What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.


It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.

As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html

One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.

I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).

I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.

Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.

Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.

18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.

For what it's worth, I have a number of cheap torches from Gearbest/Bangood and for the money they are excellent. Very bright and well made, not had one fail yet. However, A friend of mine had one of these (originals) and it was hands down better, the question is, is it price difference better, not in my opinion, then again I only use them occasionally and can't justify getting the more expensive one.

If you just want a very bright torch, get a cheapy, if you need a very bright torch, get one of these.

With regards to these being fakes, it's very easy to check, just email LED Lenser the serial number on the side of the torch and they usually come back to you within a day. If it's fake, send it back. I bought a fake off ebay years ago and that's how I found out.

The T7M is on offer for £26.99 today. For those who missed out the P7.2
I've posted a new link
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ledlenser-9807m-t7m-tactical-led-torch-gift-box-black-2611709

Can anyone recommend a head torch or headlamp?

​I have an M22 Warrior from OLight. It's been taken sea diving and all sorts. Not missed a beat.

Aye, I'm saying more compared to full price. It's why I got it on the deal originally.
And I paid £34 more for the Thrunite but it's totally worth it. Obviously depends on budget etc. But I won't notice the £34. But will notice the torch

At full price you could get a good quality modern 18650 for the same or similar price, and only a bit more for the Thrunite etc.

I never get the convenience argument for AAA/AA

They're environmentally unfriendly. You need to quick swapping them.
If you want to go rechargeable AAA/AA then you need to take them out, charge them, put them back in etc.

Multiple cells are less reliable than a single cell.

I can charge my torch from a power bank, phone charger, etc.
I could even charge it from a portable solar panel, large power bank (e.g. if camping), laptop, even a hand crank!

And you can carry spare, charged 18650 cells with you if you really want. And they'll last much longer.
Can also be used as power banks I believe, and easily charged. E.g. Thrunite do a very compact 18650 charger for their torches that don't have integrated charging.

Then you have the Olight S30R which charges on a magnetic base.
So you can have it there ready to go at all times.
E.g. as a side light. Take it off the stand to let the dog out at night etc.
Use the firefly mode to walk around the house without disturbing others.

If you wanted a bulky zoomable torch, which the P7.2 is, you could get this for a similar price:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Flashlight-Water-Resistant-Rechargeable-Pocket-Sized/dp/B01KH2JP5G/

Which is more like the T7M as it has a full set of modes.
More than the T7M actually - actual proper lumen spacing.

But I returned an Aksor which seems pretty much the same:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AKSOR-10W-Flashlight/dp/B01M9FQMD8/

Because the beam pattern is even worse than the LED Lenser, has a dark centre.

Thanks for replying, I'll check them out.

The TC12 does have an impressive spec but then it is 2.5 times the cost of this deal. I imagine the TC12 looks like junk compared to a £150 torch!

Li-ion batteries are always going to outperform traditional batteries but the convenience of AAA/AA should not be overlooked. Just buy them anywhere and bung them in; no need to worry about chargers/leads, access to a power source or 4-5 hour charging times.

Also quite funny how there's discussion of LED Lenser vs cheap Chinese brands, when there are Chinese brands that cost more and are much better than LED Lenser (actually I guess LED Lenser's rechargeable models cost more, but yeah), such as Thrunite, and I believe OLight are Chinese too. Most are made in Shenzen it seems.

Only tried LED Lenser and have Thrunite so far, but other decent brands are meant to be Olight, Klarus, Nitecore, etc.

Not voted, but just got to say this torch is crap.

I've got the T7M in a lightning deal for only £3 more, it's basically the same with more functions.

The lens is plastic.

Zoomed out the beam is fine. Zoomed in anywhere in the middle and centre is dark.
With notable artefacts.

Can't take lithium ion batteries apparently, only 1.2v NiMH
Which I believe are much weaker

AAAs do suck, compared to AAs, and especially compared to 18650s etc.

The torch looks good, the box, warranty, presentation etc. is great.
So good as a gift for someone that doesn't know much about torches, or wants to use disposable batteries.

And at this price I guess it's reasonable.

But when I compare it to the Thrunite TC12 which I got - (£60 on Amazon) - which charges directly, outputs 1000 lumens, has a wide range of lumen output modes, two switches, IPX8 waterproofing - and importantly is half the size and twice as powerful, more solid, and can be charged directly from your laptop or phone charger - the LED Lenser just looks like junk.

If you're paying full price it'd be madness, as you can get high quality proper modern 18650 torches for only about £10 more. And if you're willing to go with more budget brands, for the same price or less.

This thing is ridiculously large.

Not really EDC at all.

Thought I'd keep it as a curio, or maybe sell on eBay, but even at £26.99 for the T7M it's not worth it.

Nonsense, I have a led lenser T7 sitting at home that's over 6 years old still with the original AAA batteries!

​ditto... missed out too

No longer available at that price. Shame, just got a dog and need a decent torch for nighttime walking

​The sentence was "any sellers or brands"

In a reply to someone asking for recommended cheap brands. :-s

​As I said "not a cheap brand" :wink:

These are priced similarly to LED Lenser. Not really in the cheap generic Chinese £3 category.

I use and have always used O-Light torches. Fantastic customer service and great warranty. Built like tanks too. Used by many army/police forces too so not a cheap brand.

You literally have no idea :smiley:

Because it's sold direct from Amazon,don't mean it's not a fake ! I was sent fake Samsung sd cards direct from Amazon last year and sent them straight back.

Price as now increased.

Just buy 10 cheap torches at random. That way you might still have a torch which works in seven years time...

Standard LED Lenser warranty is 5 years, but increases to 7 years if you register online.

Out of interest, would you recommend any sellers/brands.

Not bad but definitely prefer my ThruNite TN12.

​sarcasm one hopes

this is going down in my HUKD unnecessary purchases drawer. I call it a drawer, it's now an attic, two bedrooms and half a giant big yellow storage unit

I have a number of £2 CREE pocket torches (useful for the bag, car, bedside) which suit most of my needs, but who can resist a new toy?

​Click on new and used (43).... From £22.79 and you'll see the Amazon one (fulfilled and sold by Amazon) at £23.99. Add it to your basket... And Bob's your uncle....

If you buy from a marketplace seller rather than Amazon.
Are you needing some additional divine light?

I own two Fenix torches. One TK75 2900 with lumens and another with 1000 lumens for my lady. All use Panasonic 18650 batteries. Different people have different needs. I would not touch a non-rechargeable battery or even AA rechargeable batteries. But for everyday use, someone would like this model. So hot from me.

still £23.99 ON BACK ORDER 3RD FEB

Still £23.99, just ordered !

Still 23.99 for me

Price gone back up to £41.41

Back up to £41.41 now......

Clench torch in fist & smack them in the head with it. The torch is proper solid.

No, they're definitely referring to rechargeable batteries (that's clear from the French text). There are issues around rechargeables and Led Lenser, with some models saying they're OK and some not. I've never had a problem, but it will invalidate the warranty.

​next step run like feck

Probably you can blind someone from quite a distance :P they are also


I think that means dont try to recharge the batteries it came with. They are Duracell non rechargeable. there shouldn't be any issue with getting decent rechargeable and a charger to use with it.

It has a much better LED and lense and is less likely to explode in your pocket :P

Now £41.41 :disappointed:

​And then what? If you need a torch to do this, then you are unlikely to be able to deal with the next step.

Came on here to get a lightning to sd card cable... end up buying a torch?

Ahh HUKD, you lure me in then steal my pennies! :smirk:

Probably not - but an awful lot of Maglites are bought primarily as offensive weapons!

I wonder if these torches are good enough to temporarily blind an attacker.

No it's 10million candles.

Or how small you are..

Not me, always use them.

Hot price! Ordered!

From the manual:

"Batteries
Never try to recharge batteries or use new and used batteries together. Always change all old
batteries at the same time and only use high quality batteries that are of the same kind. Do not use
high current batteries or accumulators because of different electrical values. If you do not intend to
use the flashlight for a long period of time, take the batteries out to prevent leaking and damage to
the flashlight. Discharged batteries must be taken out. Used batteries and accumulators are
hazardous waste and must be disposed of according to government regulations."

So no rechargeables - theoretically at least. Has anyone ever actually had any problems using rechargeables in Led Lenser torches not designed for them?

I've got a P7, bought a T7M when they were cheap a while ago and if you want brightness, go for one of those instead of this. Just amazing.
They're not cheap now, but they will be again.

Of course depends just how big your house is.....

​wow they still making those awful T6 zoomies, buying them several years ago. They are ok, despite the square throw pattern. Most last for a few months, then break.

as for getting 4 fake lenser, nope. They currently fetch about £16 to £20 on eBay. so no one will be getting 4 fakes for the cost of £24.

As for brand snob, far from it. as said already most of the Chinese specials use the 18650 and are ok if using around the home, but for anything else, not really. A torch that uses primary cells will win over the 18650 any day. (primary cell as in, walk into virtually any shop and buy pack of batteries and use straight away.)

I own several lenser, as well as olight, fenix, maglite, the united, thorfire, surefire, meco and non branded. I use on daily basis the lenser p7.2 over all the rest.

four 7's sorry

may want to check out quark , thrunite ,777's, or look on candlepowerforums

davetherave check out the nitecore tip , micro usb 360 lumen keyring torch its about £25-£30 I use mine daily

You will get £5 off if you use Prime Now for the first time but is not available to all UK city

I've owned the older P7 for several years (previous HUKD Maplin offer with a P3) and it is still working well. I love the build quality when in hand and the convenience of using off-the-shelf batteries. The P7.2 has a number of improvements; increased output, bigger lens and a better switch, so a worthwhile upgrade at this price. My old P7 will be relegated to the car glove box.

dodge its better to have it and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it . strobes induce temporary blindness (assailants,muggers) beacon is good for car breakdown's , I'm assuming you'd know what SOS is used for ?

managed to get it for £18.99 using prime now

I don't need a 4th lenser but they are so good, i am tempted. All are still going strong despite being dropped, abused, lost and found, left outside and generally mistreated in every way. Fantastic quality torches backed up by great customer service.

i own the model before this and yes its made well and should last for ages. if you need a torch to rely on this would be the one

Anyone know of any small and cheap torches that have micro usb charging?

I have an Ultrafire at the moment, but having to take the battery out and use a battery charger is annoying.....wanna just be able to use my phone charger.

Great torch for size.

Been waiting for the led lenser tactical torch to go on offer as this one is a bit big for my purposes but couldn't resist at this price

I have a P14 that I love and is working after many years, but i want this just because I love the brand!! Please stop me buying more tourches!!

AAA batteries ? no thanks I'll stick with AA's , much cheaper easily available worldwide and give you 3 times the runtime , no strobe ,beacon or s.o.s. makes this ice cold for me , I'll stick with my 1000 lumen nitecore ea45s , it was on hukd about 2 months ago

For what it's worth, I have a number of cheap torches from Gearbest/Bangood and for the money they are excellent. Very bright and well made, not had one fail yet. However, A friend of mine had one of these (originals) and it was hands down better, the question is, is it price difference better, not in my opinion, then again I only use them occasionally and can't justify getting the more expensive one.

If you just want a very bright torch, get a cheapy, if you need a very bright torch, get one of these.

That's until you're camping or travel and AAAs are available everywhere.

Worth every penny. I have some cheap torches also, which to be fair are good for the price but this torch is another level. The build quality is amazing, absolute top quality.

Is there any other good quality torch that's more powerful than this for the same price or less

Thanks for sharing. Voted hot and ordered one :-)

Unless you're using it on a bike, why on earth would you want any of those? Stupid gimmick modes like those always put me off buying a torch which has them, unless they can be programmed out.

Personally I'd recommend the Fenix range over LED Lenser, but each to his own.

This is the best EDC torch available in my opinion... ThruNite TC12 Micro-USB Interface Rechargeable Tactical LED Flashlight(battery included) (TC12 V2 NW) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M3TSBB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_R-gIybBFGAJJG

Shame it doesn't flash, would be good for the bike then.

I have owned a p7 for a good few years now, I'd this one much better?

Nice!!!

With regards to these being fakes, it's very easy to check, just email LED Lenser the serial number on the side of the torch and they usually come back to you within a day. If it's fake, send it back. I bought a fake off ebay years ago and that's how I found out.

Got this for Christmas, it's fabulous. Good buy

These are decent torches. High price, yes, but the difference between these and the cheap Chinese imports (yes, I know these are Chinese, but the build quality is controlled) is enormous. I know that because I used to buy the cheapos, but gave up when I discovered how much better these are.

The cheapos fail pretty quickly - usually it's the switch mechanism that packs up - and they always feel cheap. These don't. It's like the difference between a bog standard toaster and a Dualit. Unless you've tried both, you'll never understand.

Does have it the brightness of a million candles?

I had the P7 years ago then got this one just before Christmas. Absolutely love it and its a god send when I'm walking the dog in the mornings and evenings.

I have the smaller 6.2 version, great torch. I use it every and at work and evenings walking the dog. Build quality is excellent. I have owned various cheap chinese torches and whilst very bright I find that with everyday constant use they soon fail.
At this price this torch is an absolute steal, it will last for years

Because, one your comment makes no sense in the first place and I'm calling out your disingenuous comment if that's what you were suggesting that any of those standards is non UK standard. Yes they aren't UK standards, they are international ones that everyone uses and have been around for some time now because the world has agreed that these standards make life easier, much like the metric system, measurement of time and a whole host of other things.

18650 being around for years now as a standard. Most laptops use them, they've been a key part of the hobby world such as models for a long time too. When you've tried some torches that use them you'll quickly start questioning how you managed with AA, C, D or AAA powered torches.

Why ask when you know the answer?

What the hell is a non UK standard battery? I presume you're referring to 18650 or other standard high capacity cells? I've purchased loads of cheap Chinese brand torches over the last few years, every single one has worked with standard batteries available just about anywhere. 18650, 26650, AA, AAA, C, D, AAAA and more besides, of which I own a selection of chargers that are UK purchased and will charge any of those batteries and a whole load of other ones besides.


It's not unheard of for suppliers to get dodgy stock and I've seen a few stories of 'sold by Amazon' ending up being fakes. OK not any significant volume but it does happen, there are always dodgy people who are more than happy to lower their standards at the expense of others. The plus side is Amazon are pretty committed to customer service so this happens so infrequently that it's not an issue worth worrying over but should always be on the mind of any consumer.

As to 4 fakes for the price of this torch, easily done.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_15293.html

One such example, of course it's not a fake Lenser torch as the permissions of HUKD would prevent me posting such a link but it's easy to find said fakes using a google search if you really must and at the aforementioned pricing.

I happen to own one of these and I use it on a regular basis as my daily workhorse torch at work. I have 3 torches I carry with me at work and this one gets by far and away the most use. Yes it's not got Lenser branding, but the quality is more than reasonable, the price is fantastic and while I'd love to spend a fortune on a super high end torch, the downsides of this one don't for me justify the expense of buying something that's only a small degree better and potentially might get lost while doing my job (and that would just annoy me spending a lot of money on a torch to have it end up lost).

I know I can order 3 more replacements and still have change compared to a more premium name brand like this deal. When I compare to the premium options used by co-workers against my cheap Chinese torch, this one is certainly on par in the most important performance metric of lighting ability.

Additionally, heat added as this is a great price for this torch, but anyone suggesting that a cheaper alternative is any less viable just happens to be another brand snob in my book. Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on torches, some people have jobs that put torches at risk of theft or loss, police officers, security guards, mechanics, electricians and so on all are jobs that torch use is a key part of but not everyone wants to risk having these things on their mind all day long because they worry about losing another torch that will set them back a chunk of cash every time.

Just checked. 20 x 1 star reviews, some saying fake. Might be a good torch and good price, but in theory you could have 4 of the "fake" ones for the price of this, and for me personally not worth the risk from this seller. Which seems nuts because it is actually the seller who makes them! Go figure.

Great price for this...worth every penny, also Lenser customer service is second to none, if it actually breaks that is.

ie. Made in China

How does it compare to the 6 quid "copies" you get on ebay from the same place?

How many do you own?!