Couldn't agree more really. I believe Sony set up the UHD Alliance, then decided not to use their standard for any of their own TVs?!
I do think all of them are being purposefully evasive to make TV's nearly impossible to compare. All that measurements that matter, like bits, nits, hz etc are almost impossible to come by.
I don't give a stuff about motion rates or software bodging, I will just turn it all off as soon as I get it home anyway. Nor do I give a stuff about PQI, your made up over all rating which is designed to obscure what the TV actually is! I want to rate the TV myself, not use some system the manufacturer as devised that doesn't mean anything.
It's so bad, just by looking at the numbers it's very hard to tell a £500 TV and a £1000 TV apart. If they don't tell you what the difference is, what's the incentive to buy the more expensive one?
Can you imagine if they did with this computers or phones? Refused to tell you the spec of what you were actually buying? It would be chaos.
It just feels like the worst possible time to buy a TV. My feeling is if you don't have to, don't. If my Sony hadn't failed at the grand old age of 4 years, I certainly wouldn't be looking now.
crazyal
13 Jul 163#21
Latest software update will give it HDR compliancy but the brightness value is about 250 nits whereas full-blown HDR is around 1000 nits. HDR Blurays still look awesome on this though with HDR Mode engaged (although you still need to adjust the settings for your room). I personally have the 65" 8509 coupled with a Samsung K8500 4K Bluray player. The TV is superb and although it is a 2015 model it is hopefully getting Marshmallow at some point this year.
All comments (139)
hotdog07
13 Jul 16#1
I've had this TV for a while now (paid a lot more ) would recommend it only issue is the sound quite low and doesn't come with glasses definitely worth it at this price
ryanwhite241
13 Jul 16#2
Excellent TV! Whilst android isn't perfect, its fantastic for installing apps and new content. Brilliant picture quality too!
ninjin
13 Jul 16#3
I got mine at £849 from JL a couple weeks ago. thought that was cheap but this is even better. looks like curry's also giving 5yr warranty too.
excellent TV for this price. cant go wrong.
WalterSmith to ninjin
13 Jul 16#6
Never knowingly undersold. Contact them for a pricematch - sorted!!
Asura
13 Jul 16#4
Does the remote really have a 'Netflix' button?
Paperlantern to Asura
13 Jul 161#5
Yep!
imiskeen to Asura
13 Jul 162#8
One of the two remotes supplied has a dedicated Netflix button. There is also a fairly intuitive touch pad remote that ships as standard.
I've had this TV for a few weeks now and have to say I'm impressed. To date I've managed to side load Mobdro and Showbox, (although showbox stopped working after the last revision) using ES file explorer. (Installed out of curiousity, not coz I use them)
The TV ships with Kodi installed by default (at least mine did?) and that's pretty okay for streaming my movie library (you can do illegal stuff with it as well, if you need / want to) it has built in Chromecast-like facility and in general picture quality is excellent.
It streams UHD using AmazonTV in mind blowing quality. (Better caul Saul is available in UHD) so watched it all again with dropped jaw!
I would highly recommend this TV at this price, however, I paid £769 for mine from Richer sounds with six year warranty in their recent offer. They knocked a few quid off because I also added an A/V receiver into the mix, so there are deals to be had if you shop around.l
WalterSmith
13 Jul 16#7
Ahhhh .. instore price still £899 - JL will only pricematch that
Cameron583 to WalterSmith
14 Jul 16#69
Ring a branch specifically and ask to speak to the floor manager for audio visual, explain the situation. If they're half decent they'll still honour it.
skyarsenal
13 Jul 161#9
what's the difference between this and the 8309 model ?
mariolj to skyarsenal
13 Jul 161#30
X85 has triluminos display and 55" screen size, X83 no triluminos dispaly and 43" and 49" panels.
I have X8509 and agree with all the good reviews here
philmitchell
13 Jul 16#10
Just bought this from richersounds for £899 anyone know if they will give me the £100 back, not even got this yet .
Got a phone call last night and they said it will be here next Tuesday .
2015 to philmitchell
13 Jul 162#14
Phone them and tell them. Say if they can't match the price you'll have to cancel. Well within your rights.
LeonCR to philmitchell
13 Jul 16#17
They should do
I got mine this week but not even had a chance to unbox it yet
dez24
13 Jul 161#11
I have a panasonic blue ray player from many moons ago with a netflix button on it. Godsend at the time.
I like the sound of this tv, kodi box can be used else where too. Heat.
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I do think all of them are being purposefully evasive to make TV's nearly impossible to compare. All that measurements that matter, like bits, nits, hz etc are almost impossible to come by.
I don't give a stuff about motion rates or software bodging, I will just turn it all off as soon as I get it home anyway. Nor do I give a stuff about PQI, your made up over all rating which is designed to obscure what the TV actually is! I want to rate the TV myself, not use some system the manufacturer as devised that doesn't mean anything.
It's so bad, just by looking at the numbers it's very hard to tell a £500 TV and a £1000 TV apart. If they don't tell you what the difference is, what's the incentive to buy the more expensive one?
Can you imagine if they did with this computers or phones? Refused to tell you the spec of what you were actually buying? It would be chaos.
It just feels like the worst possible time to buy a TV. My feeling is if you don't have to, don't. If my Sony hadn't failed at the grand old age of 4 years, I certainly wouldn't be looking now.
All comments (139)
excellent TV for this price. cant go wrong.
I've had this TV for a few weeks now and have to say I'm impressed. To date I've managed to side load Mobdro and Showbox, (although showbox stopped working after the last revision) using ES file explorer. (Installed out of curiousity, not coz I use them)
The TV ships with Kodi installed by default (at least mine did?) and that's pretty okay for streaming my movie library (you can do illegal stuff with it as well, if you need / want to) it has built in Chromecast-like facility and in general picture quality is excellent.
It streams UHD using AmazonTV in mind blowing quality. (Better caul Saul is available in UHD) so watched it all again with dropped jaw!
I would highly recommend this TV at this price, however, I paid £769 for mine from Richer sounds with six year warranty in their recent offer. They knocked a few quid off because I also added an A/V receiver into the mix, so there are deals to be had if you shop around.l
I have X8509 and agree with all the good reviews here
Got a phone call last night and they said it will be here next Tuesday .
I got mine this week but not even had a chance to unbox it yet
I like the sound of this tv, kodi box can be used else where too. Heat.