If you have ever tried looking for a Full HD laptop with an IPS screen you will realise what a great deal this is. Most laptops have useless screens that fade out or invert colours when you tilt them. IPS doesn't do that. It's sharp and colour accurate from any angle.
On top of that, it's not just the usual 1366x768... it's FULL HD! 1920x1080! 1080p!!!
The CPU scores a usable 1475 on cpubenchmark, which is better than the older celerons that score under 1000. For comparison, an i3 will score 2500+.
It's only got 32GB solid state storage (eMMC), but there's a hard drive bay to expand! Even with an eMMC (a cheaper version of an SSD) the CPU won't feel so slow, booting up and launching apps will be quicker than an i5 with an old spinning hard drive!
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LetoKynes to Broadsands
17 Nov 169#10
A potato
Joe90_guy
17 Nov 164#18
Bought this very laptop for the wife about four months ago. Here's the HUKD post I put up...
I fitted it with a 500 GB HDD and between it and the 32 GB eMMC, it's been a wonderful little machine. My wife uses it for photo editing and it works a treat. I'd highly recommend this cheap little laptop.
Oh, and all that stuff about Medions being unreliable? All I can say is that my Medion P6620 laptop that I bought from Aldi in 2009 is still in full working order. Have some people had problems? Probably yes but so have people who have bought Dells & Macs and they probably paid a lot more than £185!
Luke2642
17 Nov 163#12
You folk are hilarious. It's £186 delivered. Find me another laptop with a 14" or bigger IPS Full HD screen for under £500. That's the reason I listed it!!!!
Yeah it says eMMC but there's a drive bay do you could easy do an SSD upgrade
hcc27 to PhoenixRising
21 Nov 16#50
You're spot on. Any netbook-type lappie with 32GB sold today will come with soldered-on eMMC. Having said that, it will still be an order of magnitude faster compared to any mechanical drive. Apart from the tiny size, the other downside is eMMCs are not user upgradeable unlike SSDs. I own a Lenovo Ideapad 100S with a 32GB SSD and an Intel Atom quad core processor - hardly any specs to shout about - however it runs Windows 10 fine, MS Office well, no issues with HD video, YouTube HD, Spotify etc. Boots up from cold in 10 sec, and I've got around the storage limitation with a 128GB SD card.
AndyRoyd
17 Nov 16#2
I'm seeing £185.95 delivered, not £179. Wasn't there once an option to gain uncharged delivery via accepting a deluge of Medion emails?
Luke2642 to AndyRoyd
17 Nov 16#16
Thanks, price updated.
Shaker
17 Nov 161#3
I don't understand this
Windows 10 Home preinstalled - improved start menu, new features, fast performance, safe and easy making it the ideal system for office, multimedia applications and games of all kinds. Installed on the 128GB SSD - Windows 10 Home starts in seconds!
I thought the HD was 32gb but surely 32gb would only just about cover WIN10 and the other installed software
Bendown
17 Nov 161#4
Hard drive bay so can add second drive
TesseractOrion
17 Nov 16#5
I think the 128GiB SSD is deffo a misprint and the "hard drive" is actually just 32GiB eMMC. Can't expect more at this price, wouldn't really call it a laptop as such, maybe netbook or tablet with keyboard?
freebiehunter
17 Nov 161#6
Median build quality is extremely poor - especially on the lower end models.. just a heads up as the majority that I have for clients end up being returned with various faults. They use a uk call centre for returns but everything goes back to Germany.. and they have a habit of failing to repair and leaving the end user to then try and sort it with the retailer. You can probably tell I'm not a Medion fan
Bendown to freebiehunter
17 Nov 161#7
My findings as well
claire7519 to freebiehunter
17 Nov 16#20
Just had my Lenovo PC that was out of warranty repaired by Medion, sent to Germany so it took about 2 weeks but it was very cheap & it works again. Just thought I'd give everyone evidence of a good review lol
MBeeching
17 Nov 161#8
The 128gb eMMC models get 150mb read / 55mb write speeds, presumably this smaller drive will fare worse.
32gb is going to cause issues, major Windows updates may fail due to lack of space as it creates a backup copy for rollbacks.
supermann to MBeeching
18 Nov 161#38
I havd an N22 Lenovo chromebook with an emmc and it's quite slow. J mean okay it only has 2gb of ram but I was surprised how slow the emmc was as I expected to be more like an ssd in terms of performance than a hdd.
Broadsands
17 Nov 162#9
This or a 128GB Surface Pro 4?
LetoKynes to Broadsands
17 Nov 169#10
A potato
Itsabargain69
17 Nov 163#11
this or the macbook air
Luke2642 to Itsabargain69
17 Nov 162#13
Does macbook air have a full HD ips screen? NOPE. 1440x900. TN Panel. Tilt it and it goes all milky!
1lluminati to Itsabargain69
18 Nov 16#27
what? the price of a Macbook Air isn't anywhere close to this.
ollie87 to Itsabargain69
18 Nov 16#41
Not really in the same category or price range
Luke2642
17 Nov 163#12
You folk are hilarious. It's £186 delivered. Find me another laptop with a 14" or bigger IPS Full HD screen for under £500. That's the reason I listed it!!!!
So I still think this is a good deal, but if you can stretch to £300 this is definitely better, and has an equally good (if shiny) screen, and better specs and build quality all round:
I fitted it with a 500 GB HDD and between it and the 32 GB eMMC, it's been a wonderful little machine. My wife uses it for photo editing and it works a treat. I'd highly recommend this cheap little laptop.
Oh, and all that stuff about Medions being unreliable? All I can say is that my Medion P6620 laptop that I bought from Aldi in 2009 is still in full working order. Have some people had problems? Probably yes but so have people who have bought Dells & Macs and they probably paid a lot more than £185!
Pondlife
17 Nov 16#19
Aside from the 32gb emmc the 2gb ram is pretty restrictive. They aren't clear but seems unlikely it'll be upgradeable.
Pondlife
17 Nov 16#21
That it needed to be repaired doesn't speak glowingly about build quality though.
Brianliptov
17 Nov 16#22
I've a medium touch screen 15.6" laptop for 18 months and never had a problem with it.
westernsmith
18 Nov 16#23
I don't suppose anyone knows if this will take more ram? The description mentions the 2gb being in a slot, so I'm hoping for at least 1 slot in there. 4 or 8gb of ram + an ssd and this would be perfect for me.
sam_of_london
18 Nov 16#24
I have never seen any laptop where the ram cannot be upgraded. Even with single slot it can have 8gb ram at least. But most laptops have two slots and can have upto 16gb. But the worst part of this laptop is soldered Celeron cpu which cannot be upgraded. Intel basically cripples Celeron cpus to make them cheaper. Over the years I have learned not to buy laptops with soldered cpus as they cannot be upgraded. In a laptop with unsoldered cpu, it is very easy to upgrade cpu to latest processor from ebay as laptops keep on breaking and people salvage parts to sell on eBay and computer exchange etc.
jazzuk777 to sam_of_london
18 Nov 16#26
Some of the smaller netbook type laptops have soldered RAM and cannot be upgraded, not all but certainly some.
1lluminati to sam_of_london
18 Nov 16#28
All laptops will come with soldered BGA CPUs now.
Joe90_guy
18 Nov 16#25
To those folks who were asking about adding more memory to this machine, we're away at the moment so can't definitively check the back of the laptop to see if there's access to the RAM slot. However I seem to recollect watching someone doing exactly this on Youtube (it might have been in German?). In my experience, Medion laptops are usually very easy to work on and are designed with access in mind (unlike my old Dell which was a total pain to upgrade!).
I also see you can buy a 8GB memory module for the S4219 on Amazon. This would suggest that you can do the upgrade. Here's the link...
Apart from the overheating problems, no ssd slot and fixed ram. If you're happy sorting out the heating issues, it looks good for what it is. (it's on my list of maybes, if I don't push to something more powerful)
Cannyman
18 Nov 16#31
If I add a standard 2.5 inch laptop hard drive, can I install and run programmes like Microsoft word and Spotify from it?
Joe90_guy to Cannyman
18 Nov 16#32
The wife has LibreOffice on her's. It seems fast enough. Spotify I can't say for sure but it seems like even the most basic smartphone can handle it so I suspect this laptop would do too.
Regarding the 2 GB being too small, isn't one of the purported advantages of Windows 10 supposed to be that it works fine with less RAM?
Cannyman to Cannyman
18 Nov 16#33
I mean can you run programmes from the hard drive or do they need to be installed on the 32 GB eMMC?
Cannyman
18 Nov 16#34
Can you run programmes from the HDD or do they only run from eMMC storage?
Joe90_guy
18 Nov 16#35
They can run from the HDD. TBH, the only thing you need on the eMMC/SSD is Windows itself with boots up very quickly.
Picard123
18 Nov 16#36
This laptop is dog slow.
stemac23
18 Nov 16#37
For the money I think it's a cracking little laptop! It will do for basic internet browsing, storing photos with an extra HDD... heat from me!
MBeeching
18 Nov 16#39
Yeah it's certainly not quick storage, my mechanical drive has much faster sequentials (200mb read/write).
eMMC storage is similar to USB 3.0 pen drives which cost a tenner.
plewis00
18 Nov 16#40
It is basically the same technology as a USB drive or microSD (single channel, basic controller) but the access latency is lower so it feels snappier much of the time compared to a mechanical disk, especially if you are trying to do simultaneous ops. Definitely wouldn't be my choice of drive though.
eyaz12
18 Nov 161#42
Don't buy a Medion laptop.
dijital to eyaz12
18 Nov 16#44
Had one for a few years about 6 years ago, never had a problem with it.
dijital
18 Nov 161#43
Bloody awful processor, even for the price.
Picard123
18 Nov 16#45
Build quality of these low end Medions is terrible.
Avoid.
Anonknowmouse
18 Nov 16#47
I've noticed and read that Win 10 doesn't hog memory or cpu as much as Win 7, and it boots a bit faster. Even so most people will need 4gb to guarantee no slowdowns. Even my phone sometimes uses 1.6gb!
Shouldbeworking
19 Nov 16#48
Noticed this one a couple of weeks back, the only thing that put me off was a couple of German reviews stating there is some bad PWM flicker when the brightness is turned down or when it's running off the AC adapter, anyone who has this care to offer there opinion?
The curry's one doesn't have an IPS screen, but does have 4Gb RAM.
Pondlife
22 Nov 16#52
It also isn't a FHD screen.
lutin
23 Nov 16#53
Yep, it definitely has a better screen.
elitom
25 Nov 16#54
price drop by a tenner
for office and internet not a bad deal IMHO
ordered
EliTom
jazzuk777
25 Nov 16#55
Has this DEFINITELY got a second bay for an expansion drive?
Joe90_guy to jazzuk777
26 Nov 161#56
Yes, DEFINITELY! You just take out the small screw in the middle of the base and out plops a 2.5" drive caddy with a standard SATA connector. I put in a 500 GB HDD but you could just as easily add a 'proper' SSD. TBH, for such a lowly machine I though a second SSD was a bit overkill. The machine already boots up very quickly from the 32 GB eMMC so why bother. As I recall you have to do something in Windows 10 so that it recognises the extra drive. I can't remember exactly what I did but it was very quick & easy.
This was a nice deal in the first place. With the extra tenner off, it's very good so get it now. With inflation imminent, you may never see kit like this at this price ever again.
westernsmith
28 Nov 16#57
I don't suppose you know if there's room for more ram? Either an extra slot, or swapping out the 2gb for 4?
Joe90_guy
28 Nov 16#58
I'm away from home at the moment. When I get back next week, I'll check and post up what I find.
I went for the similar Asus 32GB laptop for someone due to the reliability record of Asus vs. Medion and they won't mind about the lack of 1080P. Have added an SSD in the drive bay - anyone got tips, preferably a guide on how to set up Win10 on the SSD instead of the eMMC to improve performance, using the original activation key? TiA
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On top of that, it's not just the usual 1366x768... it's FULL HD! 1920x1080! 1080p!!!
The CPU scores a usable 1475 on cpubenchmark, which is better than the older celerons that score under 1000. For comparison, an i3 will score 2500+.
It's only got 32GB solid state storage (eMMC), but there's a hard drive bay to expand! Even with an eMMC (a cheaper version of an SSD) the CPU won't feel so slow, booting up and launching apps will be quicker than an i5 with an old spinning hard drive!
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http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/medion-14-laptop-with-1080p-screen-179-medion-shop-2466882
I fitted it with a 500 GB HDD and between it and the 32 GB eMMC, it's been a wonderful little machine. My wife uses it for photo editing and it works a treat. I'd highly recommend this cheap little laptop.
Oh, and all that stuff about Medions being unreliable? All I can say is that my Medion P6620 laptop that I bought from Aldi in 2009 is still in full working order. Have some people had problems? Probably yes but so have people who have bought Dells & Macs and they probably paid a lot more than £185!
Nearest alternative, £299:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-510-15-6-laptop-black-10146128-pdt.html?awc=1598_1479409189_a3111808534f2503b662a259c0c8c185&srcid=369&xtor=AL-11&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities%20%26%20UGC~47868&istCompanyId=9a35962d-802d-4e67-9721-0a3328ca1f02&istItemId=qqpxmxaa&istBid=t&awid=47868
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https://www.conrad.de/de/medion-akoya-s4219-356-cm-14-zoll-notebook-intel-pentium-2-gb-32-gb-emmc-windows-10-home-1486055.html
Windows 10 Home preinstalled - improved start menu, new features, fast performance, safe and easy making it the ideal system for office, multimedia applications and games of all kinds. Installed on the 128GB SSD - Windows 10 Home starts in seconds!
I thought the HD was 32gb but surely 32gb would only just about cover WIN10 and the other installed software
32gb is going to cause issues, major Windows updates may fail due to lack of space as it creates a backup copy for rollbacks.
Nearest alternative, £299:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-510-15-6-laptop-black-10146128-pdt.html?awc=1598_1479409189_a3111808534f2503b662a259c0c8c185&srcid=369&xtor=AL-11&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities%20%26%20UGC~47868&istCompanyId=9a35962d-802d-4e67-9721-0a3328ca1f02&istItemId=qqpxmxaa&istBid=t&awid=47868
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-510-15-6-laptop-black-10146128-pdt.html?awc=1598_1479409189_a3111808534f2503b662a259c0c8c185&srcid=369&xtor=AL-11&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities%20%26%20UGC~47868&istCompanyId=9a35962d-802d-4e67-9721-0a3328ca1f02&istItemId=qqpxmxaa&istBid=t&awid=47868
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/medion-14-laptop-with-1080p-screen-179-medion-shop-2466882
I fitted it with a 500 GB HDD and between it and the 32 GB eMMC, it's been a wonderful little machine. My wife uses it for photo editing and it works a treat. I'd highly recommend this cheap little laptop.
Oh, and all that stuff about Medions being unreliable? All I can say is that my Medion P6620 laptop that I bought from Aldi in 2009 is still in full working order. Have some people had problems? Probably yes but so have people who have bought Dells & Macs and they probably paid a lot more than £185!
I also see you can buy a 8GB memory module for the S4219 on Amazon. This would suggest that you can do the upgrade. Here's the link...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/memory-Medion-Akoya-S4219-1600MHz/dp/B01LWQ0KUF
https://www.amazon.co.uk/memory-Medion-Akoya-S4219-1600MHz/dp/B01LWQ0KUF
http://m.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_356746.html?utm_source=shareasale&utm_medium=shareasale&utm_campaign=shareasale
Regarding the 2 GB being too small, isn't one of the purported advantages of Windows 10 supposed to be that it works fine with less RAM?
eMMC storage is similar to USB 3.0 pen drives which cost a tenner.
Avoid.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-stream-14-ax050sa-14-laptop-blue-10152504-pdt.html
The curry's one doesn't have an IPS screen, but does have 4Gb RAM.
for office and internet not a bad deal IMHO
ordered
EliTom
This was a nice deal in the first place. With the extra tenner off, it's very good so get it now. With inflation imminent, you may never see kit like this at this price ever again.
http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/compatible-upgrade-for//akoya-s4219
same on Mr Memory
https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/medion/notebook/akoya-s4219
EliTom