An excellent well reviewed 55" LED 4k TV for £476 from Argos. Limited stock but there are some around. Picked one up from Hinckley today and looks an excellent bargain for the money. Priced at £529, use code TVS10 to take 10% off, making it approx £476.
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Uridium
9 Oct 1657#18
Just walk into the living room and it's there where I left it......
The_Hoff
9 Oct 1620#24
I don't understand the race for 4K. If you have a TV that has broken, sure replace it with a cheap 4k as a placeholder, but throwing out a decent FHD TV for a mediocre 4K set makes little sense to me.
90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
0zone
8 Oct 1614#7
The black levels on these panels arn't great if you like watching movies in the dark, which reveals a much higher than expected lightbleed from the bottom and top. What should be inky black ends up a murky dark grey with a blue tint to it.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
0zone to jamescorbs
8 Oct 169#8
See my comment above. Claims of HDR on these sets are erroneous should be prosecuted by trading standards when the set can't produce anything near black levels and colour gamut given in the specifications. The panels are bright and have a reasonably good refresh rate, but as for blacks you'll get muddy pictures and certainly no where near the contrast rage required to meet either of the two HDR standards currently certifying TV sets.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
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jamescorbs
8 Oct 161#1
That's an amazing price for this TV. If it doesn't already have HDR then you can download the update to enable it from their website too.
0zone to jamescorbs
8 Oct 169#8
See my comment above. Claims of HDR on these sets are erroneous should be prosecuted by trading standards when the set can't produce anything near black levels and colour gamut given in the specifications. The panels are bright and have a reasonably good refresh rate, but as for blacks you'll get muddy pictures and certainly no where near the contrast rage required to meet either of the two HDR standards currently certifying TV sets.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
alfreer1
8 Oct 161#2
Mine has not found any automatic updates yet. I've had it 10 days.
Can UK update be found on their site or just the French update I've been reading about?
keno2000_uk to alfreer1
8 Oct 161#3
how are you finding the tv?
Beorg to alfreer1
9 Oct 163#20
I've got the 50" model of the TV.
Just to clarify a couple of things in the thread, the TV uses an 8-bit, edge-lit VA panel with dithering, allowing it to display HDR content. It has quite narrow viewing angles, so it would not be suitable for viewing in larger rooms with wide angles.
There's a big thread on AV Forums about this TV, and some people have had the TV calibrated with professional tools, achieving a static contrast ratio of 8261:1, so it's safe to say that the black levels are above average with this set.
It should find the update over the Internet quite soon. Mine update within a couple of days from having it. I found the best way to force the update is to switch off the set completely for a few min, switch it back on and then search for the update manually. Failing that, you could always update to 901 using the French firmware, which appears to be identical.
I got myself a Mountright UMS4 glass TV stand from the Rainforest place. It does the job and looks pretty sleek.
The TV comes with firmware (v422) that allows it to playback HDR content over USB (local playback). I've watched a few sample HDR videos, and they all look amazing. Life of Pi was a highlight. The new firmware (v901), which has started rolling out in the last couple of weeks in the UK, and can be downloaded from the French Hisense website as a standalone, allows playback over HDMI. Unfortunately, the built-in Netflix and Amazon apps don't support HDR yet.
millward84
8 Oct 16#4
What stands are you using for this size TV?
Technicolor to millward84
9 Oct 163#26
I tend to sit but otherwise I use the two feet on the floor and stand up straight type.
steve_b21
8 Oct 16#5
Would have been interested in this ... However need the confusion regarding the HDR update confirmed first!
jamhops
8 Oct 161#6
is there anyway to find the grey to grey for this tv?
0zone
8 Oct 1614#7
The black levels on these panels arn't great if you like watching movies in the dark, which reveals a much higher than expected lightbleed from the bottom and top. What should be inky black ends up a murky dark grey with a blue tint to it.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
peterkay11 to 0zone
9 Oct 16#19
Cello/Goodmans???
mxer450
8 Oct 16#9
I here the HDR download does no difference what so ever?. Be interested to here owner's comments, as close to buying the 65".
Kahunas
8 Oct 16#10
is this true 4k at 10 bit...?
proud_pirate to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#21
At that price i highly doubt it
retrend to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#29
No it's an 8bit panel.
I bought it thinking it was a 10bit panel but ultimately they're twice the price and it's a brilliant picture in 4k and 720p/1080p so I'm happy. I'll get a 10bit panel in a few years.
checkley73 to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#35
nowhere near and never will be. It's an 8 bit panel and doesn't get anywhere near the performance required for true HDR.
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90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
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If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
Can UK update be found on their site or just the French update I've been reading about?
Just to clarify a couple of things in the thread, the TV uses an 8-bit, edge-lit VA panel with dithering, allowing it to display HDR content. It has quite narrow viewing angles, so it would not be suitable for viewing in larger rooms with wide angles.
There's a big thread on AV Forums about this TV, and some people have had the TV calibrated with professional tools, achieving a static contrast ratio of 8261:1, so it's safe to say that the black levels are above average with this set.
It should find the update over the Internet quite soon. Mine update within a couple of days from having it. I found the best way to force the update is to switch off the set completely for a few min, switch it back on and then search for the update manually. Failing that, you could always update to 901 using the French firmware, which appears to be identical.
I got myself a Mountright UMS4 glass TV stand from the Rainforest place. It does the job and looks pretty sleek.
The TV comes with firmware (v422) that allows it to playback HDR content over USB (local playback). I've watched a few sample HDR videos, and they all look amazing. Life of Pi was a highlight. The new firmware (v901), which has started rolling out in the last couple of weeks in the UK, and can be downloaded from the French Hisense website as a standalone, allows playback over HDMI. Unfortunately, the built-in Netflix and Amazon apps don't support HDR yet.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
I bought it thinking it was a 10bit panel but ultimately they're twice the price and it's a brilliant picture in 4k and 720p/1080p so I'm happy. I'll get a 10bit panel in a few years.