pls do NOT... i got it from from o2 fresh for £183.99 last Wednesday, and will send it back tomorrow. The well documented overheating issue is so terrible, if you browse the website for over half an hour, you cannot even touch the back of the phone. Stick with you Z3 or get yourself an improved Z5 with a dual heatsink to combat the problem. Z3+ is a terrible phone unless you want to use your phone to boil an egg.

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pls do NOT... i got it from from o2 fresh for £183.99 last Wednesday, and will send it back tomorrow. The well documented overheating issue is so terrible, if you browse the website for over half an hour, you cannot even touch the back of the phone. Stick with you Z3 or get yourself an improved Z5 with a dual heatsink to combat the problem. Z3+ is a terrible phone unless you want to use your phone to boil an egg.

showing £345.26 for me direct from Amazon.

I have the z3+ and love it, it does get hot but doesnt effect my use,

The battery is really good now with the software update has brought stamina mode back

But this is my opinion

Have you updated to Marshmallow? My Z3 was 2-3 days no problem before that (with Stamina mode) but on Marshmallow, which doesn't have Stamina yet, it's down to a day max.

hot deals .. so hot the phone overheats :stuck_out_tongue:

You can't use it underwater, when sealed and turned off it is waterproof, try using it underwater and you'll break the phone

False advertising if I ever saw it. for 250 squids you can get so much more, look at a Xiaomi folks, or perhaps and LG G3 or 4, this is basically a portable frying pan

Great phone, Hi Res audio and waterproof with a 20 mp camera and a full days battery life! What else do you need?

Would anyone know what are the best phones for recording phone calls , please?
Without the need of rooting.
Thanks

so £65 more than the o2 refresh price, still given it's overheating problems guess it shouldn't be a surprise it's got hot

Link in my last post. I was slightly reluctant to put a link foir fear of being accused of having a vested interest (I dont, obviously). I'm not even recommending them as I've never used them. But it is a killer price.

Edit: putting MX4 Pro in google brings it up (it's actually showing in the highlighted, imaged, listings at the top of the page for me).

Yes but a source is needed to show where exactly this Meizu is £107 like you said, as I had a quick search and cant find it close to that.

It's on ebay. Granted, from an Asian seller and with no real warranty (return to China for repairs). But the spec for the price is ridiculous (but no sd card slot so not for users who use a lot of apps/music etc)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MEIZU-MX4-Pro-5-5-2560x1536-Phone-Exynos-Octa-Core-3GB-16GB-4G-LTE-Flyme-Gift-/301958333555?hash=item464e1e8473:g:NqgAAOSwB9xXOcNn

I have the same rear camera in my Meizu MX4 Pro and it's very impressive indeed. Mind you, that can be picked up for as little as 107 quid at the moment....

I think you'll find that review is of the 'lesser; model, the MX4. The MX4 Pro is a whole different beast. The specs I listed earlier should have given you a big clue....

http://www.androidauthority.com/meizu-mx4-pro-review-581794/

Perhaps Sony UK realised that it was lacking in the upgrade specs, hence the "Z3+" name - in a lot of other countries it was the Z4 (which is why we then jumped straight to Z5 afterwards).

I've got a Z3, after the Z and Z2, great phone just wish they'd give us more internal memory, it's a constant battle trying to keep moving everything over to SD.

Not quite the case anymore regarding waterproofing - Sony don't even appear to know: WARNING! Sony decides its waterproof Xperia phones are not actually waterproof

Z3+ was not the brightest idea at the time of release - had the overheating SoC and wasn't much of an improvement over Z3, but at this price it's ok. Just watch the fragile glass on both sides - maybe get a case.

Don't know what happened to Sony. They used to make sexy products. This is the ugliest phone on the market. I don't get it, I really don't.

Not exactly blown away. http://www.androidauthority.com/meizu-mx4-review-573958/
Would stick to a company that's a bit more competent to be honest. But again, up to you if you want to take the risk.

That's more like a downgrade rather than upgrade. That model should've been called Z3-

No, the Meizu isn't waterproof but TBH it really isn't a feature that would top my list (I've never ever had water damage occur on any of the many mobiles I've owned). Things like a QHD+ screen, real HiFi DAC, and incredibly useful, advanced function fingerprint scanner come way higher for me. Not to mention a crazily cheap asking price, of course :man: But each person's requirements are different, I guess.

z3+ has the toasty hot 810 so z3 might still be better.

and z3+ is £184 on the o2 refresh deal mentioned above...

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/z3-plus-o2-refresh-6-x-24-add-39-99-183-99-2458743

I've had iPhone after iPhone.
Went for a change last year and wish I'd done it years ago.
Never had an issue with this phone.
you can do so much more and it's waterproof and has a 20mp camera!!
ticks all the boxes for me folks!

Lots of really bad reviews...

Id go with that - had Z3 for over a year now and cant fault it compared to the S4 had before it is a good quality piece of Kit - hot