No way.... It's totally the other way around, pes 2017 feels like football and is far more realistic (only FIFA lets John terry outrun Ronaldo)

With you on this one, PES definitely isn't arcade like, particularly this year it feels like a realistic game of football.

I’ve read this a lot but personally I never had a single connection issue on PES 2016. Rarely had lag during games (maybe slight lag every one in ten), never disconnected from the server and whenever maintenance took place I was notified in advance and it was scheduled for the early hours of the morning.

I have had some lag on MyClub last night, more like a framerate issue occurring randomly during games probably due to the strain on the servers. This is a widely reported problem and will definitely be patched.

That being said I do have Virgin fibre optic broadband with low ping. Might be worse for people with ADSL lines.

In contrast to FIFA I find that it can regularly kick you from a game due to losing connection to server, errors always happen in UT when TOTY cards are released i.e. cards become stuck in your trade pile for days on end and you don’t get the player/coins from a sale and unannounced maintenance is always scheduled for evening GMT time which really annoys me.

Just get whichever you like, my personal opinion is that PES 16 was much superior to FIFA 16 but I’ve had every FIFA since FIFA 10 so I like both games.

Pes reclaims it's throne

Nearly finished my first season of master league, this game is addictive!

I have been doing that since pes 2015

First PES i have enjoyed since the PS2 days, really enjoying Master League. Think i'll be using PES for offline and Fifa for online this year.

Missing out on everything else isn't worth it imo, the champions league and euro cup are brilliant editions to the pes franchise, the gameplay is just amazing.

Last night I was Barca vs Arsenal whilst the game downloaded on my 2nd Xbox and I crossed the ball with a rabona & Suarez then did an overhead kick, didn't score but it was just amazing to watch.

I am very happy to say that something has changed and Myclub speed has vastly improved. Back to normal!

still waiting for "The King is Back" comments....it'll never be "back" until we let go of this obsession for as much realism as possible. I want a game not a football simulator.

Do you not find it slow? I have a fibre connection and it feels like the players are cumbersome dissjointed. Just played a game then and the game froze for 10 mins whilst taking a throw in!!

Do you not find it slow? I have a fibre connection and it feels like the players are cumbersome dissjointed. Just played a game then and the game froze for 10 mins whilst taking a throw in!!

Plays fine for me and IGN gave a 9.5 before trying online but today gave it a 9.5 including the "brilliant online"

Mine isn't!! Easy to get other players but it is slow gameplay.

Online is very good this year around.

Hi guys few questions for those who have Pes:
How many create a player places are they?
Can you import graphics on ps4 version?
Is there the custom hair styles like the 2009 version?
This will be my first pes since 2009 still playing on that and loving it.

Last couple of years I had Fifa, but have been buying Fifa a year out of date as never worth full price IMO. I did briefly have PES 2016, it was good but for me the high scoring games and naff goalkeepers soon made it unplayable.

Konami seem to have (based on the demo) rectified the issues that PES 2016 had so it should be a great game. I am on XB1 so there is the kit issue. But Fifa demo IMO is nothing special as it's the same old. So looking to pick up PES 2017 will probably wait until it's £25 mark. A good version of PES is better than a good version of Fifa IMO.

this game is amazing. end of.

demo will probs be good like last year but online is appalling avoid

Agree, not sure where i got 17-18 from... but its 100% worth waiting for if you can... also for the guys that just like MyClub, i imagine that will be free to play again this year. I skipped last years and just played that for free instead.

Pes 6 my favourite pes game!

Yes, fairly new to PES online. Only done about 1200+ online games in Myclub 2016......:smirk:

Personally didnt have a problem with 2016 online, in fact loved it so much, not a day went by without playing Myclub. Occasionally it dropped out halfway through a match due to a connection problem. With 2017, it feels like your playing in mud and last night, as someone else said, the framerate dropped too. Konami please sort the speed issue online asap. Otherwise I will have to look for someone to play online with 2016!!

Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably give it a miss then.

it's no surprise it's been like this constantly in PES 2016. The connection relies on P2P. i feel sorry for those who buy this for the broken online mode.

i paid £10 for PC version last year and i still think it's a rip-off

u must be new to PES online. PES server is abysmal since 2012. I owned PES 2016 on PC and PS3. myclub and division is already abandoned after half year since first release. PC is even worse as lag cheaters dominate the PES online community. There's no way you can play division games, myclub or even friendly match because over 50% players are lag cheaters. Your team players will delay their movements by almost 0.5 seconds because of the flipping lag. In a week of time you will give up all the online modes.

​Can't see it being that low a price in the next couple of weeks. Can't decide which footie game to buy this year. Prefer the gameplay of PES, but I was disappointed with online play last year. FIFA demo looks good and I like Ultimate Team even though it's a rip off for the coins. Obviously EA can spend more cash on presentation and it looks a more finished product but I have been playing more of the PES demo.

Totally agree, not sure about £17-£18, usually £25, but it definitely drops in price really quick, which is a good thing, since I do want it, but don't mind holding out a little longer.

Playing Myclub now. It's.... so..... slow.....

It's not always the fault of the game servers. I know what I'm talking about. People are quick to point the finger without actually looking into the stability of their own line and latency which will have an effect on game lag.

​Yep. Keep saying the same thing to myself repeatedly whilst hammering this demo for the last couple of days to stop me wasting money by buying it now instead of in a couple of weeks time!

I’ve read this a lot but personally I never had a single connection issue on PES 2016. Rarely had lag during games (maybe slight lag every one in ten), never disconnected from the server and whenever maintenance took place I was notified in advance and it was scheduled for the early hours of the morning.

I have had some lag on MyClub last night, more like a framerate issue occurring randomly during games probably due to the strain on the servers. This is a widely reported problem and will definitely be patched.

That being said I do have Virgin fibre optic broadband with low ping. Might be worse for people with ADSL lines.

In contrast to FIFA I find that it can regularly kick you from a game due to losing connection to server, errors always happen in UT when TOTY cards are released i.e. cards become stuck in your trade pile for days on end and you don’t get the player/coins from a sale and unannounced maintenance is always scheduled for evening GMT time which really annoys me.

Just get whichever you like, my personal opinion is that PES 16 was much superior to FIFA 16 but I’ve had every FIFA since FIFA 10 so I like both games.

I'm still hesitant on whether to get PES or FIFA 17! Gameplay looks incredible on PES and I'm happy to download the option file for kits etc but I'm concerned about the online play with it being awful last year. I'm also intrigued by the new story mode on FIFA. Argh!

Have you tried playing it online? Really want to buy it but concerned because of the server issues in previous years.

I'd wait for FIFA, especially after playing the god awful demo, bundle copy's will be up on here (FS/ft) section for as little as £20-25 like last year and the year before.

But honestly I'm waiting for it to join ea access this time around and even my best pal who is a die hard FIFA fan is doing the same.

It must be certain areas I guess. It was available for delivery by 3pm for my home address. Are you able to get to an Argos?

It's the best pes and footy game since 2008 back when pes was the best ! Loving it so far :smiley:

Got it on Wednesday for PS4 and completed all of the training mini games and picked up a few of the miscellaneous trophies.

Spent all night on MyClub yesterday, forgot how hard it was at the start last year… got Pogba, Falcao, Fabinho, Kuyt and Honda with my free agent spins which is pretty **** to be honest. Forgot how long it takes to build monster teams.

As for the game itself, believe what the reviews say, this game is an absolute monster.

​You need the prime now app. Assuming you have prime.

Thanks for the heads up, had a day off so picked it up this morning - Just importing all the kits and names now...

I can't see it on my account. Does it work with only certain areas? For prime now?

For those of you who waited for release (some say stupid others say wise) before deciding to get this game and are now desperate to get it today, Amazon have same day delivery with Prime for £36.85.

Historically PES games have always had terrible online performance for a lot of people, so I am not surprised if this is still the case.

Which option file did you go with? Cheers.

Got it yesterday. Option file loaded straight away with relevant kits. Best football game I've played at least since the pes games on ps2. Outstanding!

Reviews are good for this game coming in at an 88 on Metacritic so far. Last years got an 87 overall so I wouldn't get it if you didn't like 2016 or the demo

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/pro-evolution-soccer-2017

Had since Tuesday thanks to Simplygames! Online didnt happen till yesterday, but as above, bit dissapointed...

I ordered this from Shopto yesterday and it still says order processing...

PES is a great game, even as a FIFA fan i can appreciate it. But if you can wait a couple of weeks this game drops like a rock in price. Its usually 17-18 quid when FIFA launches.

haven't the online servers for PES been broken for the last 2 years? don't know if they will be fixed this year

what even the league 1 kits are there as that's what my son will be playing to play his favourite team? I have read though that badges and emblems have to be imported manually 1 at a time, that doesn't sound fun.

I would love to switch from Fifa to PES (Fifa 16 is terrible), but I usually play online coop. Does PES 2017 have 2v2 online coop?

Good price, voted hot. It's £35.99 in Argos if anyone is interested.

Had since Wednesday, incredible game.

Played Myclub online last night and it was jerky and slow. Hope this is just teething problems for first day as love the game. Very happy to be given Bale and Neymar from the agents!

With you on this one, PES definitely isn't arcade like, particularly this year it feels like a realistic game of football.

Wasn't impressed by FIFA 17's demo to be honest, but I still have to try the new story mode which might be a deal breaker for me. I love NBA's career mode and it would be great to see FIFA get some love as well. I just wish FIFA had all the extra features that are present in NBA2K16, the pre-game, the post-game, the fans, the interviews, the talks, etc etc. would be much more immersive.

No way.... It's totally the other way around, pes 2017 feels like football and is far more realistic (only FIFA lets John terry outrun Ronaldo)

I played the demo several times. It's too much of an arcade game which just doesn't feel like football. It feels hollow and incomplete. FIFA is a better game, though it is ruined by scripting e.g. 90th minute goals.

​hmmm, it fixes all the kit, the player faces are correct without an option file

Pes reclaims it's throne

Still doesn't give you the correct kits and player faces though does it.

for licencing you dont get proper club names, so the option file fixes this

played the demo of PES & was in FIFA beta. I prefer PES this season except for the dodgy keeping.
I see no difference in FIFA this season to the previous season

Does has been great he last two years, but I have rarely switched on my Ps4 in 2016, and had no idea it was out today.

Has it really improved much over the last two years ? Or will it once again be half price by November (even though it's probably great).

*playing.

Heat.

Last two seasons for me, Pro evo has surpassed fifa by miles. last year fifa looked terrible and played horrendous. On the other hand pro evo looked great and the gameplay was perfect. This year I played the demo and loved it..... this was the game to get. Then on played fifa 17 last night and I quite surprised. Graphics look amazing and plays a bit better. For the first time in many many years..... I will have to buy both. Fifa 17 for the presentation, names, graphics and legend mode. PES for the better gameplay and not too bad graphics.

Asda is £40

Anyone know what Tesco or Asda are selling it for? If its along the lines of what game asks for new titles I'll just order from ShopTo

I would like to know what kind of handicap may I find there (from someone who play more then 50 matches my-club )

£45 in game

anyone know what the servers are like ? that's my only problem with the last game, was probably just gonna wait til Christmas with it so they sort out any bugs like the horrible keeper bug last time

Not surprised by the reviews, the games have just gotten better and better, the demo is amazing, can't wait till kids finish school so I can go buy it!

Most people are idiots and will pay the asking price rather than shop around. You don't have to shop around just put it in amazon or ebay and it's nearly always cheaper.

its in game

It's out today yes... a Thursday hah

Yes and it's well worth a little effort. The gameplay is superior to FIFA's floaty arcade game. Granted FIFA has stronger online and presentation but PES is a much better football sim so the lack of licences isn't really a big deal

They have replaced you with David Luiz which I think is a downgrade. Going for a 2-2 draw but hoping for a win. Should be a cracker!

Yeah they commit so much time & effort. So there work is greatly appreciated. As for tomorrow I predict both teams to score, as unable to keep clean sheets. Would take a draw though. Nervous times ahead!!

Second that JT. Some cracking work done by the lads. Ps all the best for Friday.

Yeah Glen & the gang/community do great work. Used them last time & will do again.

For option files, many speak highly of Daymos and his files. You can find him on Facebook and I think he has a blogsite up on the web..

no one will know what there like until the masses are trying to use them, if they're anything like the last 2 years they'll be unusable.

used to be a Fifa fan til it just got more and more robotic feeling, very unorganic. PES feels so much more realistically fluid.

Just a shame that the Xbox doesnt support option files/modified kits and names :disappointed: Dare say its down to EA having a say about a competitor to Fifa, and flexing its muscle with XBox with their EA Access deal.

Great game came yesterday from shopto nexy day buzzing

I used to love PES on the PS1/2 until switching to FIFA for PS3. Having played this years PES demo I think I'm about to switch back!

Awesome! Looking for and ps4 bundle deals with pes. Any suggestions welcome.
I've already looked this morning but could be to new at this stage.

I've just been looking through the PES WORLD option file. It looks like a very classy job.

Could be my bad, as may be released today. Last year i dropped FIFA for PES but this year think will get the best of both worlds. The Option Files make PES look so much better too!

Hoping for some in-store deals for the release tomorrow. As need this in my life!