Maybe not the best nas but not bad for a 4 tb
£22.50 per tb
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tinca to Al666
13 Nov 169#8
4 tb
HankHandsome
13 Nov 168#5
anything is removable with the right mindset :wink:
i can't imagine this would be too much hassle though - they wouldn't seal the drive inside the unit.
SleepyChris
13 Nov 164#14
Hot if it doesn't contain a Seagate HDD. Had nothing but trouble with them myself and very often when customer machines die there's a dead seagate at fault.
JustExtreme
13 Nov 163#19
No but it will fit everybody else's.
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HankHandsome
13 Nov 161#1
considering the price for a 4TB WD Red NAS drive is £142 quid on ebuyer, this would be worth buying just to pull the drive out and use in something else. heated for that at least.
Whizzey to HankHandsome
13 Nov 16#2
Is this definitely removable?
Hot eitherway
SackCity to HankHandsome
14 Nov 16#47
Yeah but we don't know what HDD model is in here right? The WD Red is specifically for NAS drives that's why it's so expensive.
quidstretchy
13 Nov 162#3
Will it fit in a PS4?
There, somebody was going to say it. I will save them the embarrassment.
You're welcome
ubruk to quidstretchy
13 Nov 161#4
Will it fit my Xbox one? :smiley:
tom_gov to quidstretchy
13 Nov 16#25
yes i got this a month back works fine in ps4 slim
HankHandsome
13 Nov 168#5
anything is removable with the right mindset :wink:
i can't imagine this would be too much hassle though - they wouldn't seal the drive inside the unit.
IronGlaive
13 Nov 161#6
Unlikely it will work in any consoles. But very good price for the capacity, but its very large and people report the drive failing just outside of warranty. So I will not vote on this one.
amour3k to IronGlaive
17 Nov 16#56
That comment is actually quite worrying/disturbing?!, hmmmmmmmmmmmm. :-(
Are you very sure? (genuine question, as I'm none the wiser either way?). :-)
Al666
13 Nov 16#7
Anyone know what disk is in it?
tinca to Al666
13 Nov 169#8
4 tb
intranix to Al666
13 Nov 16#12
it'll be a model that's at least 3 years old as that's how long this 4TB model has been on the market (longer).
cburns
13 Nov 16#9
A big un...then :wink:
slipd
13 Nov 162#10
I'm holding on till Black Friday to see what 'large' drive deals it throws up. It's usually good for that :stuck_out_tongue:
Heated for this OP!
Al666
13 Nov 161#11
I meant which model . . .
ourdave
13 Nov 163#13
Why has this not gone scorching?
It's not just a 4TB drive...it's a NAS, accessible remotely, streams DLNA...awesome deal.
Tequila to ourdave
13 Nov 16#39
in theory yeah..but if you read the reviews..there are so many issues..so hit and miss..and way too slow..not saying it's a bad deal..but you should know what you are getting is far from perfect.same applied to WD My cloud series.
SleepyChris
13 Nov 164#14
Hot if it doesn't contain a Seagate HDD. Had nothing but trouble with them myself and very often when customer machines die there's a dead seagate at fault.
simba75
13 Nov 16#15
Tempted with is a looking for something to back my home server up to.. But the Amazon reviews are little sketchy
verysleepy
13 Nov 16#16
Terrible reviews
freebiehunter
13 Nov 16#17
This briefly changed to £74.99 a moment ago!!
Musicrab to freebiehunter
13 Nov 16#20
That's the without VAT price :-)
wiccajojo
13 Nov 161#18
If it's not *conventionally* removable, I'm sure a few taps with a sledgehammer and chisel would do the trick :stuck_out_tongue:
It's a great price for the disk alone, let alone the added features. It's a lot of data to loose though if it fails.
Musicrab to intercake
13 Nov 162#23
Buy 2?
SlightlyFoxed
13 Nov 16#24
That's only useful if the drive inside has a SATA interface - more and more portable drives have a USB3 port integrated instead of a SATA interface. Having said that, it's mainly 2.5" USB connectable HDDs that are like that - anything designed for NAS/ethernet connection is more likey to contain a standard HDD.
Either way, £90 for 4TB is not to be sniffed at. Hot!
MrStorm
13 Nov 162#26
£12 delivery charge to Northern Ireland, Scottish Highlands and pretty much anywhere else more than spitting distance from their depot.
They lost themselves a sale with that one.
Criptop to MrStorm
13 Nov 161#32
It's so annoying! Thank goodness for Royal Mail and the Universal Service :smiley:
sach1636
13 Nov 16#27
I am waiting for good QNAP deal. May be worth buying this for hard disk alone if someone confirms it is easy to take HDD out (and unit does not encrypt data which might avoid QNAP reading it again).
wdh
13 Nov 162#28
Important to note that this is a NAS unit, not immediately usable as an external usb drive.
It does have a usb port, but that is for attaching an additional external drive to the NAS - not connecting this box to a computer!
The user guide (linked from that Staples page) doesn't mention the ability to mirror to an external drive. So the all the eggs do into the one basket!
However, any backup is much better than no backup! Not so sure I'd want to use it as an un-backed-up content server though ...
The guide also mentioned that recently uploaded content doesn't show up in the space utilisation data immediately "because it is cached". If true, that's the sort of thing that would have me worrying about the need for an uninterruptible (maybe dual) power supply. But as a simple better-than-nothing 4Tb 'backup machine' only, it still looks pretty cheap.
Haven't spotted what the power consumption might be - which does matter if you were thinking of running it 24/7.
It has no fan, so makes little noise, but running hotter makes electronics less reliable.
I was able to connect it directly via the ethernet port and use it as a backup drive when not using it as a NAS even though the pictorial instruction says otherwise. Power consumption is 10W and there is always an audible hum when on.
sach1636
13 Nov 161#33
ordered one. Wondering if it makes sense to buy these for hard drive alone and then use these in QNAP.
ozzmosiz
13 Nov 16#34
i havethe 2tb version of this and found wireless streaming to my TV would sometimes not show the picture. however same copy of files directly from a USB attached drive worked fine.
also thr disk is slow and accessing files remotely painfully slow.
cwilkie76
13 Nov 16#35
No it's showing as £74.99 for me, inc VAT. I've a screenshot but can't upload it.
qianjizhao
13 Nov 16#36
How? I just paid £89.99.
Matt J
13 Nov 16#37
You're right, but be a little cautious of proprietary connectors/interfaces on the drive itself - I've seen this before in the portable 2.5" WD passport drives.
bobbler
13 Nov 16#38
It's not, it's £74.99 EX VAT, 89.99 INC VAT.
omgpleasespamme
13 Nov 16#40
Anyone know exactly what drives are inside this? I'd like to buy a couple for my Drobo if they're NAS drives.
Yaradabbadoo to omgpleasespamme
13 Nov 161#42
In the tear down video it shows a Surveillance grade drive its a good price (you can buy the drive new for 40 quid more with a 3 year warranty), but you wont get ANY warranty if you remove the drive and its also a Seagate - so its not for me.
aaronlovesfood
13 Nov 16#41
Pure and utter **** :smile:
George109
14 Nov 161#44
On looking at the dimensions, and this teardown video I think it's likely to be a Seagate Pipeline 3.5 inch hard drive in there so it will NOT fit in most laptops.
Note: I am not 100% certain about the model in the 4TB one, but it's almost certainly a 3.5" from the dimensions given on the offer page.
Note this is the 2TB version but BT shop have a 4TB version that is £129.99
So this is a good deal just for the internal drive, but you won't have a warranty.
Screenshot from the video:
tigger80
14 Nov 16#45
i orderd one, the price of HDDs have been going up rather than down
doveman007
14 Nov 16#46
Reading the reviews on Amazon there seems to be quite a few reports of failures after six months to a year, so I think I'll give this a miss as I'd only have to buy another more expensive 4TB HDD to ensure it was backed up.
I think I'd rather get a 2TB USB 3 bus powered HDD for about the same price, as it will be faster to transfer files and where possible I prefer to keep drives external to my PC and disconnected when not needed so that a) they're not vulnerable in case of lightening strike, etc. which takes out the main drives and b) I can easily transport them to mirror them to an offsite backup in case someone breaks into my house and nicks all my drives!
I am kinda interested in having a NAS but it doesn't really seem worth the hassle of the issues with cheap units like this or worth the cost of better units, as my PC is on most of the time anyway (running Hanewin NFS) and my Raspberry Pi wakes it from standby if necessary.
HankHandsome
14 Nov 16#48
If any of the teardown videos of the 2TB models are anything to go by, this model is very likely to be a 4TB Pipeline.
Glad I didn't buy straight away, found an email had arrived from Quidco "Your bonus has arrived". An extra £10 off any purchase.
So hopefully the £10 plus 8% will track correctly and cost will be down to £72.79.
I have a 4 x 4 nas already so this unit will serve nicely as a secondary backup for crucial files, actually might be a tertiary version.
wdh
14 Nov 16#50
"Connecting directly via the ethernet port" is still establishing a network connection to the thing. Being that the box is gigabit ethernet (and presumably your pc is at least 100), one could connect with a single standard cable and no hub - but it is still a network connection, using network protocols. My point was to highlight that, though the box does have a usb port, you cannot connect a computer to use this box as a standard external usb drive.
Regarding the drive within, those who followed the Register link that I posted about the NAS system (not the actual drive) failing, would have read that late 2014 post as documenting a Seagate Barracuda 4gb being fitted to that particular unit purchased 18 months before.
However, I think it would be unreasonable to expect any single model (or version) of a drive to be used inside a unit that has been on the market for what is a rather extended time ...
qianjizhao
14 Nov 16#51
All gone now. The 4TB version page is offline.
darthvader666uk
14 Nov 16#52
as much as a deal this is, my 2tb version of this lasted just over 2 years :/
mickael28
17 Nov 16#53
I was looking for something similar, but with possibility to connect directly to my PD via USB 3 as well. Does anyone know a model with such a port?
Basically, I'd like to transfer a large amount of data from my PC 1st (around 3TB) and the ultrabook doesn't have network card, and I think wifi would take too long or could cause some issue with that large amount of small files, and I'd like to keep the backup sync after on a regular basis.
Once that's done, I'd like to be able to share a specific folder over the internet for external access, so if a model with USB 3 supports that, I'd be quite interested to know the model to have a look pls...
Cheers!!
walio to mickael28
19 Nov 16#60
has anyone's arrived yet? Mine still showing as processing and it has been ordered on 14th. You could get USB Network card for that purpose. Will only cost a few pounds.
amour3k
17 Nov 16#54
On a similar note, I various/multiple Portable Hard Drives, splitting many Terra Bytes of amongst all of them!.
I can't justify the purchase of this one TOO!.
But I DEFINITELY WANT ONE!!!, hehehehehe. :-)
amour3k
17 Nov 161#55
That's a very good suggestion actually?!.
There's only less than 2 weeks in it?, I may just end up doing the same .....
IronGlaive
17 Nov 16#57
I read the reviews on Amazon and just googled generally. I cannot say from experience though. I was pretty tempted to grab one myself, but decided not to. Also it looks to be quite big /I prefer the vertical standing ones for space.
What put me off is the large number of rather negative to mediocre reviews.
amour3k
17 Nov 16#58
I get you, thanx for that. :-)
amour3k
17 Nov 16#59
Is your beast still working after 1 year+ then?.
Or is it more rather in-line with this comment instead perhaps:
And if this rather be the case?, then .....
johnbob
19 Nov 16#61
Same story here. I just spoke to the support team via text chat and it's been backordered. No word on if or when they'll get more in, and seeing as there's a newer Seagate NAS on sale and the listing no longer exists on the Staples site, I'd say it was EOL. The guy said to get in touch on Monday so they can investigate further.
Just annoying that a) the order tracker doesn't work for guests, so I can't check my order status, b) there wasn't an update emailed out to say what's going on and c) that their site allows for them to take more orders than they can fulfill at that time. My order was placed on the 13th, so if I'm out of luck, then...
nick1austin
19 Nov 16#62
You're not missing much. Order tracker says:
Ships directly from our vendor : Ordered
Expected Delivery: Not yet Available.
Whirly
22 Nov 16#63
My order was cancelled and they offered a 4tb USB drive as a replacement.
Goose14
23 Nov 16#64
They just cancelled mine and didn't offer any replacement :disappointed:
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£22.50 per tb
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i can't imagine this would be too much hassle though - they wouldn't seal the drive inside the unit.
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Hot eitherway
There, somebody was going to say it. I will save them the embarrassment.
You're welcome
i can't imagine this would be too much hassle though - they wouldn't seal the drive inside the unit.
Are you very sure? (genuine question, as I'm none the wiser either way?). :-)
Heated for this OP!
It's not just a 4TB drive...it's a NAS, accessible remotely, streams DLNA...awesome deal.
Either way, £90 for 4TB is not to be sniffed at. Hot!
They lost themselves a sale with that one.
It does have a usb port, but that is for attaching an additional external drive to the NAS - not connecting this box to a computer!
The user guide (linked from that Staples page) doesn't mention the ability to mirror to an external drive. So the all the eggs do into the one basket!
However, any backup is much better than no backup! Not so sure I'd want to use it as an un-backed-up content server though ...
The guide also mentioned that recently uploaded content doesn't show up in the space utilisation data immediately "because it is cached". If true, that's the sort of thing that would have me worrying about the need for an uninterruptible (maybe dual) power supply.
But as a simple better-than-nothing 4Tb 'backup machine' only, it still looks pretty cheap.
Haven't spotted what the power consumption might be - which does matter if you were thinking of running it 24/7.
It has no fan, so makes little noise, but running hotter makes electronics less reliable.
Oh, and The Reg documents the woes if/when the thing fails ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/the_cloud_that_goes_puff_seagate_central_home_nas_woes/
I was able to connect it directly via the ethernet port and use it as a backup drive when not using it as a NAS even though the pictorial instruction says otherwise. Power consumption is 10W and there is always an audible hum when on.
also thr disk is slow and accessing files remotely painfully slow.
Note: I am not 100% certain about the model in the 4TB one, but it's almost certainly a 3.5" from the dimensions given on the offer page.
Note this is the 2TB version but BT shop have a 4TB version that is £129.99
So this is a good deal just for the internal drive, but you won't have a warranty.
Screenshot from the video:
I think I'd rather get a 2TB USB 3 bus powered HDD for about the same price, as it will be faster to transfer files and where possible I prefer to keep drives external to my PC and disconnected when not needed so that a) they're not vulnerable in case of lightening strike, etc. which takes out the main drives and b) I can easily transport them to mirror them to an offsite backup in case someone breaks into my house and nicks all my drives!
I am kinda interested in having a NAS but it doesn't really seem worth the hassle of the issues with cheap units like this or worth the cost of better units, as my PC is on most of the time anyway (running Hanewin NFS) and my Raspberry Pi wakes it from standby if necessary.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/32109-seagate-central-reviewed
So hopefully the £10 plus 8% will track correctly and cost will be down to £72.79.
I have a 4 x 4 nas already so this unit will serve nicely as a secondary backup for crucial files, actually might be a tertiary version.
My point was to highlight that, though the box does have a usb port, you cannot connect a computer to use this box as a standard external usb drive.
Regarding the drive within, those who followed the Register link that I posted about the NAS system (not the actual drive) failing, would have read that late 2014 post as documenting a Seagate Barracuda 4gb being fitted to that particular unit purchased 18 months before.
However, I think it would be unreasonable to expect any single model (or version) of a drive to be used inside a unit that has been on the market for what is a rather extended time ...
Basically, I'd like to transfer a large amount of data from my PC 1st (around 3TB) and the ultrabook doesn't have network card, and I think wifi would take too long or could cause some issue with that large amount of small files, and I'd like to keep the backup sync after on a regular basis.
Once that's done, I'd like to be able to share a specific folder over the internet for external access, so if a model with USB 3 supports that, I'd be quite interested to know the model to have a look pls...
Cheers!!
You could get USB Network card for that purpose. Will only cost a few pounds.
I can't justify the purchase of this one TOO!.
But I DEFINITELY WANT ONE!!!, hehehehehe. :-)
There's only less than 2 weeks in it?, I may just end up doing the same .....
This is what I found (I assume it is the same one as it looks to be): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Central-Personal-Network-Attached/dp/B00BP5RKIE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1479407091&sr=8-7&keywords=Seagate+4TB+NAS
What put me off is the large number of rather negative to mediocre reviews.
Or is it more rather in-line with this comment instead perhaps:
And if this rather be the case?, then .....
Just annoying that a) the order tracker doesn't work for guests, so I can't check my order status, b) there wasn't an update emailed out to say what's going on and c) that their site allows for them to take more orders than they can fulfill at that time. My order was placed on the 13th, so if I'm out of luck, then...
Ships directly from our vendor : Ordered
Expected Delivery: Not yet Available.