There may be a more stupid comment somewhere here but I've not seen it yet.
Crossbow
17 Apr 176#3
I wish all TVs had Ambilight or something equivalent.
Mr.No to verysleepy
17 Apr 176#5
Yet you'll post deals for 30% off cheese? (you could buy a lot of cheese if you sold one of these)
FoxForce5 to Dokko
17 Apr 173#22
You're mixing up response time with input lag.
Input lag is the time it takes a signal to reach the screen. This is important for gaming. Anything under 50ms is adequate for most people though.
Response time is how long it takes the pixels on the screen to change colour. This effects the 'blur' you so often see on cheap sets.
However response time is highly unreliable as manufacturers cheat by using different criteria. Some will do it 'properly' & measure the time it takes to change from white to black, others will instead measure the time it takes to change a grey pixel to grey again. It's like inventing a criteria called 'acceleration time' then measuring the time it takes one car to do 0-60 & one car to do 15-45 & comparing them.
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Dj.CUE
17 Apr 173#1
TVs deprecate so quickly but when you buy a TV you rarely change it before it is 5 years old. It is worth buying last years model for 50% off, if you are that fussed you could change it every 3 years and still save money!
verysleepy
17 Apr 171#2
Wouldn't take a Philips if it was free
MisterSkinflint to verysleepy
17 Apr 1728#4
There may be a more stupid comment somewhere here but I've not seen it yet.
Mr.No to verysleepy
17 Apr 176#5
Yet you'll post deals for 30% off cheese? (you could buy a lot of cheese if you sold one of these)
ezzer72 to verysleepy
17 Apr 17#13
It's a lot of money for a 'second division' brand TV.
jaydeeuk1 to verysleepy
17 Apr 17#18
The new Philips 901f OLED set is one of, if not the best consumer sets you can buy right now.
Crossbow
17 Apr 176#3
I wish all TVs had Ambilight or something equivalent.
Dokko
17 Apr 17#6
Is 38ms lag good these days? Sure we were down to 5ms when I bought my last display.
cheapskate25 to Dokko
17 Apr 172#15
I think below 50ms is good enough for all but the most demanding of gamers, the 5ms would be response time between pixels changing colour, input lag is the time between the source creating an image and it been displayed on-screen.
FoxForce5 to Dokko
17 Apr 173#22
You're mixing up response time with input lag.
Input lag is the time it takes a signal to reach the screen. This is important for gaming. Anything under 50ms is adequate for most people though.
Response time is how long it takes the pixels on the screen to change colour. This effects the 'blur' you so often see on cheap sets.
However response time is highly unreliable as manufacturers cheat by using different criteria. Some will do it 'properly' & measure the time it takes to change from white to black, others will instead measure the time it takes to change a grey pixel to grey again. It's like inventing a criteria called 'acceleration time' then measuring the time it takes one car to do 0-60 & one car to do 15-45 & comparing them.
jamez002
17 Apr 173#7
I Love Ambilight. When you turn it off it feels lifeless and boring
Towner
17 Apr 171#8
Philips used to make excellent TV's, but i am sure they are made/developed by someone else now, and no, it's not vestel!!
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Opening post
It's amazing how these big, high end HDR TVs are dropping in price, this is the same price as the refurbished 65" DX902 but brand new.
HDTV Test were impressed when they reviewed it:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/65pus7601-201610294376.htm
Also includes Android TV and Ambilight.
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Input lag is the time it takes a signal to reach the screen. This is important for gaming. Anything under 50ms is adequate for most people though.
Response time is how long it takes the pixels on the screen to change colour. This effects the 'blur' you so often see on cheap sets.
However response time is highly unreliable as manufacturers cheat by using different criteria. Some will do it 'properly' & measure the time it takes to change from white to black, others will instead measure the time it takes to change a grey pixel to grey again. It's like inventing a criteria called 'acceleration time' then measuring the time it takes one car to do 0-60 & one car to do 15-45 & comparing them.
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Input lag is the time it takes a signal to reach the screen. This is important for gaming. Anything under 50ms is adequate for most people though.
Response time is how long it takes the pixels on the screen to change colour. This effects the 'blur' you so often see on cheap sets.
However response time is highly unreliable as manufacturers cheat by using different criteria. Some will do it 'properly' & measure the time it takes to change from white to black, others will instead measure the time it takes to change a grey pixel to grey again. It's like inventing a criteria called 'acceleration time' then measuring the time it takes one car to do 0-60 & one car to do 15-45 & comparing them.
https://www.whathifi.com/news/philips-and-tp-vision-agree-joint-venture-tv-division