A good price considering it comes with the keyboard and 1 year of Office 365, this comes to 1,283.98 on the Microsoft store at the moment. Don't forget quidco.
Scroll down on the page to see the deal for £768 with McAfee, which I highly advise you to avoid at all costs. Windows 10 includes defender which is better than Mcafee, and free.
There is also a bundle for 748.99 if you dont want Office.
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Fleabum to CriticalObserver
9 Mar 179#16
I can browse the web fine on a 1GB Windows tablet, you must be doing something wrong. :wink:
Regards
Flea
halap3n0 to M0nk3h
9 Mar 177#5
Good spot, no one wants mcafee!
halap3n0 to tomgwood
9 Mar 176#11
Most devices are more expensive than equivalent from last year, blame brexit or weak pound.
BrianM
9 Mar 176#7
That's meaningless! IOS is not a general purpose operating system and it's Apps are optimized for lower amounts of memory! A Surface Pro can run identical software to a PC (in principle!)
Latest comments (52)
bandit
13 Mar 17#52
Cant see the offer now, has it finished?
Mikro
13 Mar 17#51
Hey all. I've seen few comments here with people who own one of these or an earlier version. Could you tell me what the pen is like with them? I mean in real terms, not the marketing patter. Does it work well, would it be feasible to use it instead of a dedicated gfx tablet? In Photoshop or Affinity or similar? Or is it basically a handwriting tool?
Thanks in advance!.
afroylnt
12 Mar 17#50
I agree that 4GB is poor for the price; I chew through memory when using firefox with allot of tabs open.
idturner
11 Mar 17#49
Have one for work. Don't want to sound ungrateful, but why all the fuss? And don't get me started on the Windows Store!
Fleabum
11 Mar 17#48
So why would you use Chrome then? /facepalm
Using maps as an example, that's like saying you need to get somewhere in a hurry and have two options, a quick way and a slow way. You'll take the slow way then complain when your late...
As I said previous, if you can't browse the Internet on a 1GB tablet, the problem isn't the tablet.
Regards
Flea
Bertz99
11 Mar 17#47
Not bad you got 2014 standard onto 4GB - just recommendations at 2016 Microsoft give make it little less feasible and of course had twigged you couldn't be using the advanced features such as reporting etc on there :smiley:
Like you if buying for wife 4gb would be fine for her use and in situation with full connectivity situations using as a client is fine. Although, as a portable device, in remote locations situations (not that I would ever have been sat in front of a swimming pool working) I find having the better specified version enables me to have better contingency especially with hyper-v on offer.
jaydeeuk1
11 Mar 171#46
SQL 2014 standard. I have a couple of 3gb MDF sized databases, some tables with several million rows. I imagine if I did some huge inner join I might run have issues on 4gb, but I have a dedicated server for testing large queries.
ashraf86uk
11 Mar 17#45
People worry about ram, these computers have flash storage so the os is optimised to switch between ram and flash, I personally don't have issues with 2gb of ram in my laptop
jaydeeuk1
10 Mar 171#32
Right now I'm driving 3 monitors, have dreamweaver, SQL server, logmein, IIS, chrome with several tabs and outlook open and I'm using 3.3gb of memory.
Got this for the wife before xmas (for a lot less) and its spot on. If you're running in to limitations on 4gb you've bought the wrong kit anyway.
BrianM to jaydeeuk1
10 Mar 171#35
I would never buy a Windows laptop with less than 8Gb (and they can be expanded to, at least , 16Gb normally) so I fail to see why the Surface Pro should be in any different!
Bertz99 to jaydeeuk1
11 Mar 17#44
Is that SQL Server 2016 Express Edition or an earlier version?
ZapGod
10 Mar 17#43
I have used one since vista. I have an iphone, so I am not an Apple hater. Just not such a big fan boi as you is all.........obvs.
captainbeaky
10 Mar 17#42
Nope. Use Windows everyday.
charleaward81
10 Mar 17#41
ibnMuhammad_
10 Mar 17#40
Erm, try opening Google Maps, and then browse around using StreetView, while having a few more tabs open, and let's see how that 1gb copes then :wink:
Especially with Chrome, which is generally the worst of all browsers for mem usage.
Incognitoso
10 Mar 17#34
Hmm all these windows tablet - touch etc ....
Windows 10 need more years to be proper tablet operating system + not many apps you have
Windows 10 can be super fast operating system, but if you do not have any apps to offer The all point to have touch is pointless
Android 10 times better - I will be pre-order Galaxy Tab S3 on 17 March
Why android than Surface 4 ?
1 Cheaper
2 Can do same things as surface ( Play video ; Surf Web , Play Games , run MS Office , Some basic Photo editing apps )
3 O Yes you right I can not run Adobe Photo shop on android and other x64 software . But I have 6 "12" core 32 GB PC with GTX 1070 27 Inch Dell Monitor Where is my work on 27 inch is pleasure , lot of power from CPU and GPU
I can Imagine me working on surface 4 with adobe premier how slow it will be Limited storage 4 GB of ram 2 Cores CPU and integrated GPU What games you can play ?? 720p with super low details
4 I can keep in one hand Where Surface need to place on the desk etc ...
5 Battery Life Android wins
6 Software Optimized for touch on android where Windows 10 Half touch / half mouse
Im not saying that Android will replace your PC no I have Destop PC where is all my works done . I can imagine some student do not have options to have Desktop PC so they need something small
If I will be a student I will be getting min 13.3 or 14 Inch Laptop and tablet
captainbeaky to Incognitoso
10 Mar 171#39
All very interesting but you forget the iPad - if you want a premium tablet. Just saying.
BrianM
10 Mar 17#38
Reviews of Windows 10, years of experience....!!!!
Of course this is using a laptop as a "desktop replacement" with (frequently) a full sized monitor and keyboard. Perhaps if a Surface Pro is typically used more like and iPad then 4Gb might be mostly OK.
ZapGod
9 Mar 171#20
This is a fabulous device. I wish I could justify it.
I will never buy an Apple mac again. Microsoft keeps knocking it out of the park for me these days.
Windows 10 is awesome as well.
ezzer72 to ZapGod
10 Mar 17#37
Haha, never used a Mac, obvs.
ezzer72
10 Mar 17#36
Apart from 8 is a higher number than 4, why?
Dancc
10 Mar 17#33
These really are incredible bits of kit and such a pleasure to use.
Only thing that prevents it achieving perfect status is the relatively poor battery life.
But very much worth the money. (I have the 8GB version)
RickPC
10 Mar 17#29
Seems a lot of money for what your getting?
Houstieboy to RickPC
10 Mar 173#31
br1bri
10 Mar 17#30
Was 695 in December without office
gazm2k5
10 Mar 17#28
I've been looking thoroughly for a "2-in-1" laptop for work.
The surface SP4 is generally the best, but has a hefty premium on it. 4GB of RAM is under my minimum, I use almost 4GB just browsing, I'd like a bit of headroom for the future.
Also SP4 is a bit dated, no USB-C port like all the other "competitiors" (read: copy cats). SP5 will be out soon, so I'll wait to see what that is like. If it's not good, I think I'll go for the Acer Switch 12 Alpha, cheaper and feature rich. Slightly less high quality than the SP4, but I'll happily save £200-£300 for a less premium feel.
MrPuddington
10 Mar 17#27
They only ever have deals on the lowest specs. Which is ridiculous, given that doubling the RAM and SSD usually already costs an arm and a leg (300 pounds for something that is worth maybe 50), but now the difference is even bigger.
Sorry, I still cannot recommend this machine, because the specs are marginal.
maciejkopec08
10 Mar 171#25
Lol are people still paying this much for such an under-spec'd item?
pnaylor39 to maciejkopec08
10 Mar 17#26
Under spec???. If your after a gaming machine you're on wrong thread. given its size weight and portability it's specs more than adequate. I've got sp3 pro and at time paid same price without keyboard. it's great. running several spreadsheets simultaneously without issue which can't say same for alot of PC's / laptop's used in past. Hot for me
CriticalObserver
9 Mar 174#13
4GB of RAM on what's essentially a high-end laptop running Windows is anything but "fine" Anno Domini 2017; you can saturate the 4GB by just browsing the web, somewhat depending on the browser.
Fleabum to CriticalObserver
9 Mar 179#16
I can browse the web fine on a 1GB Windows tablet, you must be doing something wrong. :wink:
Regards
Flea
amour3k to CriticalObserver
9 Mar 17#24
That's a powerful valid argument that ...
Good point. :-)
mcrobbj
9 Mar 17#23
OK bit a problem with phone, 8GB of RAM, 256 SSD and pen for £869
markchambers
9 Mar 17#22
cheers, bought for 729 and got the pen off amazon for £39
atangy
9 Mar 17#21
is the pen included in the bundle?
nrdsrfr
9 Mar 171#19
Surface pro 5 is rumoured to be released soon. FYI this is likely why the deals
fanpages
9 Mar 17#18
OK. Thanks for the tip.
mcrobbj
9 Mar 17#17
Or use ibood and get double the R and sad, along with then pen for 869. This is supposed to be a power user device so agree with others that 8gb is a must.
eternald
9 Mar 17#15
These are great, i just cant justify moving up, or sideways from my pro 3 though. Just bought the pro 4 keyboard instead, heat added.
heeljames
9 Mar 171#14
Ram isn't a huge issue unless you're a power user. Battery life however is not great.
vardx
9 Mar 17#12
You pay for the form factor.
4gb ram is absolutely fine for most tasks. You should know if you require more.
I've got the 8gb SP4 and its absolutely fantastic. Best device I've owned. Battery could always be better, and that's the only thing I'd like to see improved.
tomgwood
9 Mar 173#8
4gb of ram? Not brilliant bearing in mind the price
captainbeaky to tomgwood
9 Mar 171#10
The backlight bleed on the one I had wasn't brilliant either.
halap3n0 to tomgwood
9 Mar 176#11
Most devices are more expensive than equivalent from last year, blame brexit or weak pound.
Schumarvel
9 Mar 173#9
Before saying 4gb is not enough. Go and try it you nay be surprised. Excellent bits of kit as far as I'm concerned. Yes I do own one.
BrianM
9 Mar 176#7
That's meaningless! IOS is not a general purpose operating system and it's Apps are optimized for lower amounts of memory! A Surface Pro can run identical software to a PC (in principle!)
ezzer72
9 Mar 175#6
It's got more than a more expensive iPhone 7/plus
M0nk3h
9 Mar 171#4
The link goes to the bundle with McAfee, if you wanted to save a tenner or so, here's just the typecover, office 365 and i5 Surface Pro
4GB RAM is disappointing for a device at this price point.
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Scroll down on the page to see the deal for £768 with McAfee, which I highly advise you to avoid at all costs. Windows 10 includes defender which is better than Mcafee, and free.
There is also a bundle for 748.99 if you dont want Office.
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Flea
Latest comments (52)
Thanks in advance!.
Using maps as an example, that's like saying you need to get somewhere in a hurry and have two options, a quick way and a slow way. You'll take the slow way then complain when your late...
As I said previous, if you can't browse the Internet on a 1GB tablet, the problem isn't the tablet.
Regards
Flea
Like you if buying for wife 4gb would be fine for her use and in situation with full connectivity situations using as a client is fine. Although, as a portable device, in remote locations situations (not that I would ever have been sat in front of a swimming pool working) I find having the better specified version enables me to have better contingency especially with hyper-v on offer.
Got this for the wife before xmas (for a lot less) and its spot on. If you're running in to limitations on 4gb you've bought the wrong kit anyway.
Especially with Chrome, which is generally the worst of all browsers for mem usage.
Windows 10 need more years to be proper tablet operating system + not many apps you have
Windows 10 can be super fast operating system, but if you do not have any apps to offer The all point to have touch is pointless
Android 10 times better - I will be pre-order Galaxy Tab S3 on 17 March
Why android than Surface 4 ?
1 Cheaper
2 Can do same things as surface ( Play video ; Surf Web , Play Games , run MS Office , Some basic Photo editing apps )
3 O Yes you right I can not run Adobe Photo shop on android and other x64 software . But I have 6 "12" core 32 GB PC with GTX 1070 27 Inch Dell Monitor Where is my work on 27 inch is pleasure , lot of power from CPU and GPU
I can Imagine me working on surface 4 with adobe premier how slow it will be Limited storage 4 GB of ram 2 Cores CPU and integrated GPU What games you can play ?? 720p with super low details
4 I can keep in one hand Where Surface need to place on the desk etc ...
5 Battery Life Android wins
6 Software Optimized for touch on android where Windows 10 Half touch / half mouse
Im not saying that Android will replace your PC no I have Destop PC where is all my works done . I can imagine some student do not have options to have Desktop PC so they need something small
If I will be a student I will be getting min 13.3 or 14 Inch Laptop and tablet
Of course this is using a laptop as a "desktop replacement" with (frequently) a full sized monitor and keyboard. Perhaps if a Surface Pro is typically used more like and iPad then 4Gb might be mostly OK.
I will never buy an Apple mac again. Microsoft keeps knocking it out of the park for me these days.
Windows 10 is awesome as well.
Only thing that prevents it achieving perfect status is the relatively poor battery life.
But very much worth the money. (I have the 8GB version)
The surface SP4 is generally the best, but has a hefty premium on it. 4GB of RAM is under my minimum, I use almost 4GB just browsing, I'd like a bit of headroom for the future.
Also SP4 is a bit dated, no USB-C port like all the other "competitiors" (read: copy cats). SP5 will be out soon, so I'll wait to see what that is like. If it's not good, I think I'll go for the Acer Switch 12 Alpha, cheaper and feature rich. Slightly less high quality than the SP4, but I'll happily save £200-£300 for a less premium feel.
Sorry, I still cannot recommend this machine, because the specs are marginal.
Regards
Flea
Good point. :-)
4gb ram is absolutely fine for most tasks. You should know if you require more.
I've got the 8gb SP4 and its absolutely fantastic. Best device I've owned. Battery could always be better, and that's the only thing I'd like to see improved.
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