your voice simply using Siri on iPhone/iPad or Alexa on Amazon Echo. Smart heating: enjoy better home comfort with the Auto-Adapt and Auto-Care functions. Unique design by Philippe Starck. 4 colours to choose from to suit your home interiors. Compatible with gas, oil or wood-fired boilers and heat pumps. Compatible with iOS, Android and Windows Phone. (*average savings for a conventional 1076 sq ft British house with a gas boiler.)
All comments (40)
hcc27
7 Jun 17#1
3x Camels:
rvcshart
7 Jun 17#2
So you need a truly mobile thermostat just to get lost/lay about?
Isn't the point every device, phone, tablet, pc via web interface etc is a thermostat?
hcc27
7 Jun 17#3
[quote=rvcshart]So you need a truly mobile thermostat just to get lost/lay about?
Isn't the point every device, phone, tablet, pc via web interface etc
You don't have to install it that way. Yes you can use the mobile interface with this fixed to the wall, but you are then controlling the temperature of the room it is fixed iin which may end up significantly warmer than needed by the time the temperature in the room you're in reaches your desired temperature. A multi zone system is the best solution to this, but this is a pretty good alternative. I've never lost the thermostat but that might just be me - we only take it upstairs for the night and bring it down in the morning.
I also find there are cost savings in keeping the thermostat in the room you're in, easily verifiable with the copious stats available on the Netatmo Web interface.
Searcher2
7 Jun 17#4
The OPs statement that this is almost half the price of the Hive isn't true at the moment as the model 1 of the Hive is currently £60 at Toolstation
Granted the Netatmo may look nicer and have other features. I had looked at it but, at the time (a couple of years ago), I was put off by not being able to contact their customer services by telephone. This may have changed.
But a good price for either
TylerDurdenUK
7 Jun 17#5
I have one, it's a very easy self install if replacing an existing wall thermostat (mine was 2 wires) only very minor issue for me is that you can't set it to away mode via the amazon echo, great for changing temp via the echo though.
Bully
7 Jun 17#6
Have this last 6 months, got it for £99 fitted by PowerNI. Working very well via app.Not expecting to save too much money (linked to oil boiler) but purchased more for the convenience especially when away from home. Great price here. Heat added.
philipgregson58 to Bully
7 Jun 17#9
You might be surprised, it also takes account of local outside temperature (if you leave it alone) and let it control as intended) so adjusts schedule based on your house/external temps.
ilikewatch
7 Jun 17#7
Great product, dire customer service from Netatmo - luckily Amazon replaced mine even though it was over 12 months old when Netatmo couldn't resolve it's connectivity issues.
philipgregson58 to ilikewatch
7 Jun 17#8
Surprised at that comment,but dont disbelieve you. I got this when it was on offer at John Lewis, only just installed, couldn't separate the backplate from the boiler module, emailed them with query, replied next day. I think it is a cracking product, and good value at this price. Just bought the Hive on offer fro a mate, know which I prefer aesthetically though.
b1g1an
7 Jun 17#10
This is just for heating, doesn't control water too if you have that type of system like you can with Hive.
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Opening post
This is the lowest price this has been at Amazon (see the three camels in first post), and possibly the lowest price brand-new anywhere in the UK - I couldn't find it lower anywhere else.
Amongst the nifty features of this system is full voice control with Siri or Alexa, and geofencing via IFTTT (If This Then That). You can install the system in one of two ways which provides greater flexibility than most of the other Smart thermostats:
1. Replace the wired thermostat on the wall, with the Netatmo switching the boiler directly, and the relay plugged in to a plug point as a simple wireless bridge, or
2. Use the Netatmo unit as a mobile unit powered by batteries with the relay taking over the boiler control - in this case you'd use the provided two sets of removable wires to connect the relay directly to the 240V boiler power and volt free switching terminals.
Either system allows full remote control functionality via internet-connected devices.
I did the latter installation and can take the thermostat with me around the house - as the thermostat is powered by two AA batteries and importantly, has an e-ink display, the batteries last for 6 months plus (unlike the Nest unit which needs to be plugged in on its mobile stand hence is not truly mobile). There is no router dongle like Hive - the relay interfaces directly with your router.
The Netatmo app on iOS and Android gives you full remote control and programming functionality, and detailed thermal analysis of your home. The 'learning mode' is pretty good as well. I use IFTTT for geofencing (boiler switches off if I'm 2 miles from home, comes back when I re-enter that radius): https://ifttt.com/netatmo_thermostat.
All in all, I've been very satisfied with the performance of this thermostat. The app works well with both WiFi and 3G/4G on Apple and Android devices, the signal has not dropped once during the three months I've had it, and it appears to re-connect seamlessly whenever the router is powercycled.
From the blurb:
37% less energy to heat your home. Save £312 a year on average*.
Control your heating remotely from your smartphone, tablet or computer, or directly on the Thermostat.
Control your Thermostat with your voice simply using Siri on iPhone/iPad or Alexa on Amazon Echo.
Smart heating: enjoy better home comfort with the Auto-Adapt and Auto-Care functions.
Unique design by Philippe Starck. 4 colours to choose from to suit your home interiors.
Compatible with gas, oil or wood-fired boilers and heat pumps.
Compatible with iOS, Android and Windows Phone.
(*average savings for a conventional 1076 sq ft British house with a gas boiler.)
All comments (40)
Isn't the point every device, phone, tablet, pc via web interface etc is a thermostat?
Isn't the point every device, phone, tablet, pc via web interface etc
You don't have to install it that way. Yes you can use the mobile interface with this fixed to the wall, but you are then controlling the temperature of the room it is fixed iin which may end up significantly warmer than needed by the time the temperature in the room you're in reaches your desired temperature. A multi zone system is the best solution to this, but this is a pretty good alternative. I've never lost the thermostat but that might just be me - we only take it upstairs for the night and bring it down in the morning.
I also find there are cost savings in keeping the thermostat in the room you're in, easily verifiable with the copious stats available on the Netatmo Web interface.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hive-1-smart-heating-control-thermostat-60-toolstation-2702460
Granted the Netatmo may look nicer and have other features. I had looked at it but, at the time (a couple of years ago), I was put off by not being able to contact their customer services by telephone. This may have changed.
But a good price for either