I think this is one of the best torch I own. It well build, compact and very bright for a torch. I haven't seen it to drop below £25 for a long time.
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Astec123
25 Jan 179#10
What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.
It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.
As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.
One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.
I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).
I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.
Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.
Astec123
25 Jan 175#12
Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.
18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.
xboxsteve
25 Jan 174#30
For what it's worth, I have a number of cheap torches from Gearbest/Bangood and for the money they are excellent. Very bright and well made, not had one fail yet. However, A friend of mine had one of these (originals) and it was hands down better, the question is, is it price difference better, not in my opinion, then again I only use them occasionally and can't justify getting the more expensive one.
If you just want a very bright torch, get a cheapy, if you need a very bright torch, get one of these.
Ven23
25 Jan 173#20
With regards to these being fakes, it's very easy to check, just email LED Lenser the serial number on the side of the torch and they usually come back to you within a day. If it's fake, send it back. I bought a fake off ebay years ago and that's how I found out.
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ScorchingHot
25 Jan 172#1
How many do you own?!
rehydrated
25 Jan 171#2
How does it compare to the 6 quid "copies" you get on ebay from the same place?
YouDontWantToKnow to rehydrated
25 Jan 17#4
A lot better & its adjustable.
Excellent price... Very Hot
Might have to buy one for my partner as she keeps nicking my P7!!
rehydrated
25 Jan 17#3
ie. Made in China
YouDontWantToKnow to rehydrated
25 Jan 17#5
Oh yeah. Most of the brightest cheap chinese models have a non UK standard battery so you will also need to buy a charger & they are dodgy in themselves with 2 pin not helping either.
Klippie
25 Jan 17#6
Great price for this...worth every penny, also Lenser customer service is second to none, if it actually breaks that is.
rehydrated
25 Jan 171#7
Just checked. 20 x 1 star reviews, some saying fake. Might be a good torch and good price, but in theory you could have 4 of the "fake" ones for the price of this, and for me personally not worth the risk from this seller. Which seems nuts because it is actually the seller who makes them! Go figure.
northwales to rehydrated
25 Jan 173#8
what are you smoking. this seller?? This torch is sold directly by Amazon. As for 4 fakes for price of this, not even in your dreams, the fakes still fetch about £20.
YouDontWantToKnow to rehydrated
25 Jan 171#9
Its funny that the only people to criticise Lenser products are those that have never owned one.
& at this price it is indeed a bargain.
Keep to your cheap Chinese... You do not know what you are missing. My cheap chinese are god knows where in the house & havent been used for 2 years plus. My Lenser P7 is on a kitchen shelf so I know where it is at all times & is used 4 months of the year easily for the last 5 to 6 years I have had it.
Astec123
25 Jan 179#10
What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.
It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.
As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.
One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.
I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).
I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.
Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.
YouDontWantToKnow
25 Jan 17#11
Why ask when you know the answer?
Astec123
25 Jan 175#12
Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.
18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.
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It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.
As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html
One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.
I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).
I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.
Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.
18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.
If you just want a very bright torch, get a cheapy, if you need a very bright torch, get one of these.
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Excellent price... Very Hot
Might have to buy one for my partner as she keeps nicking my P7!!
& at this price it is indeed a bargain.
Keep to your cheap Chinese... You do not know what you are missing. My cheap chinese are god knows where in the house & havent been used for 2 years plus. My Lenser P7 is on a kitchen shelf so I know where it is at all times & is used 4 months of the year easily for the last 5 to 6 years I have had it.
It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.
As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html
One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.
I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).
I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.
Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.
18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.