Nougat has been designed to run perfectly on 1gb as kitkat was.
Lollipop and Marshmallow just became stupidly bloated.
rod_hull to carsick77
28 Dec 163#18
Got one for Christmas, it's great. Loaded it with apps, no lag whatsoever. So much cobblers talked about RAM.
mrwhitelabel
26 Dec 16#2
In £79 on Vodafone
So if you can get it unlocked for less than £20 it's cheaper there
SteTheDon to mrwhitelabel
26 Dec 161#3
Don't you have to buy the £10 top up?
mrwhitelabel
26 Dec 16#6
Yes just checked £10 purchase is required still cheaper than this though with unlock
carsick77
26 Dec 163#7
I wish this was true, ALL UK stock is 1gb. Only the international version is 2gb - which would make for a much better experience.
rantantan
26 Dec 161#8
why are uk versions only 1 gb and us have 2 gb
joyf4536 to rantantan
26 Dec 1623#9
Brexit
wyldwyvern to rantantan
26 Dec 16#11
We get the NFC equipped model for android pay. I have it, it's just as fast if not faster than my old phone running kitkat. That phone had a snapdragon 410, 1gb ram, NFC etc and stock android as well.
n3m3s1s to rantantan
29 Dec 16#42
Phone users do tend to be twice the size in the USA, I think ?
SCOUSEKEVIN
28 Dec 161#12
Definitely only 1GB ram I bought one yesterday and as I dont play games on a phone it is fine for me. Annoying that
the ARGOS website states 2GB so I telephoned them and pointed out the error and had them do a search for Motorola XT 1604 which is the ref for this phone and I have just been given a 20% discount, they are sending a check out.
So I am quite happy with this for £80.
kalamata to SCOUSEKEVIN
28 Dec 167#13
a check will not be much good. Ask them to send a cheque instead.
check_your_bank
28 Dec 162#14
US has 2GB beacuse Trump won.
Guy_With_Beard
28 Dec 16#15
Brexit failed.
check_your_bank
28 Dec 162#16
Obviously, we only got 1 g b
mrfinch
28 Dec 165#17
He did a deal with Chinnnnnnnna!
Codify
28 Dec 16#19
Are you sure that's not the G4
Guy_With_Beard
28 Dec 16#20
OMG 1GB FAIL F**K YOU GOVE!
LOL.
djh1975
28 Dec 16#21
Bought my girlfriend this phone for £79, she is happy with it so far.
zippypants to djh1975
29 Dec 162#44
Not many girls would appreciate that, don't let her go Marry her before some else does.
Oneday77
28 Dec 161#22
Since when was 1GB in a phone below par. Windows phones make do with half that. iPhones until recently had 1GB.
Is android getting that inefficient it needs more. I see threads where people wet themselves over 3GB equipped phones.
carsick77 to Oneday77
29 Dec 161#27
You are quite right, Windows Phone's do cope better with lower hardware demands but with their market share shrinking even further and big name apps dropping support, it is difficult to compare how Windows and Android run on day to day.
With iOS, they only have to cater for about 6 devices (if you take iOS 10 for example which dropped all phones prior to 5C) so similar to game consoles, they are able to get more out of the hardware.
No one is saying Android won't run on 1gb, we are simply saying it won't be a pleasant experience and that there are other options for slightly more where the experience would be far greater.
tumbleweed34
28 Dec 16#23
The regular G4 should be £100 by now. This isn't a good price for a weak phone.
The new Moto G is due out in March as well. Will make this look look ridiculous in comparison.
Evouk to tumbleweed34
29 Dec 16#38
The G4 isn't a weak phone. Too many **** this phone off because of the bootloop problem. Yes I know that it could effect any G4 but considering how many were sold the bootloop only effects early versions and later build dates on a small percentage. No way would it sell at £100.
preecey
28 Dec 164#24
Seriously guys, 1GB of RAM in an Android phone is NOT sufficient unless you only plan to use it for calls and texts.
The P9 Lite, for just a few quid more from EE, is a far more capable device and won't make your hair fall out after five minutes of use.
arshanm2016 to preecey
29 Dec 16#25
Shouldn't you guys check the specs first and then comment.
1.2 Snapdragon Processor
2 GB Ram
16 GB Rom.
carsick77 to preecey
29 Dec 16#26
I couldn't agree more. I completely get this is an entry level phone and peoples needs will not be the same as someone buying a £300+ phone but 1gb will be such a dog to run even basic apps. The rest of the hardware is fine for the price range.
On the point of the P9 Lite, I can personally recommend this phone - few of my friends own it and I have had both the Honor 7 and Honor 8, both suberb phones that Huawei keep up to date. The P9 Lite is getting Android 7 in Q1 2017, there is a early build already available.
Oneday77
29 Dec 161#28
In other words Android isn't quite the Panacea everyone touts. All applications become bloated but Google should do better to cater for the huge market it has inspired.
Mcall_r
29 Dec 162#29
Shouldn't you check previous posts first and then comment? If you did then you will see that the specs that Argos have listed are wrong.
carsick77
29 Dec 161#30
A lot of it comes down to how the OS has been setup on the phone - there of course has been very light weight custom roms setup on older / entry level devices which run Marshmallow and Nugaut no problems at all but like any OS (Apple included) once the user starts to add to it, it will slow down slightly... however with 1gb, will slow down quickly. You need to remember the same ROM give or take is being used on the international version of this phone which has 2gb ram.
Common apps such as Facebook and Messenger which would no doubt be used on this phone use over 0.5gb when running, doesn't leave much left for the OS and other apps does it.
Gavin01
29 Dec 16#31
is this better than a galaxy s5?
bluejmc2005 to Gavin01
29 Dec 16#32
No
preecey to Gavin01
29 Dec 16#33
No
pr3dicta5le to Gavin01
29 Dec 16#34
No
redsnappa
29 Dec 16#35
Without any evidence to support your claims your words are just opinion not fact.
me_lee
29 Dec 16#36
Got one of these for my son - works well. Very smooth despite only having 1Gb RAM.
redsnappa
29 Dec 16#37
The full version Of Microsoft Windows 10 can easily work on 1GB RAM I'm surprised a Linux based OS is less efficient.
sam_of_london to redsnappa
30 Dec 16#47
When does it work fine with 1gb ram ? in your dreams ?
tumbleweed34
29 Dec 16#39
I didn't say the G4 was a weak phone. Jesus Christ. There's a lot of people who can't read in this thread. I'll try again.
The G4 Play is a weak phone and the regular G4 should have had a major price drop by now, if the next model is coming out in 3 months.
HotdogginJNR
29 Dec 16#40
Im going to wait for the Moto g5, its out in March guys and they normally have loads of early deals.
bhavesh_godhani
29 Dec 16#41
every product of motorola is great.
juggy33
29 Dec 16#43
these any good
amour3k
30 Dec 16#45
U.S. has nowt to do with Europe ... :stuck_out_tongue:
They put 2Gb in the Dual SIM Moto G4 which I bought from Amazon. Perhaps they stuck at 1Gb in the Moto G4 Play to keep the cost down.
carsick77
30 Dec 16#52
Completely agree. From someone with a quad core Intel Compute Stick with full Windows 10, latest update and 2gb ram I can tell you even that struggles to perform even the most basic of tasks if you have a few tabs open. 1gb for full Windows 10 would be a joke!
Darude
30 Dec 16#53
1GB phones in 2017 = STONE COLD!! :confused:
metrolpg
30 Dec 16#54
Awesome handset with this budget.
zippypants
30 Dec 16#55
I have the same problem !
stevemona
30 Dec 16#56
never going to buy a lenovo phone again which is what Motorola is these days, compared to the innovative Moto G V1-V3 this range of G4 is a major step in the wrong direction, cheap build quality, Ghost touch issues, no thanks, i'm staying well clear.
Talk about RAM maybe valid, but only for certain users - gamers etc. Also a lot of memory improvemnts in Nougat which is due for this phone fairly imminently. Great price.
preecey to sgrech
30 Dec 162#60
Plus people who like to listen to music in the background.
My Android tablet, which has only 1GB of RAM, very frequently kills the music service when I'm browsing a slightly graphically intensive website at the same time. As a result I have to go back in to my music app and start playing the song again. Once I've done this, I then have to go back into Chrome and almost always find that Android has then also killed the tab of the website I was browsing, resulting in it having to reload.
So if you want to listen to music and browse websites at the same time, this phone is NOT for you!
Oh, and did I mention that Android phones/tablets with 1GB of RAM also suffer from launcher redraw issues? When my tablet kills my music app after browsing something too heavy in Chrome, I press the home button and almost always I have to wait around 5 seconds for Nova Launcher to reappear again.
Android + 1GB of RAM = Epic fail!
Android + 2GB of RAM = Minimum requirement for efficient multitasking
Android + 3GB of RAM = Enough to cater for highly intensive tasks in the background
Android + 4GB of RAM = Plenty
gregmarko
30 Dec 16#59
I purchased mine off spanish amazon. Paid a bit more but then I have 2gb version.
Paid 120.
Uk motorola are morons
asc91
31 Dec 16#61
No idea why hot, personally think this would be luke warm at half the price.
Orcinus_orca
31 Dec 161#62
1GB RAM....
saunderscowie to Orcinus_orca
31 Dec 16#63
Fellow gaffer I see..
bvgp
31 Dec 16#64
ITS 2GB !
preecey to bvgp
31 Dec 16#65
It isn't. Argos is wrong, like they are most of the time with the descriptions of tech stuff.
chancooluk to bvgp
31 Dec 16#66
The UK version has 1GB RAM. Variants sold in other countries have 2GB RAM, but don't include NFC.
gb1999
31 Dec 161#67
Honestly you'd think this phone was as old as a Nokia 3310 the way some people are going on here!
1gb of RAM will be fine if you mainly use your phone for calling, texting, taking pictures, listening to music, surfing HUKD & Facebook, playing Candy Crush etc... i.e. the things 95% of people tend to use their phones for. If you try to edit videos or run 20 applications at once you may struggle!! BE WARNED!! And ignore the snobs around here :wink:
preecey to gb1999
31 Dec 161#68
My comments are primarily aimed at making sure people get a decent experience out of their phones. The bottom line is - you simply cannot multitask properly on an Android device with 1GB. Listen to music and browse the web at the same time? Forget it. 2GB of RAM is essential for a fluid experience, fact.
However if people plan to do one thing at a time and don't intend to play the latest games, then yes, 1GB will suffice.
Iain815
1 Jan 17#69
No, sorry, but no. Listen to music? Yeah sure, if you only intend to stay within Google Play Music/Spotify and not have it run in the background, because I can guarantee you that the moment you leave it and start opening other apps it will stutter and crash. 1GB RAM on Android is a miserable experience. I've had numerous devices with 1 GB RAM and it struggles to multitask with the basic stuff at all. You'll be constantly reloading and even redrawing the home screen.
As we roll into 2017 you should stay clear of 1GB Android devices.
wyldwyvern
1 Jan 17#70
I have the g4 play, the nice looking white model, I have plenty of apps open in the background and while I don't game (far too small a screen for a proper gaming experience) I use my phone for a hell of a lot more than my iphone toting friends. So far no issues, yeah if I try and load up about 10-15 chrome tabs at the same time as spotify, one of them is gonna stall. But with a few tabs it's just fine. you are exaggerating and you know it. 1gb is fine, yes if you want to do even more, more ram is good, and yes it's futureproofing too, but sometimes it just isn't worth paying the extra cash for the privilege.
gb1999
1 Jan 171#71
I have a 1gb android phone and it runs music in the background just fine.... never had a single crash... and this is with a phone that's not as good a spec as the G4 and on marshmallow
With respect, your original comment states 1gb ram = epic fail, which is a massive over exaggeration...
redsnappa
1 Jan 17#72
And at my work place. We have 17 Asus netbooks with 1GB RAM running windows 10. Not super quick obviously but it works.
If you knew what you ware talking about you would know that gb should be GB because it is shortened form for Giga Bytes and ram should be RAM because it is an acronym. Also there should be no space before the question marks.
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1.2GHz quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
2GB RAM.
Operating system: Android android 6.0 (m)
Lollipop and Marshmallow just became stupidly bloated.
So if you can get it unlocked for less than £20 it's cheaper there
the ARGOS website states 2GB so I telephoned them and pointed out the error and had them do a search for Motorola XT 1604 which is the ref for this phone and I have just been given a 20% discount, they are sending a check out.
So I am quite happy with this for £80.
LOL.
Is android getting that inefficient it needs more. I see threads where people wet themselves over 3GB equipped phones.
With iOS, they only have to cater for about 6 devices (if you take iOS 10 for example which dropped all phones prior to 5C) so similar to game consoles, they are able to get more out of the hardware.
No one is saying Android won't run on 1gb, we are simply saying it won't be a pleasant experience and that there are other options for slightly more where the experience would be far greater.
The new Moto G is due out in March as well. Will make this look look ridiculous in comparison.
The P9 Lite, for just a few quid more from EE, is a far more capable device and won't make your hair fall out after five minutes of use.
1.2 Snapdragon Processor
2 GB Ram
16 GB Rom.
On the point of the P9 Lite, I can personally recommend this phone - few of my friends own it and I have had both the Honor 7 and Honor 8, both suberb phones that Huawei keep up to date. The P9 Lite is getting Android 7 in Q1 2017, there is a early build already available.
Common apps such as Facebook and Messenger which would no doubt be used on this phone use over 0.5gb when running, doesn't leave much left for the OS and other apps does it.
The G4 Play is a weak phone and the regular G4 should have had a major price drop by now, if the next model is coming out in 3 months.
Maybe if it was £50 it might be a decent deal.
My Android tablet, which has only 1GB of RAM, very frequently kills the music service when I'm browsing a slightly graphically intensive website at the same time. As a result I have to go back in to my music app and start playing the song again. Once I've done this, I then have to go back into Chrome and almost always find that Android has then also killed the tab of the website I was browsing, resulting in it having to reload.
So if you want to listen to music and browse websites at the same time, this phone is NOT for you!
Oh, and did I mention that Android phones/tablets with 1GB of RAM also suffer from launcher redraw issues? When my tablet kills my music app after browsing something too heavy in Chrome, I press the home button and almost always I have to wait around 5 seconds for Nova Launcher to reappear again.
Android + 1GB of RAM = Epic fail!
Android + 2GB of RAM = Minimum requirement for efficient multitasking
Android + 3GB of RAM = Enough to cater for highly intensive tasks in the background
Android + 4GB of RAM = Plenty
Paid 120.
Uk motorola are morons
1gb of RAM will be fine if you mainly use your phone for calling, texting, taking pictures, listening to music, surfing HUKD & Facebook, playing Candy Crush etc... i.e. the things 95% of people tend to use their phones for. If you try to edit videos or run 20 applications at once you may struggle!! BE WARNED!! And ignore the snobs around here :wink:
However if people plan to do one thing at a time and don't intend to play the latest games, then yes, 1GB will suffice.
As we roll into 2017 you should stay clear of 1GB Android devices.
With respect, your original comment states 1gb ram = epic fail, which is a massive over exaggeration...
If you knew what you ware talking about you would know that gb should be GB because it is shortened form for Giga Bytes and ram should be RAM because it is an acronym. Also there should be no space before the question marks.