Don't spread your virus here. Android is a disease of an OS.

I doubt if any other 5 year old / second hand 'phone was posted here it would get hot. Apple glasses.

Stupid comment really.

It doesn't really matter if it's only £10. 8GB and outdated tech means it's pretty much unusable.

You can pick up a droid for a few quid extra.

Not enough memory spend £30 more and get 5s and this is the slowest phone as every year is gets worse with updates thanks

Are they locked to O2 network?

8gig! :/

Not enough memory spend £30 more and get 5s and this is the slowest phone as every year is gets worse with updates thanks

Mine is running 9.3.1 and it is perfectly OK for my needs. I don't do games, so can't comment on performance there. Everything else is fine.

8gb sucks on these phones - you don't actually get that, you get 5gb. I have little in the way of apps, no games, and have to delete apps if i want to download a new one. This is my work phone so stuck with it. I replaced my 8gb android because of similar issues, it's not big enough memory for modern phones.

I can't think who I would ever feel comfortable recommends a 4s at this point. Given that you can pickup a 5s on eBay for around £30 more with double the speed/storage, lightening etc.

So many better phones can be had new for this price. The phone is far past it's prime

Stupid comment really.

It doesn't really matter if it's only £10. 8GB and outdated tech means it's pretty much unusable.

You can pick up a droid for a few quid extra.

Don't spread your virus here. Android is a disease of an OS.

Search this site - there was a deal posted recently for 5S on O2 refresh for £96.

just cos it's cheap doesn't mean it's practical , for instance would you buy a 4gb (if they had one) for £35 if you could only install 2 apps at a time , probably no

8gb....Whats app and maybe a couple of apps and thats it. No thanks. Theres very VERY few can get by so limited by their phone

Also, given the age of these, what's the battery going to be like?

Great to give to a tween moaning for an iPhone so they can fit in with their friends at school I suppose.

I bought a refurb 5s from O2. It was supplied unlocked but locks to the network of the first sim you register it with. I'm currently using mine with 3.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/unlocked-grade-a-refurb-16gb-iphone-5s-12-month-warranty-o2-for-153-99-2428469

Yes it is spreading virulently......... Hopefully the cancer that consumes iOS.

Spend an extra £40 and get a 5S, seriously. The 4S is a very, very old phone.

We have an old one knocking around and it runs the latest OS fine. The only reason it isn't used any longer is that the battery is knocking on five years old and lasts about three hours.

Very tidy little phone for the price.

I've had a 4S as a work phone for over 3 and a half years and it's still very usable.

I love this phone, I know it is slow but you can disable some of the flashy stuff in iOS to speed things up. SIRI however is absolutely brilliant on this, the 8 gb thing you will struggle with however, spotify, google music, etc. Photos can be stored online and streamed directly to the phone. Using a moto x previously taught me how to get around memory constraints.
I just wished we could overclock this phone and drop a bit more ram in!

Bargain if you can get R2D2. But probably out of stock.

I doubt if any other 5 year old / second hand 'phone was posted here it would get hot. Apple glasses.

Keep an eye on the o2 refresh 5s grade b but near enough new have been £96 recently with up to 10 months Apple warranty.

Thats a 5 year old phone and it still receives updates, you'd be hard pressed to find one of the same age running Android/Blackberry OS/Symbian/Web OS/Windows that still receives updates/is running the latest OS version from the OEM/OS provider.

5–year old, locked to o2, second hand,cold voted

does anyone know if o2 iPhones can be unlocked cheaply?
on ebay there are ads for around £12-£15 but thats too much.

I'm looking for a spare/temporary phone while I sell my main phone and waiting to buy the next one.

This a decent price for a basic phone. It will get you into or keep you in the Apple eco system if that's what you want. Only an idiot will think someone buying it is expecting it to compete with an iPhone 6. Not everyone uses smart phones as PCs or for games. Phone calls, messages, whatsapp email etc. It will handle all that perfectly. Personally at this price point I would prefer an Android based phone over this, but for someone wanting an iPhone its a decent price.

It's also pretty easy and cheap to change the battery.

Post #6 would seem to be using this and having no issues. Might just be a case of certain requirements for certain people

Perfect if your just using it as a "phone" and are one of those blind Apple zombie people that thinks they're better than everyone else because they have an Apple logo on their devices.

​Yeah I guess it's a disease if you can't read :wink:...All these iOS users complaining that Andriod is too complicated. Not everyone wants to limit themselves to what Apple decides is necessary.

that was grade B, grade A was £144 on o2 refresh.

Yeah but everyone reports it was excellent condition and sooner have 5S, 16GB, etc for that bit extra. Could never see the attraction of iPhones before they started enlarging the screen, but obviously this is very subjective and individual. Even now, I'm not a compete convert (but then I have never used iTunes etc. - I can understand those that are completely within the hardware and software ecosystem).

All depends if the phone is unlocked or locks to the first sim that you insert. If it is automatically locked to O2 then it is a headache for most people.

If it is unlocked or locks to your network and you are able to use it for 12 months without issue then I can see its value. O2 usually despatch the phones promptly (unlike most people's experience of Vodafone for the Z3 or G3 etc) and should honour any issues in the 12 months.

If it is locked to O2, for PAYG at least the O2 network using carriers have all increased their prices - Giffgaff, Lycamobile, Tesco - the only good tariff is on toggle @3p per min - 9p per text - has anyone actually used them?

This is £69. For £69 you could barely buy a better phone for 'spare phone' use, and if it's just as a second phone then I don't see how the storage is a problem. Let's say you go biking at the weekends and don't want to carry your 6S Plus with you, but want access to your iMessage and Facetime...for some people this would be a great purchase, and saying 'for only £40 more you can get this and that' is pretty meaningless when you're looking at these sort of prices, since £40 more is over 50% more expensive.

It's not that. Complicated isn't a word I'd use to describe Android. Messy, yes, complicated, no.

And you have used it well enough to know it.

Lumia 635 - £24.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/nokia/lumia-635-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

Lumia 435 - £24.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/microsoft/lumia-435-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

Lumia 535 - £29.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/microsoft/lumia-535-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

Lumia 550 £39.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/microsoft/lumia-550-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

Lumia 640 - £69.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/microsoft/lumia-640-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

Lumia 735 - £89.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/nokia/lumia-735-grade-a-refurb/#contractType=payasyougo

I have a Galaxy Note 5..probably the best android phone out there..ok..now I also use an iPad and I used to have an iPhone 6 before the Note 5..I also have various android devices like TV box etc..what you saying about iOS being limited is utter bull crap.
android is messy..it lacks polish and wastes a lot of hardware resources..it is powerful and gives nice options like file management but all at the cost of being annoying,full of bugs,wasting so much time due to being not user-friendly and it's not safe at all.iOS does everything,yes EVERYTHING much better.it doesn't let you install malware infested pirated apps yes..and it doesn't let you do file management like android but thats about it.
both systems have positives and negatives but in the end iOS wins for being much more reliable,slick,efficient,safe.
as I said I own and work with both systems and with high end devices of each.so I know what I'm talking about unlike some.

Not for long my friend

still a good phone so nice price

Plus £10 top up ?

Topup not compulsory

​why?

Thank you for reply, can't find any option to select without top tough

Pick any and it doesn't make you topup online, it just shows you what you get for that amount when you do topup.

I have recently offloaded my secondary handset to my mom so hmm.... this looks tempting.

Finally a normal price for Apple hardware!!!

Tried to buy this as good price but could het phone without adding top up
Went from apple to windows phone
Worse move ever

I use this phone everyday, I don't feel embrassed using it, I was also told it looks like a iPhone SE lol. I will upgrade very soon when the price drops even more on the iPhone 6.

Eurrgghh.... an 8Gb old iPhone. It's like the equivalent of buying a theoretical 800cc M Reg Mercedes with 1 car seat, 3 wheels and no boot. Still works, but you really should have just bought a cheap Fiesta instead of wasting your money purely for that badge.

Of course you can get better phones, but you cant get better operating systems than apple so unfortunately you have to buy an iPhone.

He hasn't driven a Fiesta.

Great I can finally upgrade from my 3GS at this price.

Hi, can anyone confirm if they're locked to 02 or otherwise, I could do with a backup phone but I'm on EE ?

I went into the O2 store at the weekend. Assistant says can only be bought with top up and is locked to 02, also cost a few quid to get it unlocked. I tried again but it won't let me check out without adding top up. Still a good deal though, regret massively getting rid of mine last year. I Phones still rock!

If anyone has bought this item online and can comment on the lock status of the device I would be grateful. For £70 and unlocked/locks to first sim I'd be prepared to spend the money. I am looking for a cheap, compact smartphone.

On eBay there seems to be numerous sellers who are able to unlock the 4s for circa £12 but the device's price point attractiveness diminishes if you have to spend extra to unlock.

phone has arrived, i would say its borderline grade A.
But more worryingly the phone came completely without any charge.
Not a good sign for the battery ?

update: phone won't even power on.

just send it back and ask for a replacement.chances are this time you will get one in mint condition too.