55" 4K ULED TV for under £700 with a 5 yr guarantee thrown in from John Lewis.
Damn. I want this. I can't have it though. Maybe others can?
"Bring the brilliance of full-colour HDR to your living room with Hisense’s stunning set. Mingling pin-sharp 4K, vivid 10-bit colour and the brand’s innovative ULED technology, your shows will look remarkable. All of this tech is joined by the app-filled Hisense Smart platform, PVR compatibility and elegant Ultra Slim design. Bright, colourful and cutting-edge, this feature-packed set will the hub of your home entertainment system."
Top comments
The_Hoff
9 Jan 177#10
Really don't understand the rush for 4K.
Media just hasn't caught up and the content out there that's worth watching specifically on 4K versus 1080p is hardly exhaustive.
Unless you physically need a new TV my advice is to wait, the technology on display at CES is enough of a step change to warrant the wait, if only to benefit on today's sets at a healthy reduction in the months to come (yes, I know thing will always depreciate). There's some exciting stuff coming this year:
More OLED.
Proper HDR sets with appropriate dimming.
HDR standardisation / Manufacturers supporting the 4 competing HDR and HLG technologies.
And very thin TV's, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXsUJrBGCI
The_Hoff
9 Jan 174#11
That's why I explicitly mentioned if you need (i.e your don't have one, it broke) then 4K makes sense. What I don't see sense in is throwing away a decent 1080P set for a second rate 4K screen, or indeed any 4K screen at the moment. Especially until manufacturers commit to support those devices after the HDR standards are addressed.
Dolby Vision is pretty much the only standard with specific criteria of which they independently certify devices with (the cost of doing so isn't welcome obviously), the others are more akin to a wildwest of conjecture and interpretation with no independent body to police manufacturers labelling their devices as HDR compliant (they might comply with only 1 element only), even Samsung with their Premium label are stretching it with many devices, like the 7000 series, which can only achieve 1000 nits for a few short seconds and doesn't have entirely appropriate dimming to prevent the backlight causing issues in dark scenes.
Most of this is addressed in the next wave of products thankfully as they're less worried about being first to market and more happy to cooperate it seems - only Samsung seem to have said they have no plans to support other HDR standards, whereas Sony, LG, Panasonic have said they plan to adopt all of the standards they're capable of.
Of much more interest to me is HLG which will allow HDR like contrast for live TV, it should be agnostic of device type but I won't be buying in to it until I know I can benefit from HDR for programming supporting it, that's what I watch most of (live TV) and so that's what I value.
Same price at RS. Bought one on Saturday. It's a great screen. £50 less at Crompton and Moore though. Try to get JL to price match
ibl0010 to danieltruman
9 Jan 171#5
How thin is the TV?
The back which house the components look bulky that may make the TV stick out too much when wall mounted.
courtster
9 Jan 171#2
Back up at £689 at C&M now. I price matched at £649 yesterday.
groakybaby to courtster
9 Jan 172#3
Isn't that only a 2 yr guarantee though? Compared with JL's 5 yr-er
ibl0010
9 Jan 171#4
To buy now or to wait until July /august question. Just when I was trying to convince my brain to buy to the hisense 55m7000 (which I am told is comparable to Sammy ks7000 in picture quality but cheaper), another reason to wait for the release of the MU8700 to get the full benefits of HDR10 (1000 nits ) is making the decision harder and harder. As I am aware the m7000 uses true 10 bits panel only display in 8bits with dithering. I therefore have few questions for you guys if I may:
1. Is HDR 10 bits significantly more superior than 8 bit with dithering and if yes, will the average Joe notice the difference between 10 bits than 8 bits with dithering?
2. Is there many HDR 10 contents available to watch.
3. Is 8bits with dithering just as enjoyable as 10bit or is 10 bits the way forum?
4. Any idea when hisense will release prices for the UK 2017 models?
danieltruman
9 Jan 17#6
Without the stand it's 6cm thick - it was slightly thicker than I thought but I'm not wall mounting
delusion
9 Jan 172#7
Looks good, but going to keep holding for now.
Will add to the shortlist along with the KS7000 incase a deal too good to refuse pops up... :stuck_out_tongue:
tcee81
9 Jan 17#8
Same price @ RS with 6 yrs...
courtster
9 Jan 17#9
I price matched the £649 at C&M with JL and got the 5 years. I was surprised to see them respond on a Sunday. Excellent customer service.
The_Hoff
9 Jan 177#10
Really don't understand the rush for 4K.
Media just hasn't caught up and the content out there that's worth watching specifically on 4K versus 1080p is hardly exhaustive.
Unless you physically need a new TV my advice is to wait, the technology on display at CES is enough of a step change to warrant the wait, if only to benefit on today's sets at a healthy reduction in the months to come (yes, I know thing will always depreciate). There's some exciting stuff coming this year:
More OLED.
Proper HDR sets with appropriate dimming.
HDR standardisation / Manufacturers supporting the 4 competing HDR and HLG technologies.
And very thin TV's, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXsUJrBGCI
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Damn. I want this. I can't have it though. Maybe others can?
"Bring the brilliance of full-colour HDR to your living room with Hisense’s stunning set. Mingling pin-sharp 4K, vivid 10-bit colour and the brand’s innovative ULED technology, your shows will look remarkable. All of this tech is joined by the app-filled Hisense Smart platform, PVR compatibility and elegant Ultra Slim design. Bright, colourful and cutting-edge, this feature-packed set will the hub of your home entertainment system."
Top comments
Media just hasn't caught up and the content out there that's worth watching specifically on 4K versus 1080p is hardly exhaustive.
Unless you physically need a new TV my advice is to wait, the technology on display at CES is enough of a step change to warrant the wait, if only to benefit on today's sets at a healthy reduction in the months to come (yes, I know thing will always depreciate). There's some exciting stuff coming this year:
More OLED.
Proper HDR sets with appropriate dimming.
HDR standardisation / Manufacturers supporting the 4 competing HDR and HLG technologies.
And very thin TV's, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXsUJrBGCI
Dolby Vision is pretty much the only standard with specific criteria of which they independently certify devices with (the cost of doing so isn't welcome obviously), the others are more akin to a wildwest of conjecture and interpretation with no independent body to police manufacturers labelling their devices as HDR compliant (they might comply with only 1 element only), even Samsung with their Premium label are stretching it with many devices, like the 7000 series, which can only achieve 1000 nits for a few short seconds and doesn't have entirely appropriate dimming to prevent the backlight causing issues in dark scenes.
Most of this is addressed in the next wave of products thankfully as they're less worried about being first to market and more happy to cooperate it seems - only Samsung seem to have said they have no plans to support other HDR standards, whereas Sony, LG, Panasonic have said they plan to adopt all of the standards they're capable of.
Of much more interest to me is HLG which will allow HDR like contrast for live TV, it should be agnostic of device type but I won't be buying in to it until I know I can benefit from HDR for programming supporting it, that's what I watch most of (live TV) and so that's what I value.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2016-12-bbc-high-dynamic-range-2016
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The back which house the components look bulky that may make the TV stick out too much when wall mounted.
1. Is HDR 10 bits significantly more superior than 8 bit with dithering and if yes, will the average Joe notice the difference between 10 bits than 8 bits with dithering?
2. Is there many HDR 10 contents available to watch.
3. Is 8bits with dithering just as enjoyable as 10bit or is 10 bits the way forum?
4. Any idea when hisense will release prices for the UK 2017 models?
Will add to the shortlist along with the KS7000 incase a deal too good to refuse pops up... :stuck_out_tongue:
Media just hasn't caught up and the content out there that's worth watching specifically on 4K versus 1080p is hardly exhaustive.
Unless you physically need a new TV my advice is to wait, the technology on display at CES is enough of a step change to warrant the wait, if only to benefit on today's sets at a healthy reduction in the months to come (yes, I know thing will always depreciate). There's some exciting stuff coming this year:
More OLED.
Proper HDR sets with appropriate dimming.
HDR standardisation / Manufacturers supporting the 4 competing HDR and HLG technologies.
And very thin TV's, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXsUJrBGCI