I found these on the screwfix website earlier and haven't seen them this cheap for one before. I know they have been available at 2 for £10 before and that they are the lower ampage ones but I wanted one and having had micro USB cables get very hot on 3.1a ports I wanted the slower ports for the socket next to my bed so I can charge my iPad and phone whilst having my bedside lamp plugged in.
Website states
White moulded outboard rocker socket with 2 x USB ports, 2.1A. Ideal for charging iPads, iPhones, tablets, mobiles, cameras and more. Features angled, in-line terminals and includes backed-out captive screws for easy installation.
Ideal Retrofit
ASTA Approved
Manufactured to BS 1363-2, EN 60950-1
I haven't posted before so please let me know if I have done something wrong.
Hope this helps someone get a bargain :-)
Top comments
jameshalinson to fish323
6 Mar 175#3
Are there any USB-C sockets out?
swellybro
6 Mar 175#23
Sorry just to quote part P. You can install a replacement socket. Although I would add you should be competent (here is where it is woolly). It should be a straightforward diy job however read up on it all first.
Q5: What types of electrical work are 'non-notifiable'?
The following types of work are non-notifiable:
Replacing accessories such as socket-outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, for example, by fire, rodent or impact (1)
Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components (2)
Providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations (3)
Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding (4)
Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation (5) and consists of:
- adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit (6)
- adding socket-outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit (6)
Notes:
(1) On condition that the replacement cable has the same current-carrying capacity, follows the same route and does not serve more than one sub-circuit through a distribution board;
(2) If the circuit's protective measures are unaffected;
(3) If the circuit's protective measures and current-carrying capacity of conductors are unaffected by increased thermal insulation;
(4) Such work shall comply with other applicable legislation, such as the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations;
(5) Special locations and installations are listed below;
(6) Only if the existing circuit protective device is suitable and provides protection for the modified circuit, and other relevant safety provisions are satisfactory.
Special locations and installations (5):
Locations containing a bath tub or shower basin
Swimming pools or paddling pools
Hot air saunas
Electric floor or ceiling heating systems
Garden lighting or power installations
Solar photovoltaic (PV) power supply systems
Small scale generators such as micro-CHP units
Extra-low voltage lighting installations, other than pre-assembled, CE-marked lighting sets
Note: See Guidance Note 7 which gives more guidance on achieving safe installations where risks to people are greater.
Q6: How will Part P apply to DIY work?
Part P will apply to all electrical work in dwellings, whether carried out by professionals or DIYers.
Some DIY work will require the submission of a building notice to the local authority and the payment of a building control fee.
Some minor electrical work will not be notifiable (see above). Examples include adding a lighting or power point to an existing circuit, adding a spur to an existing circuit or replacing a light fitting.
tightpants
6 Mar 174#5
Better buy, if design appropriate - 3.1A. 2 for £14. Bizarrely one costs£12.99. Put 2 in basket to get price.
If you need to ask, leave to an electrician. :smiley:
All comments (57)
fish323
6 Mar 17#1
Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete quite quickly.
jameshalinson to fish323
6 Mar 175#3
Are there any USB-C sockets out?
rob585 to fish323
6 Mar 172#18
I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket one end usb-c other end....??
Excuse my ignorance....
JayR123 to fish323
7 Mar 17#39
USB-c tends to be a replacement for Micro USB. As such, both the full size and USB-c will be around in tandem for some while.
As for charging speed... The lead you use makes a HUGE difference. On the same tablet and power supply I measured charging rates between 0.3A and 1.8A when changing just the lead. That's a 6x difference just by swapping the lead.
hollger to fish323
7 Mar 17#42
I expect that'll be some time yet and anyway, when that day arrives there are these:smiley:
stevos9 to fish323
7 Mar 17#43
Adaptors!
Gers1969 to fish323
7 Mar 17#44
Won't USB C chargers still plug in to a regular USB slot? Or is the power requirement different?
ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 171#2
how hard are these to fit?
can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician
mattbrownie to ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 172#4
Don't mean to sound like a jobs worth but if you have no electrical experience you should always get an electrician. Easy peasy for a sparky.
scoobytawazara to ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 171#6
not too difficult need to make sure will fit existing box and bend wires out of way to get cover to sit nicely so you can screw on the plate
MrBeatnik to ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 173#7
They are essentially normal sockets in terms of wiring - the USB is all taken care of "internally" to the socket.
Geemac to ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 174#14
If you need to ask, leave to an electrician. :smiley:
cabbage to ZEbbEDY
6 Mar 17#29
If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be pretty close to zero. Dumb-ways-to-die!
uksnapper to ZEbbEDY
7 Mar 17#40
Quite easy BUT if you are a novice with wiring get someone to check it before you switch the power back on.
tightpants
6 Mar 174#5
Better buy, if design appropriate - 3.1A. 2 for £14. Bizarrely one costs£12.99. Put 2 in basket to get price.
I have the 2.1amp in kitchen that's just to slow to charge phones. I bought another that's 3.1amp for lounge and that's charges fine although the touch screen on the phones won't work while charging. Static apparently I read... Im not a fan of these. Buy a decent 4 port charger for £12 ish.
shifty277 to wayners
6 Mar 173#11
My thoughts exactly. These inbuilt usb ports to the sockets are a fad just like 3d on tv's. They are just included to raise the prices of sockets and to try and sell more.
Virtually the same price (£9.99 rather than £9.98) for a 2-pack at Argos which may be more readily accessible for most. This seems to be the 'normal' price so not quite a hot deal...
No discussion on safety of these plus they on continuously using electricity. I'm no expert. Views anyone?
callum84 to Dr_Lovegod
6 Mar 171#24
Safety wise they are fine.
Was the first load of cheap unbranded ones that had problems. Poor isolation between mains and ELV transformer output and lot of other issues.
Power consumption wise, yes they are on all the time, you have 5v all the time but there is no load.
Without a load they will use very small amounts of energy due to losses in the transformer and any circuitry afterwards to rectify and smooth out the voltage.
Energy consumption is really not a problem.
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Opening post
Website states
White moulded outboard rocker socket with 2 x USB ports, 2.1A. Ideal for charging iPads, iPhones, tablets, mobiles, cameras and more. Features angled, in-line terminals and includes backed-out captive screws for easy installation.
Ideal Retrofit
ASTA Approved
Manufactured to BS 1363-2, EN 60950-1
I haven't posted before so please let me know if I have done something wrong.
Hope this helps someone get a bargain :-)
Top comments
Q5: What types of electrical work are 'non-notifiable'?
The following types of work are non-notifiable:
Replacing accessories such as socket-outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, for example, by fire, rodent or impact (1)
Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components (2)
Providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations (3)
Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding (4)
Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation (5) and consists of:
- adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit (6)
- adding socket-outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit (6)
Notes:
(1) On condition that the replacement cable has the same current-carrying capacity, follows the same route and does not serve more than one sub-circuit through a distribution board;
(2) If the circuit's protective measures are unaffected;
(3) If the circuit's protective measures and current-carrying capacity of conductors are unaffected by increased thermal insulation;
(4) Such work shall comply with other applicable legislation, such as the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations;
(5) Special locations and installations are listed below;
(6) Only if the existing circuit protective device is suitable and provides protection for the modified circuit, and other relevant safety provisions are satisfactory.
Special locations and installations (5):
Locations containing a bath tub or shower basin
Swimming pools or paddling pools
Hot air saunas
Electric floor or ceiling heating systems
Garden lighting or power installations
Solar photovoltaic (PV) power supply systems
Small scale generators such as micro-CHP units
Extra-low voltage lighting installations, other than pre-assembled, CE-marked lighting sets
Note: See Guidance Note 7 which gives more guidance on achieving safe installations where risks to people are greater.
Q6: How will Part P apply to DIY work?
Part P will apply to all electrical work in dwellings, whether carried out by professionals or DIYers.
Some DIY work will require the submission of a building notice to the local authority and the payment of a building control fee.
Some minor electrical work will not be notifiable (see above). Examples include adding a lighting or power point to an existing circuit, adding a spur to an existing circuit or replacing a light fitting.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-13a-2g-sp-switched-socket-3-1a-2g-usb-charger-white/4087p?_requestid=263442
All comments (57)
Excuse my ignorance....
As for charging speed... The lead you use makes a HUGE difference. On the same tablet and power supply I measured charging rates between 0.3A and 1.8A when changing just the lead. That's a 6x difference just by swapping the lead.
can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician
http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-13a-2g-sp-switched-socket-3-1a-2g-usb-charger-white/4087p?_requestid=263442
Have a look at the below adaptors:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/l02/Anker-2-Port-Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung-Motorola/B016LPMFUA/ref=zg_bs_340329031_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0K32XCCWWYTGQGDGX0BR
or
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aukey-Charger-Adapter-AiPower-Powered/dp/B018K7SO34/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1488818123&sr=8-9&keywords=aukey+usb
or
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Charger-AiPower-iPhone-Samsung/dp/B017UF5FPC/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1488818123&sr=8-8&keywords=aukey+usb
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5586220
Was the first load of cheap unbranded ones that had problems. Poor isolation between mains and ELV transformer output and lot of other issues.
Power consumption wise, yes they are on all the time, you have 5v all the time but there is no load.
Without a load they will use very small amounts of energy due to losses in the transformer and any circuitry afterwards to rectify and smooth out the voltage.
Energy consumption is really not a problem.