What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.


It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.

As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html

One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.

I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).

I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.

Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.

Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.

18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.

For what it's worth, I have a number of cheap torches from Gearbest/Bangood and for the money they are excellent. Very bright and well made, not had one fail yet. However, A friend of mine had one of these (originals) and it was hands down better, the question is, is it price difference better, not in my opinion, then again I only use them occasionally and can't justify getting the more expensive one.

If you just want a very bright torch, get a cheapy, if you need a very bright torch, get one of these.

With regards to these being fakes, it's very easy to check, just email LED Lenser the serial number on the side of the torch and they usually come back to you within a day. If it's fake, send it back. I bought a fake off ebay years ago and that's how I found out.

How many do you own?!

How does it compare to the 6 quid "copies" you get on ebay from the same place?

ie. Made in China

Great price for this...worth every penny, also Lenser customer service is second to none, if it actually breaks that is.

Just checked. 20 x 1 star reviews, some saying fake. Might be a good torch and good price, but in theory you could have 4 of the "fake" ones for the price of this, and for me personally not worth the risk from this seller. Which seems nuts because it is actually the seller who makes them! Go figure.

What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.


It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.

As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html

One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.

I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).

I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.

Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.

Why ask when you know the answer?

Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.

18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.