Barebones Proliant tower server, 3.3GHz Pentium G4400, 4GB unbuffered ECC RAM. Model: 837826-421, There's a £60 cashback offer on UK stock - details here. Which ends Jan 31st 2017, Giving a final price of £89.57
2 x DisplayPort, 4 x USB 3.0 (rear), 2 x USB 2.0 (front), 1 x Gigabit Ethernet, 300W PSU, No hard disk, no optical drive. Main feature of interest is there are 6 x SATA ports. Faster CPUs (E3 Xeons) can be fitted.
I've checked with HPE promotions and Ballicom are an approved UK supplier. Reviews indicate this is a very basic tower box, room for 5+ HDDs (but may require extra hardware), but no drive cage.
**** Update 2016-12-22 09:53 - price now increased from £149.57 to £167.00 ...
**** Update 2016-12-23 21:10 - Installed Windows 10 onto my ML10, see details in comment #51
Top comments
BargainsMuchCheapness
22 Dec 168#44
A few people here seem to be toying with the idea of using this as a Windows desktop. Take my advice, don’t!
I bought 3 of these a year ago (2 for the office and 1 for home). I’ve had an absolute nightmare getting Windows onto them (though I hear it can be done).
The problem is firmware updates. Try as I might I couldn’t get it to recognise and install Windows from either an installation CD or mounted via USB as an ISO. The problem is firmware. You need the driver for the B120i RAID controller for the bios to recognise the hard drives and allow installation of Windows. I tried Windows 7, Windows 10 (both unsupported, but apparently it can be done), Windows Server 2012 (supported but just plain refused to recognise the drive and install). The stumbling block proved to be HP forcing you to take out a support agreement to get access to the driver you need, thus defeating the point of buying a low-cost file server. After several days (nay weeks) of troubleshooting I gave up and installed Linux. The machine is now an expensive paperweight though as despite being able to connect to the shared drives over SSH, they show as empty.
Unless:
1. You’re got some solid Windows Server experience or
2. Enjoy spending days scratching your head over endless technical gotchas or
3. Are going the Linux route
then I’d avoid the ML10 V2 like the absolute plague, cashback or no cashback.
If you want this for a media share or a low-cost desktop you’re far, far better off building a system around a low-cost Intel I3 and saving yourself a world of pain.
Oh, and if someone is lucky/skilled enough and managed to get Windows running on this box and knows what I'm talking about, please, please PM me. I've scoured the web but found no answers. :disappointed:
Hootwo
22 Dec 167#33
Oh stop it.
It has dual NICs, HPE iLO and ECC RAM. The clock speed is fine for small workloads and is upgradeable to Xeon E3 if needed. It supports Server 2012, Ubuntu, Red Hat and VMWare. That makes it a server in my book.
Of course you wouldn't host a big workload on it! It's a single-socket 4U tower server, good for remote sites and corporate branch offices running file/print, web messaging, and small vertical applications or databases.
It's also good for home labs, so you can prototype configs and bone up on install variants - review here
Excellent value for those of us on a tight budget - and it should be ok for basic home desktops as well - just normally these machines have customer motherboards, small PSUs and limited upgradeability, but I haven't looked closely so happy to be corrected.
Sf2rox
21 Dec 163#5
it still tickles me how they throw a celly in it and call it a server, thats just all kinds of wrong!
If the cashback works out this would make a pretty decent multi purpose machine for poostorm money.
Add some ram and a 460/1050 and someones got an half decent christmas present.
Have some heat
All comments (67)
hennerz
21 Dec 16#1
Anyone know how this compares to the HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen8?
peeej1978 to hennerz
21 Dec 161#2
this is better. :wink:
cjed to hennerz
21 Dec 16#3
It has a more powerful CPU (and can be upgraded to take a standard E3 Xeon), more SATA ports, more RAM capacity (can take up to 64GB) and more space inside. However, the Microserver has a proper disk cage (so it's easier to replace disks) and has full ILO support (the ML10 Gen9 doesn't). Nothing to choose in terms of idle power consumption.
OrribleHarry to hennerz
22 Dec 16#31
This is better but bigger. If you don't mind the size the Dell T20 deal is better.
Daaaavvveee
21 Dec 16#4
I have a Microserver G9 but tempted to change!
Sf2rox
21 Dec 163#5
it still tickles me how they throw a celly in it and call it a server, thats just all kinds of wrong!
If the cashback works out this would make a pretty decent multi purpose machine for poostorm money.
Add some ram and a 460/1050 and someones got an half decent christmas present.
Have some heat
technodai to Sf2rox
21 Dec 16#12
I'm kind of confused about that actually.... I've been looking at refurbished towers because I need something with a little but of grunt but don't have much cash... What's the difference between a server and a regular desktop? Could I use this as a regular desktop?
juux
21 Dec 162#6
Must. Resist. Buying. Another.
ActionHank
21 Dec 16#7
Does ML10 unofficially supports non-ecc RAM like Dell T20 or Lenovo TS140?
DAZZ2000 to ActionHank
21 Dec 161#9
You can use either usually. ECC is preferred.
DAZZ2000
21 Dec 16#8
It's a good price so heat from me. I'd personally stick to a Xeon based ML10 though.
In fact I've 3 of the previous gen ML10s with ECC memory and half decent 7200rpm drives - they make great VMWare servers.
Hunkerdown
21 Dec 16#10
cheap
cjed
21 Dec 161#11
Adding your own E3 1200 V5 CPU will add another £200+ to the price - still cheaper than buying the HPE Xeon equipped ML10s though you will lose your warranty.
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2 x DisplayPort, 4 x USB 3.0 (rear), 2 x USB 2.0 (front), 1 x Gigabit Ethernet, 300W PSU, No hard disk, no optical drive. Main feature of interest is there are 6 x SATA ports. Faster CPUs (E3 Xeons) can be fitted.
I've checked with HPE promotions and Ballicom are an approved UK supplier. Reviews indicate this is a very basic tower box, room for 5+ HDDs (but may require extra hardware), but no drive cage.
**** Update 2016-12-22 09:53 - price now increased from £149.57 to £167.00 ...
**** Update 2016-12-23 21:10 - Installed Windows 10 onto my ML10, see details in comment #51
Top comments
I bought 3 of these a year ago (2 for the office and 1 for home). I’ve had an absolute nightmare getting Windows onto them (though I hear it can be done).
The problem is firmware updates. Try as I might I couldn’t get it to recognise and install Windows from either an installation CD or mounted via USB as an ISO. The problem is firmware. You need the driver for the B120i RAID controller for the bios to recognise the hard drives and allow installation of Windows. I tried Windows 7, Windows 10 (both unsupported, but apparently it can be done), Windows Server 2012 (supported but just plain refused to recognise the drive and install). The stumbling block proved to be HP forcing you to take out a support agreement to get access to the driver you need, thus defeating the point of buying a low-cost file server. After several days (nay weeks) of troubleshooting I gave up and installed Linux. The machine is now an expensive paperweight though as despite being able to connect to the shared drives over SSH, they show as empty.
Unless:
1. You’re got some solid Windows Server experience or
2. Enjoy spending days scratching your head over endless technical gotchas or
3. Are going the Linux route
then I’d avoid the ML10 V2 like the absolute plague, cashback or no cashback.
If you want this for a media share or a low-cost desktop you’re far, far better off building a system around a low-cost Intel I3 and saving yourself a world of pain.
Oh, and if someone is lucky/skilled enough and managed to get Windows running on this box and knows what I'm talking about, please, please PM me. I've scoured the web but found no answers. :disappointed:
It has dual NICs, HPE iLO and ECC RAM. The clock speed is fine for small workloads and is upgradeable to Xeon E3 if needed. It supports Server 2012, Ubuntu, Red Hat and VMWare. That makes it a server in my book.
Of course you wouldn't host a big workload on it! It's a single-socket 4U tower server, good for remote sites and corporate branch offices running file/print, web messaging, and small vertical applications or databases.
It's also good for home labs, so you can prototype configs and bone up on install variants - review here
Excellent value for those of us on a tight budget - and it should be ok for basic home desktops as well - just normally these machines have customer motherboards, small PSUs and limited upgradeability, but I haven't looked closely so happy to be corrected.
If the cashback works out this would make a pretty decent multi purpose machine for poostorm money.
Add some ram and a 460/1050 and someones got an half decent christmas present.
Have some heat
All comments (67)
If the cashback works out this would make a pretty decent multi purpose machine for poostorm money.
Add some ram and a 460/1050 and someones got an half decent christmas present.
Have some heat
In fact I've 3 of the previous gen ML10s with ECC memory and half decent 7200rpm drives - they make great VMWare servers.