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- lukeo44
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sarb_singh1980 to bobbymartini
21 Jun 1610#4
She never had a 'skin colour' in the book - the pigmentation of her skin is not mentioned once. Hollywood's adaptation of the novels chose to have a person of a certain heritage/colour and other may choose to have another. JKR herself states this and the fact she is happy with a directors choice of 'black' or 'white' actors playing the part - so long as character is true to the script. One of the key tenants if the book is that its not the difference of how we look that makes us good or bad, but our actions, words and character.
bobbymartini
21 Jun 164#9
Yes....it was white....the same as it was in all 8 films. All official visual representations of Hermione have, up to this point, been white. The fact she is black in the play annoys me - nothing to do with race, everything to do with continuity. J K Rowling saying she never stated a skin colour is BS. As an advisor on all of the films including a producer credit on the final two, she "signed off" the whole look of the HP universe. She approved Jim Kay's illustrations in the illustrated Philosophers Stone book. Changing it now, just so she can meet so called 'Diversity' quotas is pathetic.
I am not a racist. I would have the same issue if the character of 'Cho Chang' was played by a non asian actor in a future production. Continuity, for me, is very important.
bobbymartini
21 Jun 163#2
It's the script......the one where Hermione completely changes her skin colour.
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nadhaw
21 Jun 16#1
Books £10 or over are free delivery anyway.. Is that a proper book though or the script of the play?
bobbymartini
21 Jun 163#2
It's the script......the one where Hermione completely changes her skin colour.
sarb_singh1980 to bobbymartini
21 Jun 1610#4
She never had a 'skin colour' in the book - the pigmentation of her skin is not mentioned once. Hollywood's adaptation of the novels chose to have a person of a certain heritage/colour and other may choose to have another. JKR herself states this and the fact she is happy with a directors choice of 'black' or 'white' actors playing the part - so long as character is true to the script. One of the key tenants if the book is that its not the difference of how we look that makes us good or bad, but our actions, words and character.
andrewrobinson1970
21 Jun 161#3
It's the script of the play.
As Jk doesn't have time to write it as a novel but we all want to know what happens.
This will be £10 or less everywhere when released. Potentially biggest book launch of the year.
I find WH Smith's very competitive online, usually always the cheapest and they pay UK taxes!
XOXJADEXOX
21 Jun 16#7
I preordered it with water stones same price
Harryisme
21 Jun 161#8
Well I don't know about the illustrations, but on the front cover of the Prisoner of Azkaban, Hermione has the same skin tone as Harry. A book that came out before the movies.
I find the whole argument silly, I think it's obvious JKR intended Hermione to be white, but at the end of the day she doesn't care what the skin tone is as long as the charactor is done justice.
bobbymartini
21 Jun 164#9
Yes....it was white....the same as it was in all 8 films. All official visual representations of Hermione have, up to this point, been white. The fact she is black in the play annoys me - nothing to do with race, everything to do with continuity. J K Rowling saying she never stated a skin colour is BS. As an advisor on all of the films including a producer credit on the final two, she "signed off" the whole look of the HP universe. She approved Jim Kay's illustrations in the illustrated Philosophers Stone book. Changing it now, just so she can meet so called 'Diversity' quotas is pathetic.
I am not a racist. I would have the same issue if the character of 'Cho Chang' was played by a non asian actor in a future production. Continuity, for me, is very important.
Speculator
21 Jun 16#10
As Harryisme above stated, Hermione has the same skin tone as Harryon the original front cover of Prisoner of Azkabam UK and US version.
UK version.
US version
notoriouschucky
22 Jun 162#11
continuity
Ultima2876
22 Jun 161#12
I'm not against any ethnicity in particular, but there is this from chapter 4 of The Prisoner of Azkaban:
> They were there, both of them, sitting outside Florean Fortescue’s Ice Cream Parlor — Ron looking incredibly freckly, Hermione very brown, both waving frantically at him.
Why comment on how brown Hermione looks if that is her regular skin colour?
Harryisme to Ultima2876
22 Jun 16#13
Shhhhh.....pointing stuff like this out makes you a racist according to some people.
Though I do find it amusing being called a racist because you think a charactor who is obviously white is white.
sarb_singh1980 to Ultima2876
22 Jun 16#16
I do see your point (based on the above extracted section of the book)- however, just an FYI* - people of all heritages do tan, and they do get lighter. * you maybe already aware of thid and apologies for pushing the point if you are, but I am making it for some readers may not be aware)
Right now I am darker than my normal 'natural' colour (I'm of Indian heritage), and have had a few comment s already saying I look darker or have got a tan (and yes I have also had the comments saying I look "very brown" and "more Indian") . People do actually comment when skin colour changes - just like in the above comment where Hermione's looks different as does Ron.
Without knowing the starting point of a skin colour or heritage - it is very difficult to determine the heritage based on the 'change' noticed. Names sometime do elude to heritage, or ethnicity - however you do get Africans, Indians, Asians etc... with 'Christian'/European/Caucasians names. With Hermione she may have looked " very brown" at that moment, but she could have started off as a lighter brown and than got darker (we don't know, and her heritage is irrelevant in my opinion. A person is not the pigmentation of one particular organ - their skin. A person/character is so much more. )
As side from this point - the books are about characters, personalities and struggles - something we can agree most people can relate to.
badbunny42
22 Jun 161#14
I'm fairly sure that JKR didn't paint the covers
sarb_singh1980
22 Jun 16#15
I did not accuse you of being a racist nor did I intend to imply you to be one. So, if my lack of clarity in my post lead you to assume that I accused you of racism - for this lack of clarity I will apologise, and say to all readers that my words or intentions were not to accuse you of racism.
However I stand by what I wrote and I will reiterate that to sum up a whole piece of work as "It's the script......the one where Hermione completely changes her skin colour." does a disservice to the message of not just the book and play, but also the wishes of the author. A more apt description when asked what this deal relates to would have possibly been: 'it's the script, based on the new show' - full stop. To summarise a whole piece of work based on an actors skin colour is akin, in my opinion, to summarising all the works of Shakespeare as the one where people wear old fashioned clothes or speak in odd verse - it does nothing to describe the narrative, characters personalities or production value or context of its production.
I'm not going to get involved in a back and forth discussion on here (my life, as I hope everyone's is busy with more relevant day to day tasks) but I did want to do you the courtesy of replying to your post - based on my post (namely to clarify to that my intension was not for you to get the impression that I think you are racist, because I do not think that.).
sarb_singh1980
22 Jun 161#17
who precisely 'called' anyone - let a lone you - a racist? Is it something you are frequently called or just something you frequently assumed people are saying about you behind your back?
Point stuff does not make you a racist - but deliberately attempting to blow up and twist OTHER PEOPLES discussions and debate in a non constructive manner and offering nothing but bile does make you a sh*t stirrer (feel free to quote me on that - it actually something I have written, implied, and stand by).
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I am not a racist. I would have the same issue if the character of 'Cho Chang' was played by a non asian actor in a future production. Continuity, for me, is very important.
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As Jk doesn't have time to write it as a novel but we all want to know what happens.
This will be £10 or less everywhere when released. Potentially biggest book launch of the year.
I'd wait.
£10 at WH Smith, free delivery to store and 5% TCB:
http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/harry-potter-and-the-cursed-child---parts-one--two-special-rehearsal-edition-parts-i--ii---the-official-script-book-of-the-original-west-end-production/9780751565355
I find WH Smith's very competitive online, usually always the cheapest and they pay UK taxes!
I find the whole argument silly, I think it's obvious JKR intended Hermione to be white, but at the end of the day she doesn't care what the skin tone is as long as the charactor is done justice.
I am not a racist. I would have the same issue if the character of 'Cho Chang' was played by a non asian actor in a future production. Continuity, for me, is very important.
UK version.
US version
> They were there, both of them, sitting outside Florean Fortescue’s Ice Cream Parlor — Ron looking incredibly freckly, Hermione very brown, both waving frantically at him.
Why comment on how brown Hermione looks if that is her regular skin colour?
Though I do find it amusing being called a racist because you think a charactor who is obviously white is white.
Right now I am darker than my normal 'natural' colour (I'm of Indian heritage), and have had a few comment s already saying I look darker or have got a tan (and yes I have also had the comments saying I look "very brown" and "more Indian") . People do actually comment when skin colour changes - just like in the above comment where Hermione's looks different as does Ron.
Without knowing the starting point of a skin colour or heritage - it is very difficult to determine the heritage based on the 'change' noticed. Names sometime do elude to heritage, or ethnicity - however you do get Africans, Indians, Asians etc... with 'Christian'/European/Caucasians names. With Hermione she may have looked " very brown" at that moment, but she could have started off as a lighter brown and than got darker (we don't know, and her heritage is irrelevant in my opinion. A person is not the pigmentation of one particular organ - their skin. A person/character is so much more. )
As side from this point - the books are about characters, personalities and struggles - something we can agree most people can relate to.
However I stand by what I wrote and I will reiterate that to sum up a whole piece of work as "It's the script......the one where Hermione completely changes her skin colour." does a disservice to the message of not just the book and play, but also the wishes of the author. A more apt description when asked what this deal relates to would have possibly been: 'it's the script, based on the new show' - full stop. To summarise a whole piece of work based on an actors skin colour is akin, in my opinion, to summarising all the works of Shakespeare as the one where people wear old fashioned clothes or speak in odd verse - it does nothing to describe the narrative, characters personalities or production value or context of its production.
I'm not going to get involved in a back and forth discussion on here (my life, as I hope everyone's is busy with more relevant day to day tasks) but I did want to do you the courtesy of replying to your post - based on my post (namely to clarify to that my intension was not for you to get the impression that I think you are racist, because I do not think that.).
Point stuff does not make you a racist - but deliberately attempting to blow up and twist OTHER PEOPLES discussions and debate in a non constructive manner and offering nothing but bile does make you a sh*t stirrer (feel free to quote me on that - it actually something I have written, implied, and stand by).