Talos uses a Vulkan wrapper as far as I know. The benefits to Vulkan are restricted for now.

In Vulkan "most of the time"? It wins in half the Vulkan games (Doom), but loses in the other half (The Talos Principle). Still doing better there than in a DX12 comparison, though - the 8GB 480 isn't ahead of the 6GB 1060 in most games. In fact - and please correct me if I'm wrong - it's only ahead in Hitman, isn't it? Total Warhammer, Ashes of the Singularity, Rise of the Tomb Raider etc are all faster on a 6GB 1060, despite being DX12 games with async compute support, and a couple of them supposedly AMD-favoring titles. It seems that the 1060 is ahead in DX12 in general, and it's too soon to make judgments with Vulkan due to the tiny sample. I think you should look at the benchmarks again! :wink:

(Let's just not mention DX11! :wink:)

As for the marketshare, I simply looked at the latest Steam hardware survey - the 1060, 1070 and 1080 all have a foothold there already, and the 480 doesn't, despite having been "available" for nearly three months. There have been a few articles in the tech world about sales figures - this came up top for "480 sale figures", for example, and reinforces that the 1080 is outselling the 480.

I'm not 100% sure it's all true, of course - maybe people are buying 480s and 470s but then only playing games from GOG.com and Origin, rather than Steam? :laughing:

Maybe a racist tweet from OCUK is all we need to convince us. :man:

​Not sure that's true. Rumour suggests AMD are regaining market share and also reports from places like OcUK have suggested the 480s are selling pretty well and better than some of the other cards you mentioned! 1060 is its true competitor but then the 480 beats soundly in DX12 or Vulkan most of the time. Look at Doom...

That's a decent price. Especially if your considering to crossfire.

After last 2 products from XFX Im avoiding them like a plague, but still good price

These were £220 a couple of months ago, and were supposed to be cheaper even back then... :confused:

Could be a supply issue, of course - they're rarely in stock at reasonable prices, and the 480 hasn't sold nearly as many as the 1060, 1070 or, bizarrely, even the 1080.

I bought an XFX 260, out of all the cards I've ever bought, this is the only one that ever died on me after 2 years. Just a month after warranty.

Not to mention, at 226.98, you can buy a 1060 6gb model... I think it's a no-brainer. Bad company, mediocre price.

​Not sure that's true. Rumour suggests AMD are regaining market share and also reports from places like OcUK have suggested the 480s are selling pretty well and better than some of the other cards you mentioned! 1060 is its true competitor but then the 480 beats soundly in DX12 or Vulkan most of the time. Look at Doom...

In Vulkan "most of the time"? It wins in half the Vulkan games (Doom), but loses in the other half (The Talos Principle). Still doing better there than in a DX12 comparison, though - the 8GB 480 isn't ahead of the 6GB 1060 in most games. In fact - and please correct me if I'm wrong - it's only ahead in Hitman, isn't it? Total Warhammer, Ashes of the Singularity, Rise of the Tomb Raider etc are all faster on a 6GB 1060, despite being DX12 games with async compute support, and a couple of them supposedly AMD-favoring titles. It seems that the 1060 is ahead in DX12 in general, and it's too soon to make judgments with Vulkan due to the tiny sample. I think you should look at the benchmarks again! :wink:

(Let's just not mention DX11! :wink:)

As for the marketshare, I simply looked at the latest Steam hardware survey - the 1060, 1070 and 1080 all have a foothold there already, and the 480 doesn't, despite having been "available" for nearly three months. There have been a few articles in the tech world about sales figures - this came up top for "480 sale figures", for example, and reinforces that the 1080 is outselling the 480.

I'm not 100% sure it's all true, of course - maybe people are buying 480s and 470s but then only playing games from GOG.com and Origin, rather than Steam? :laughing:

Maybe a racist tweet from OCUK is all we need to convince us. :man:

Rumours are generally just that, a rumor.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

The steam hardware survey shows all gfx cards with at least .3 percent markets hard. They lump amd cards from some categories together. None of the Polaris cards crack the minimum. The 1080 has already hit .49. enough rumours, there are facts available.

They are getting ahead because of the console market, the PS4 and XBOXONE all use AMD because NVIDIA cant compete.

Plus this: http://wccftech.com/amd-takes-gpu-share-nvidia-q1-2016/