An excellent well reviewed 55" LED 4k TV for £476 from Argos. Limited stock but there are some around. Picked one up from Hinckley today and looks an excellent bargain for the money. Priced at £529, use code TVS10 to take 10% off, making it approx £476.
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Uridium
9 Oct 1657#18
Just walk into the living room and it's there where I left it......
The_Hoff
9 Oct 1620#24
I don't understand the race for 4K. If you have a TV that has broken, sure replace it with a cheap 4k as a placeholder, but throwing out a decent FHD TV for a mediocre 4K set makes little sense to me.
90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
0zone
8 Oct 1614#7
The black levels on these panels arn't great if you like watching movies in the dark, which reveals a much higher than expected lightbleed from the bottom and top. What should be inky black ends up a murky dark grey with a blue tint to it.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
0zone to jamescorbs
8 Oct 169#8
See my comment above. Claims of HDR on these sets are erroneous should be prosecuted by trading standards when the set can't produce anything near black levels and colour gamut given in the specifications. The panels are bright and have a reasonably good refresh rate, but as for blacks you'll get muddy pictures and certainly no where near the contrast rage required to meet either of the two HDR standards currently certifying TV sets.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
Latest comments (109)
iRomek
31 Oct 16#109
it takes about 10-15 seconds to boot up (from off or standby) once on the remote response is very good as the menus are simple and straight forward, none of this stupid animation crap that so many TVs do these days. Overall very happy with the speed.
baoth
31 Oct 16#108
Bit of a strange question, but could you tell me what its like in terms of responding to remote control inputs when its just been turned on from powered off at the wall please?
I've got a set at the moment, and the time it takes to actually do something is ludicrous.
essexgangsta
23 Oct 16#96
quick question, does this tv have freesat, cant find it anywhere just assumed as it was new it would be included
essexgangsta to essexgangsta
24 Oct 16#103
i had a update on my tv today, i havent had a chance to see what it was or what its done but mines only be up a day and is a in a playroom so wont get much use until i put the xbox on there.
solid to essexgangsta
28 Oct 16#107
Just read on another thread that the code may have expired now. Has anyone used the code in the past day?
stephenashforth
28 Oct 161#106
The codes can only be used if you are paying on online, i.e. for home delivery or for Fast Track Click & Collect. Normal Click & Collect doesn't require payment so nowhere to put the code.
errolevans
28 Oct 16#105
You can put it in online, I think it's on the checkout page
ironicman92
27 Oct 16#104
Where do you put the discount code online or can you tell them in the shop
errolevans
16 Oct 16#88
When you pick it up tell the checkout person the code TV10 and they will take the 10% off, might need the store manager to do it
essexgangsta to errolevans
24 Oct 161#102
its 3ft from the place where the feet screw in each side.
Stokey90
24 Oct 16#101
How is it? Seems to have so many good reviews here?
All I'm after is a half decent tv to watch films and normal tv on. Currently have a 4 year old Plasma.
What would you recommend, 50-55".
ChrisUK
24 Oct 16#100
Don't do it, it's a terrible TV if you're looking for something half decent.....
Stokey90
24 Oct 16#99
Yeah that would help me alot. I just want to ensure it'll fit on my tv stand.
The legs seem quite far wide on this so I don't want to mess it up.
Thanks
essexgangsta
24 Oct 16#98
ok thanks, I think i'll have to buy a old sky box then and use the hdmi to get some channels for the kids.
soldierboy001
24 Oct 161#97
No it won't have Freesat.
essexgangsta
23 Oct 16#95
i have mine wall mounted i can measure from the points the screws go in if that will help you.
Stokey90
23 Oct 16#94
Can somebody kindly tell me the width measurements from the ends of the feet?
So from the outer end of the left foot to outer end of the right?
Thank you.
essexgangsta
23 Oct 161#93
i noticed yesterday that i could order to store and pick up after 4pm, so i didn that, im going to connect it all up today managed to get it wall mouted last night. looks good for the money
errolevans
23 Oct 16#92
Just to say, stock was sparse originally, but now seems to be plenty about!
essexgangsta
16 Oct 16#91
yeah my fault as i had no idea where the code come from and when it expired.
soldierboy001
16 Oct 16#90
You should have said it was on the label of a free jar of Marmite you got from Iceland with a Daily Mail offer.
essexgangsta
16 Oct 16#89
argos annoy me most of the time, said they cant apply the code s can have it for 529.00. asked me where the code came from.
errolevans
16 Oct 16#87
The code has changed, it's now TV10 without the 's'
essexgangsta
16 Oct 16#86
just got one for collection from store. looks a good deal but the code isnt working any longer.
any wall mounts for it?
ian18
16 Oct 16#85
Doesn't it come with a stand?
mcormack
14 Oct 16#84
I think he's using a metal detector.
mcormack
14 Oct 16#83
You won't see much in 2 months.
Batfink32
14 Oct 16#82
That'll be why I'm going travelling around Australia and New Zealand next month for 2months!
elliotking11
14 Oct 16#81
guys, use code tv10 for 10% still working
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#80
There's much more to life than immersing yourself in stupid games get out there and find it.
musefan2001
13 Oct 161#79
Thanks for the reply, big help! Food for Thought for sure!
Batfink32
13 Oct 161#78
Running on a good TV, HDR in games is a game changer. It immerses you a lot more and just looks stunning. YouTube some people playing Gears or Forza on a K8000 for example and you'll see the reviewers are blown away. So yeah its absolutely worth it. On this TV, theres a definite improvement, I'd say maybe 20% of the full HDR effect but its not at all the effect you'd get on a certified HDR panel, the White's are clipped a heck of a lot meaning you have to decrease the contrast which then takes away from the luminance and there's barely any luminance as it is, the colour gamut is also quite low(check out the new Hisense reviews on AVForums, they've measured it with instruments) . The Ps4 Pro should push HDR even more as it's much more powerful than the One S and should look really incredible. Expensive time for gaming!
musefan2001
13 Oct 16#77
Hey, have you actually seen these Games running on Xbox One S on other HDR10 tvs out of interest? I'm just wondering if HDR on the Xbox is even worth upgrading for right now?? if so, which? Is the extra £1000 on an actual 10bit HDR Tv worth the difference? Thanks
Batfink32
13 Oct 16#76
Forza Horizon and Gears of War 4 are running in HDR. The HDR effect is minimal with this TV. It doesn't look bad but it's not the full HDR effect. It's no surprise though as the max brightness this TV can do is 150nits whilst the HDR standard is 1000. On a good TV, HDR makes a massive difference.
keno2000_uk
12 Oct 16#75
apart from the fact that forza horizon 3 and gears of war 4 both use hdr. just saying
iRomek
12 Oct 16#74
So... just to clarify... your Xbox One S has the ability to output HDR, your TV (post the update) can show HDR content BUT you forgot one final "little" bit to this puzzel... no games have been released that actually uses HDR, so that is why you haven't seen a difference yet. And I'm not 100% convinced you'll actually see that much of a difference... I would argue that you should see a bigger difference if you were to buy a Playstation 4 Pro running a 4K game instead.
Just saying... :stuck_out_tongue:
burn2groundenquiries
11 Oct 161#73
Had one of these but returned it as it couldn't do the basics like 4:4:4 chroma properly making it useless to me. I actually thought the picture quality was very good until I replaced it (also from Argos) with an LG they had on sale. Not saying the Hisense is bad, but the difference in quality really was night and day.
Batfink32
11 Oct 16#72
Had one of these for a week now, using it with the Xbox One S. It just doesn't produce good HDR, in fact it barely produces any HDR. An update is needed for HDR over HDMI and even with it the difference between HDR and non HDR is indistinguishable. The TV uses an 8bit panel and just doesn't have the gamut for a good HDR picture.
loiterer
11 Oct 16#71
USB 3.0 only, no USB Type-C? Old tech. Pass.
0zone
11 Oct 16#70
I can only go by the sets I've personally had. I also noted there was a setting in the menu marked "home/store". Basically flipping it to "store" ramps up the colour saturation and brightness, but at thee expense of deep blacks. Looks okay if your watching it in an extremely brightly lit room (think supermarket florescent lights or pub beer garden in the summer), but switching that on at home looks ludicrously poor. Flipping back to "home" then dims it down a bit, but the light bleed into the blacks is not only uneven (with dark and lighter patches), but also isn't really black at all.
Had a dead pixel on the first one too, and two on the 2nd.
The best use for these is visual advertising in shops where colour saturation and brightness are more important than colour gamut and contrast.
As for HDR, well I find that offensive.
montana78
11 Oct 16#69
Thanks man. What i wanted to hear. Is that all hisense panels. I was thinking of the 65 inch version. The k5510 or m5510 i think
Turbanator
10 Oct 16#68
I've weighing these up against the LG 600 series TVs which compete in the same price bracket (4K, UHD, etc).
The LG ones are widely reputed to be faux-K with RGBW panels, but I can't seem to find anything which states wether the HiSense M3300 series is also RGBW or not? Does anyone know?
keno2000_uk
10 Oct 16#67
took the plunge and bought this yesterday. swapped around the tvs in the house and sold the spare 32" for £60 making this around £400. the quality on hd is fantastic and 4k content is amazing. you will have to do a lot of messing with the settings but its worth it. ps4 looks so much better than on my old 50" Sony. only issues so far are SD content looks really bad which is too be expected with the TV trying to upscale it to 4k. the only other issue is the legs for the stand are right on the edges and point out meaning it may struggle to fit on some TV stands. my brother has bought a 55"lg which is a 10bit panel and runs hdr properly yes it looks better but only just and it cost £1000 so in my opinion this hisense is a no brainer
cobrastang
10 Oct 16#66
I agree listen to the opinions of people who have one,not the know it all people who don't.I have a 58 inch and its great
0zone
10 Oct 16#65
Had two, one after the other. Didn't bother with a 3rd.
You won't see the light bleed issues in a brightly lit showroom, retailers pray on that.
cobrastang
10 Oct 16#64
you know all about this tv,im guessing you have one ?
jonmarz89
10 Oct 16#63
there sent me link to download but it has different model name in url, i don't see why it won't pop up on updates
kiish
10 Oct 161#62
They're suppose to be releasing the "UK" version out last week and this week so I'd contact them again if you don't get it by end of this week. You can of course download the "EU" version from Hisense.fr though. Assuming network is connected it should auto update for you.
That doesnt mean they make premium products though, they sound good enough, unfortunately for me, thats not good enough.
chipsngravy
10 Oct 16#60
I'll stick with my Panny Plasma.
kaiser051
10 Oct 161#59
Heat added good for the money but il hold on a few months and get a 10bit version for not much more
pinchez
10 Oct 16#58
Is the a code for this TV for the TiVo?
iRomek
10 Oct 167#57
Had the 50 inch since June and LOVE it. The colours are VERY good, the black levels are VERY good, upscaling looks great (as it's a simple double the pixels formula and most 4K do HD well). Even got the HDR update last week. Been watching 4K via the BT 4K channel (footie looks amazing), and Amazon/Netflix, looking forward to more and more content being available in 4K.
Quick note, I don't use the preset picture profiles... instead set to standard and in the Advance Settings went through and set up the colours, brightness, saturation, etc. Turned off some of the auto-contrast features (as they tend to flicker for me) and I'm very very happy with the quality.
One more small thing to all the haters... it's not the top-of-the-line TV, no one said it was.. but some of the Marketing BS that the big boys release seems to be done to get you to buy a new TV and I'm not convinced they make THAT much difference. Even the 8bit-10bit discussion is funny, since this set looks REALLY good.
This is VERY good cheap 4K TV which I will be happy to replace in a few years time when/if something really amazing comes out that this TV is missing (probably for the updated Hisense). :stuck_out_tongue:
kaiser051
10 Oct 16#56
So this is the equivalent of having a 720p tv and it being able to accept a 1080p signal but downscales it to 720p to allow the tv to display the picture ?
It can accept a hdr signal but cant fully process it so it displays a downscaled version with less colour and clarity?
jonmarz89
10 Oct 16#55
is there firmware out for this, i got the m5 series and by checking though tv update no update but a email to support, there give link but it don't say my model number in link
DevK
9 Oct 164#54
I have one of these. Got an over-the-air HDR update 2 weeks ago. It basically adds another menu item which remains greyed out unless you have a HDR source connected .
Ignore the negative reviews offered by some of the previous comments. This is a great TV with a great picture.
DeafCassette
9 Oct 16#53
Sounds like sound advice from the Hoff.
I'd expect nothing less from the Hoff Meister.
checkley73
9 Oct 16#52
No
fit finlay
9 Oct 16#51
bang it on the wall, £15 will get you a decent wall bracket off ebay
rextar111
9 Oct 16#50
None in stock northwest
Stokey90
9 Oct 16#49
OOS where I am or else I'd snap it up. Hot
andyleeds20
9 Oct 16#48
how does this compare to the sony 4k one which is advertised on here from argos for 700 pound ?
craigtumilty
9 Oct 16#47
they produce their own panels and they are the 3rd highest producers currently world wide
mittromney
9 Oct 16#46
Well he's drawn a map.
Jeffshi2016
9 Oct 16#45
Great
craigtumilty
9 Oct 161#44
with all hisense tv I recommend you get on the forums and find a suitable update. I have the 58k700 and it's online updates are rubbish but the forum download firmware made it so much better
kiish
9 Oct 16#43
Hisense M3000/3300 are pretty decent, I would say more than just decent for the price tag. Well liked on avforums.
I should also mention I don't care much about 4K either but wanted a decent HD TV for a good price, HDR support is a bonus just waiting to see if there is any real difference once update comes on.
soldierboy001
9 Oct 16#42
Sorry I thought the real issue was this TV.
gta15
9 Oct 16#41
No stock near me and couldn't get code to work?
soldierboy001
9 Oct 161#39
According to What HiFi you'd be better off getting an equally priced full HD set unless you are into 4K snobbishness.
P.S. I have a 4K set but it wasn't for 4K content it was because it has a great full HD picture.
Beorg to soldierboy001
9 Oct 162#40
4K upscaling is really good on this set. It could be that I'm used to my old Panasonic plasma's soft image, but the quality of the picture of true 1080p sources upscaled to 4K is really impressive on this TV.
When it comes to HDR, out of the box the TV only does local HDR playback, so you can watch HDR videos over USB. With the 901 update, you can do it over HDMI, and whilst initial reports have been mixed, the HDR sample of Life of Pi and HDR in Forza Horizon 3 is simply amazing.
The real issue is lack of true 4K HDR content at the moment.
checkley73
9 Oct 16#38
I'll be interested to see your view once you have the update, from what I have seen you cannot tell the difference with a human eye and that's all I have been blessed with for now.
kiish
9 Oct 16#37
According to several other forums even with 8bit you will notice A difference. This TV is also only USB at the moment, Hisense are releasing the firmware for HDMI ports this week and next week for the models.
kiish
9 Oct 16#33
HDR update for 3000/3300 will be released by end of this coming week according to Hisense. They're updating in batches every day.
I'm waiting for it too, will be interesting to see what difference it makes on my Xbox for Forza since it's meant to be really good in HDR!
checkley73 to kiish
9 Oct 16#36
You won't notice any difference at all as the panel is unable to produce the required spectrum for true HDR.
If you want a set with HDR you will need to spend more than this, and also check what sources you get HDR from. Some TV's it's only from USB...!
Kahunas
8 Oct 16#10
is this true 4k at 10 bit...?
proud_pirate to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#21
At that price i highly doubt it
retrend to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#29
No it's an 8bit panel.
I bought it thinking it was a 10bit panel but ultimately they're twice the price and it's a brilliant picture in 4k and 720p/1080p so I'm happy. I'll get a 10bit panel in a few years.
checkley73 to Kahunas
9 Oct 16#35
nowhere near and never will be. It's an 8 bit panel and doesn't get anywhere near the performance required for true HDR.
quidstretchy
9 Oct 163#34
I just walk into the living room, most of the time I can locate it within a few seconds. Sunday mornings though, I must admit that it can take me longer.
PhilK
9 Oct 161#32
Sadly I don't know anyone like that.
I usually have friends and neighbours getting MY old stuff !!!
F4STFORW4RD
9 Oct 16#31
Is that the film-buff equivalent of road rage? :stuck_out_tongue:
spenspuma
9 Oct 162#30
It'll be in his front room, should be easy enough to find.
eslick
9 Oct 162#28
Have the 10bit moaners actually priced up the difference between a 8 and 10 bit, in many models it's £500 more, except that is if you are the sales guy in currys yesterday that tried to tell us the price difference between £800 8 bit and £1300 10 bit was only £200. If you are in for a to under a grand you are not going to pay the difference for a 10 bit :disappointed:
John Lewis does have the 10 bit version for £799 but then again that's half the price again.
afroylnt
9 Oct 16#27
I'm guessing this TV must be a big advance for you over your old 21" b&w.
millward84
8 Oct 16#4
What stands are you using for this size TV?
Technicolor to millward84
9 Oct 163#26
I tend to sit but otherwise I use the two feet on the floor and stand up straight type.
The_Hoff
9 Oct 164#25
Buy a decent second hand FHD set from one of the chumps upgrading their high-end Sony/Samsung for a subpar 4k Hisense or Bush!
The_Hoff
9 Oct 1620#24
I don't understand the race for 4K. If you have a TV that has broken, sure replace it with a cheap 4k as a placeholder, but throwing out a decent FHD TV for a mediocre 4K set makes little sense to me.
90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
steve_b21
9 Oct 16#23
Many thanks for the info.
I am on the look out for a 50/55" TV.... Which one on the market would you suggest is the best in a price range of about £400-700?
Moving into a new house soon so need need to be one asap. Thanks.
ReflexReact
9 Oct 161#22
It's 8bit HDR and edge lit which means the HDR won't be fantastic in the middle
alfreer1
8 Oct 161#2
Mine has not found any automatic updates yet. I've had it 10 days.
Can UK update be found on their site or just the French update I've been reading about?
keno2000_uk to alfreer1
8 Oct 161#3
how are you finding the tv?
Beorg to alfreer1
9 Oct 163#20
I've got the 50" model of the TV.
Just to clarify a couple of things in the thread, the TV uses an 8-bit, edge-lit VA panel with dithering, allowing it to display HDR content. It has quite narrow viewing angles, so it would not be suitable for viewing in larger rooms with wide angles.
There's a big thread on AV Forums about this TV, and some people have had the TV calibrated with professional tools, achieving a static contrast ratio of 8261:1, so it's safe to say that the black levels are above average with this set.
It should find the update over the Internet quite soon. Mine update within a couple of days from having it. I found the best way to force the update is to switch off the set completely for a few min, switch it back on and then search for the update manually. Failing that, you could always update to 901 using the French firmware, which appears to be identical.
I got myself a Mountright UMS4 glass TV stand from the Rainforest place. It does the job and looks pretty sleek.
The TV comes with firmware (v422) that allows it to playback HDR content over USB (local playback). I've watched a few sample HDR videos, and they all look amazing. Life of Pi was a highlight. The new firmware (v901), which has started rolling out in the last couple of weeks in the UK, and can be downloaded from the French Hisense website as a standalone, allows playback over HDMI. Unfortunately, the built-in Netflix and Amazon apps don't support HDR yet.
0zone
8 Oct 1614#7
The black levels on these panels arn't great if you like watching movies in the dark, which reveals a much higher than expected lightbleed from the bottom and top. What should be inky black ends up a murky dark grey with a blue tint to it.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
peterkay11 to 0zone
9 Oct 16#19
Cello/Goodmans???
Uridium
9 Oct 1657#18
Just walk into the living room and it's there where I left it......
alfreer1
9 Oct 16#17
Too early to say to be honest, I work alot and haven't had a chance to tinker too much with the settings.
Coming from a 9 year old LG plasma I did notice HD channels looking better, SD not so great though.
Turned down the back light. Still need to find a good colour balance though.
Gaming has been ok so far: Tomb Raider and Black Ops 3 on PC.
Yet to try Netflix 4k and bluray purely sue to time constraints.
MoRooney
9 Oct 161#16
I have this. Got it for 500 a little while back. Great TV in my opinion. 4k looks just fine to me on Netflix and the Ps4 looks equally as smooth.
Common Sense
9 Oct 16#15
Televisions should offer brand deletion - the ability to remove the company logo for brand snobs.
I am sure sales would increase. :wink:
Nimitz46
8 Oct 162#14
I'd of thought if a TV is hdr capable it would be built in. Don't get how a software update can make hardware do something it wasn't designed and built for.
Clangers99
8 Oct 161#13
Got this for 449 from ao.com a few weeks ago and no regrets. I am not a panel nerd but from a simple user point of view it is a fantastic picture and sound. No doubt there are better 4K TVs out there for a lot more money but in terms of value for money this is difficult to beat. I had always gone for Panasonic up until now but after reading the reviews and seeing it for myself I would say go with the Hisense, worth every penny. The booking and delivery service from ao.com is very impressive, I certainly would purchase from them again.
overlander34
8 Oct 161#12
the HDR is an automatic update which hisense have started rolling out in the uk. Alternatively you can do the update manually by USB stick and the avforums give instructions on this. My own opinion is that this set is very good for the money and presents 4k content very well on Netflix and sat. incidentally this has a built in 4k sat decoder as well as freeview HD. I have had no issues with games on xbox either.
errolevans
8 Oct 165#11
Just watched a 720p film on it. Yes, it doesn't have the black levels of OLED, I turned the backlight down and used cinema night picture mode and the picture quality is very good for the cost. Bear in mind this is 20% of the cost of a 2016 model 55" OLED, and roughly 50-60% of the cost of a real HDR set. This is my partners TV and "bang for buck" I still think it's an amazing deal :smiley:
mxer450
8 Oct 16#9
I here the HDR download does no difference what so ever?. Be interested to here owner's comments, as close to buying the 65".
jamescorbs
8 Oct 161#1
That's an amazing price for this TV. If it doesn't already have HDR then you can download the update to enable it from their website too.
0zone to jamescorbs
8 Oct 169#8
See my comment above. Claims of HDR on these sets are erroneous should be prosecuted by trading standards when the set can't produce anything near black levels and colour gamut given in the specifications. The panels are bright and have a reasonably good refresh rate, but as for blacks you'll get muddy pictures and certainly no where near the contrast rage required to meet either of the two HDR standards currently certifying TV sets.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
jamhops
8 Oct 161#6
is there anyway to find the grey to grey for this tv?
steve_b21
8 Oct 16#5
Would have been interested in this ... However need the confusion regarding the HDR update confirmed first!
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90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.
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I've got a set at the moment, and the time it takes to actually do something is ludicrous.
All I'm after is a half decent tv to watch films and normal tv on. Currently have a 4 year old Plasma.
What would you recommend, 50-55".
The legs seem quite far wide on this so I don't want to mess it up.
Thanks
So from the outer end of the left foot to outer end of the right?
Thank you.
any wall mounts for it?
Just saying... :stuck_out_tongue:
Had a dead pixel on the first one too, and two on the 2nd.
The best use for these is visual advertising in shops where colour saturation and brightness are more important than colour gamut and contrast.
As for HDR, well I find that offensive.
The LG ones are widely reputed to be faux-K with RGBW panels, but I can't seem to find anything which states wether the HiSense M3300 series is also RGBW or not? Does anyone know?
You won't see the light bleed issues in a brightly lit showroom, retailers pray on that.
Is this M5500? I don't see new HDR update on http://www.hisense.fr/system/files/telechargements/Mise_a_jour_firmware_65M5500.pdf
New version should be G0825 for anyone wondering.
Quick note, I don't use the preset picture profiles... instead set to standard and in the Advance Settings went through and set up the colours, brightness, saturation, etc. Turned off some of the auto-contrast features (as they tend to flicker for me) and I'm very very happy with the quality.
One more small thing to all the haters... it's not the top-of-the-line TV, no one said it was.. but some of the Marketing BS that the big boys release seems to be done to get you to buy a new TV and I'm not convinced they make THAT much difference. Even the 8bit-10bit discussion is funny, since this set looks REALLY good.
This is VERY good cheap 4K TV which I will be happy to replace in a few years time when/if something really amazing comes out that this TV is missing (probably for the updated Hisense). :stuck_out_tongue:
It can accept a hdr signal but cant fully process it so it displays a downscaled version with less colour and clarity?
Ignore the negative reviews offered by some of the previous comments. This is a great TV with a great picture.
I'd expect nothing less from the Hoff Meister.
I should also mention I don't care much about 4K either but wanted a decent HD TV for a good price, HDR support is a bonus just waiting to see if there is any real difference once update comes on.
P.S. I have a 4K set but it wasn't for 4K content it was because it has a great full HD picture.
When it comes to HDR, out of the box the TV only does local HDR playback, so you can watch HDR videos over USB. With the 901 update, you can do it over HDMI, and whilst initial reports have been mixed, the HDR sample of Life of Pi and HDR in Forza Horizon 3 is simply amazing.
The real issue is lack of true 4K HDR content at the moment.
I'm waiting for it too, will be interesting to see what difference it makes on my Xbox for Forza since it's meant to be really good in HDR!
If you want a set with HDR you will need to spend more than this, and also check what sources you get HDR from. Some TV's it's only from USB...!
I bought it thinking it was a 10bit panel but ultimately they're twice the price and it's a brilliant picture in 4k and 720p/1080p so I'm happy. I'll get a 10bit panel in a few years.
I usually have friends and neighbours getting MY old stuff !!!
John Lewis does have the 10 bit version for £799 but then again that's half the price again.
90% of the programming you watch, or games you play won't be 4K, and in many cases won't even be FHD, so why would I want to willingly display this on a TV that will need to scale it and stretch it across a mediocre screen and introduce a load of noise and latency based on the image processing you're asking it to do? I don't get it.
Then there's the standards war that's waging where you have various parties and alliances pulling in differing directions (a la BD vs HD-DVD), at the end of all of this you'll be left with something akin to a HD-Ready screen of yesteryear that nobody will touch with a bargepole.
If you can afford to wait for transmission to catch up, just wait. There are better deals coming for good 10bit 4/4/4 panels and if you really can't wait for Q2/Q3 next year, at least wait until Christmas/Black Friday!
I am on the look out for a 50/55" TV.... Which one on the market would you suggest is the best in a price range of about £400-700?
Moving into a new house soon so need need to be one asap. Thanks.
Can UK update be found on their site or just the French update I've been reading about?
Just to clarify a couple of things in the thread, the TV uses an 8-bit, edge-lit VA panel with dithering, allowing it to display HDR content. It has quite narrow viewing angles, so it would not be suitable for viewing in larger rooms with wide angles.
There's a big thread on AV Forums about this TV, and some people have had the TV calibrated with professional tools, achieving a static contrast ratio of 8261:1, so it's safe to say that the black levels are above average with this set.
It should find the update over the Internet quite soon. Mine update within a couple of days from having it. I found the best way to force the update is to switch off the set completely for a few min, switch it back on and then search for the update manually. Failing that, you could always update to 901 using the French firmware, which appears to be identical.
I got myself a Mountright UMS4 glass TV stand from the Rainforest place. It does the job and looks pretty sleek.
The TV comes with firmware (v422) that allows it to playback HDR content over USB (local playback). I've watched a few sample HDR videos, and they all look amazing. Life of Pi was a highlight. The new firmware (v901), which has started rolling out in the last couple of weeks in the UK, and can be downloaded from the French Hisense website as a standalone, allows playback over HDMI. Unfortunately, the built-in Netflix and Amazon apps don't support HDR yet.
We had two in a row like this, didn't bother a 3rd time, just got our money back and went for the Groupon 55" Samsung for £499. It's a world of difference.I'm not sure which 3rd party panels they use (possibly Cello/Goodmans if they are UK built), but they arn't particularly good, and of course the bigger the set is, the more noticeable and distracting such things are.
For someone who just likes catching up on the soaps you'll be okay, but by the nature of this being a 4k set it's possibly being aimed at the wrong market, as 4K viewers tend to be movie buffs with Netflix subscriptions and used to hunting around for high quality content, which this TV set will ruin.
If you're not interested in hunting around for 4k content and buying a 4k blurry player, then spend your money on an HD panel from Samsung or LG.
Coming from a 9 year old LG plasma I did notice HD channels looking better, SD not so great though.
Turned down the back light. Still need to find a good colour balance though.
Gaming has been ok so far: Tomb Raider and Black Ops 3 on PC.
Yet to try Netflix 4k and bluray purely sue to time constraints.
I am sure sales would increase. :wink:
If you have a high end mobile phone (non oled) with vibrant colours and deep blacks, THAT'S closer to what you should be seeing on an HDR set, not this bull**** they peddle.