This may be useful to someone.
Passively cooled Mini ITX motherboard Celeron J1800 (Integrated), mITX, DDR3 (max 16GB), 1 x USB3, 4 x USB2, 2 x SATA2, DSub, DVI-D, HDMI
But, if you don't need to to run Windows then you may be better with a raspberry pi.
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M0nk3h to donslibi
19 Apr 169#5
*Sigh* It's a Mini-ITX board with a built in dual core Celeron clocked quite reasonable for £26, supports DDR3 1333MHz and PCI-E, and you think it's cold, why?
mrunderhill2 to emodan
19 Apr 166#2
You could put it in a case like this:-
xela333
19 Apr 164#27
It's the way you worded it, first saying it's a poor cpu, then no good for a media pc, without any explanation or examples. You got a backlash because it's not very helpful.
M0nk3h
19 Apr 164#7
...but it's still not a reason to vote cold. It's a deal and thus hot. Obviously doesn't suit to your needs but it's still adequate as a small PC for browsing and such.
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BurnToasT333
22 Apr 16#44
didn't see that they are charging 22 for postage, sure there are sellers not charging. and odd it was in English when i shared the link now its German.
3guesses
22 Apr 16#43
That's coming up as £44.06 delivered (I think - the page is displaying in German for some reason).
Out of stock now. I had a chat with them and they apparently aren't going to stock them in the future. I'm gutted I've missed them but instead I went for cheapest AMD motherboard form eBay plus A4 with fan for £20 from eBay (new) so I got nice set for £43 (much better performance but £20 more expensive)
Richdog
21 Apr 16#39
It's because the general defintion of a "media PC" is not one that game, it is one that can play and stream HD/4k media. Your definition appears to be different to the rest of the world.
nige182
21 Apr 16#38
Just wanted to add, I recently bought these two items to add Wifi (and Bluetooth) to my above setup, I do NOT recommend this pair of items together. I do not know if it is the card or the antennas but without the antennas attached there is no wifi signal at all, with them attached it is very bad, I pick up a neighbours wifi with maybe two bars, but mine which is in the next room is sporadically found at one bar strength, my laptop and other PCs tested in the same location get a full or near full signal.
I can't remember what RAM I got but it was 8GB SO-DIMM DDR3 from Amazon (well, Flubit or Bespoke Offers using the Amazon price), and reused an old SSD.
Can you recommend any? maybe pico psu and small itx case?
3guesses
20 Apr 16#34
OK, thanks 8-)
yanick
20 Apr 161#33
It has a PCI express slot; you could add a couple of extra ports for about a fiver
(search eBay for item 281719634129 for an example).
xela333
20 Apr 16#32
Sorry mate, didn't want to cause an argument, just wanted to cover both sides of what this is capable of
Oneday77
20 Apr 162#31
Not if they are both Mexican.
Bitofageek
20 Apr 16#30
and the fact that literally no one agreed :smiley:
donslibi
19 Apr 16#29
Plenty of explanation in my comments including potential uses and benchmarks.
3guesses
19 Apr 16#28
Shame that it only has 2 SATA slots 8-(
xela333
19 Apr 164#27
It's the way you worded it, first saying it's a poor cpu, then no good for a media pc, without any explanation or examples. You got a backlash because it's not very helpful.
vmistery
19 Apr 16#26
Make a great NAS or mini server box. You can get a case plus psu for under £30 quid.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#25
For me, my media PC needs to do more. Like I said, it depends on what you want. Just saying not to expect too much from this CPU. Funny how wound up people get from an honest comment. Saying I have no clue when in fact you have no clue about what I know or don't know says it all :smiley:
xela333
19 Apr 16#24
Yep you have no idea. For me a media pc would be able to handle Blu-ray rips, kodi, Netflix, Spotify and web browsing. Which this can handle perfectly while being silent and using very little power.
Andaho
19 Apr 16#23
I have had this running as a file server, with windows 10, for the last 18 months+... It's great for this job... I have a couple raspberry pi as media players (kodi) and the kodi WOL feature for it works great... the server wakes from sleep and is ready to stream within 2 seconds.
I bought the Gigabyte J1800 board a while ago, built a mini-PC with a SO-DIMM ram deal from Amazon, a cheap knock-off PicoPSU from China, and an old SSD I had running spare and put it in one of these cases. The case isn't the best looking but it has a small footprint and is easy to work with. I just bought an Intel Wifi/Bluetooth card for it as well.
vulcanproject
19 Apr 16#21
It is somewhere in the range of a Core 2 E4300. I had one of these chips in a tertiary windows 7 machine a few years ago and then gave it away to someone using it for just browsing and basic stuff, great thing for the job required. I think said CPU only came out in about 2007, and it was one of the best budget chips around.
It's amazing to think this is pretty much equivalent performance. Ok, 8 years is quite a long time in the world of PC technology, but I would imagine if you paired this with at least 4GB of RAM and a small SSD it would be more than adequate to browse the internet and do low level tasks.
The key with this sort of system is to use an SSD. If you use a mechanical drive then the machine feels horribly slower than it could be. Considering there are now half decent 120GB SSDs for like £30 there is no excuse.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#20
I said its not powerful enough to be useful as an HTPC, not that it can't be used as one at all. Depends what you use yours for. HD. 4k, light gaming (e.g. MK or Bioshock). I wouldn't name-call or lose sleep over it :wink:
What can / can't you run smoothly on your build? That might be more constructive
DrManhattan
19 Apr 16#19
You clearly haven't got a clue. Check Amazon reviews.
Also I have a mitx with the J1900 chip, which in cpuboss shows little difference.
On that fact go and read these these reviews on Amazon of a J1900 chip mitx board: 'Asrock Mod CEL ASRock Q1900DC-ITX' Just becuase it's a dual core celeron doesn't mean it isn't good for a htpc.
Idiot.
spadgey1
19 Apr 16#18
Would this outperform a N40L Microserver's stock CPU? Could be a cheap upgrade for an old microserver.
3guesses
19 Apr 16#17
Can't be used for HTPC? And yet this is the blurb from the novatech website:
3guesses
19 Apr 16#16
"Two men says they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong."
pete_l
19 Apr 16#15
The spec. at Amazon says the max. RAM is 8GB.
sotomonkey
19 Apr 16#14
Interesting. I'd need to buy some ram thuogh. I have some hard drives lying around that I could use, so wouldn't it be easier for me to just buy a PSU + a cheap mini ITX case + some ram rather than trying to savage parts from old computers.
Any suggestions on cheap deals on those respective parts?
emodan
19 Apr 16#13
Pick up a second hand office pc for 20 quid on eBay and bam psu and mini itx case cheap as chips
M0nk3h
19 Apr 16#12
I'm perfectly happy, I just don't get the logic of some people. Voting cold on what is clearly a deal because apparently it's useless.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#11
Yes, that's because the i3 is faster so it's normal for your old laptop to not feel as snappy, and the benchmarks on that site clearly show this:
Sorry but i don't believe this ranking at all, lots of this scores haven't been updated in years. You have on one list results from 2009 and results from 2015, the problem is that they come from different version of benchmark. for example my old laptop with t9600 with ssd inside don't feel as snappy as brand new laptop equipped with i3-6100U.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#8
Nothing to do with my needs as I don't need one. Its not much of a deal when you think about practically. Might be ok for browsing but that's it. I wouldn't get too upset, you're not even the OP.
M0nk3h
19 Apr 164#7
...but it's still not a reason to vote cold. It's a deal and thus hot. Obviously doesn't suit to your needs but it's still adequate as a small PC for browsing and such.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#6
Because its not worth the hassle when you quickly realise it's not powerful enough to be useful as an HTPC, and mini itx builds are not the easiest to disassemble and change out parts. I'd recommend a decent motherboard for not much more that will last longer and allow a much better CPU to be fitted.
donslibi
19 Apr 16#3
Poor CPU and only 1 USB 3 port. Cold
M0nk3h to donslibi
19 Apr 169#5
*Sigh* It's a Mini-ITX board with a built in dual core Celeron clocked quite reasonable for £26, supports DDR3 1333MHz and PCI-E, and you think it's cold, why?
bothered
19 Apr 16#4
like all mini itxs', i struggle to find a decent cheap case to justify any cheap m-itx that i find.
emodan
19 Apr 16#1
tempted to buy this and throw it in an old PC i have lying around in order to give to my grandparents in the future. Anyone used this CPU for normal browsing etc?
Opening post
Passively cooled Mini ITX motherboard Celeron J1800 (Integrated), mITX, DDR3 (max 16GB), 1 x USB3, 4 x USB2, 2 x SATA2, DSub, DVI-D, HDMI
Good reviews on Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Intel-Celeron-Mini-Itx-Motherboard/dp/B00HUFI2AS
But, if you don't need to to run Windows then you may be better with a raspberry pi.
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It's the way you worded it, first saying it's a poor cpu, then no good for a media pc, without any explanation or examples. You got a backlash because it's not very helpful.
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Intel 7260HMW BN - note there are also better cards in the Intel 7260HMW series, but I would have expected performance from this card to be adequate
Pair of PCI-E Laptop Mini PCI Wireless Wifi Bluetooth Internal Dual Antenna
Case £22.29 delivered
Pico PSU £9.04 delivered from China (this may or may not be the seller I bought from, I just got the cheapest available at the time and this is the cheapest on eBay that I could find right now)
120W (12v 10A) mains supply £9.04 delivered from China, as above this may or may not be the one I bought as I actually got it several months prior anyway
I can't remember what RAM I got but it was 8GB SO-DIMM DDR3 from Amazon (well, Flubit or Bespoke Offers using the Amazon price), and reused an old SSD.
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/category?type=case&volume=over-0&drive-bays=over-0&sortby=price&page=1
If you don't mind something larger you can get ones with a standard PSU, I am looking at this one for a home NAS but haven't decided yet:
https://linitx.com/product/cfi-a7879-miniitx-nasserver-case-4-hot-swap-bays/12789
If you can deal with a bit more size and don't mind a fan you can get something much cheaper like this though:
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/colors-it-mtx001b-black-mini-itx-case-with-300w-psu
(search eBay for item 281719634129 for an example).
Sorry mate, didn't want to cause an argument, just wanted to cover both sides of what this is capable of
It's the way you worded it, first saying it's a poor cpu, then no good for a media pc, without any explanation or examples. You got a backlash because it's not very helpful.
Yep you have no idea. For me a media pc would be able to handle Blu-ray rips, kodi, Netflix, Spotify and web browsing. Which this can handle perfectly while being silent and using very little power.
The other reason I chose the J1800 was power consumption, but I initially used an old PSU for it that wasn't efficient at all, but when it died, I replaced it and wrote a review mentioning my setup that you can find here: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/430w-seasonic-eco-series-85-eff-80-plus-bronze-2x-18a-plus12v-dual-rail-1x-120mm-fan-eps-haswell-rea
It's amazing to think this is pretty much equivalent performance. Ok, 8 years is quite a long time in the world of PC technology, but I would imagine if you paired this with at least 4GB of RAM and a small SSD it would be more than adequate to browse the internet and do low level tasks.
The key with this sort of system is to use an SSD. If you use a mechanical drive then the machine feels horribly slower than it could be. Considering there are now half decent 120GB SSDs for like £30 there is no excuse.
What can / can't you run smoothly on your build? That might be more constructive
Also I have a mitx with the J1900 chip, which in cpuboss shows little difference.
On that fact go and read these these reviews on Amazon of a J1900 chip mitx board: 'Asrock Mod CEL ASRock Q1900DC-ITX' Just becuase it's a dual core celeron doesn't mean it isn't good for a htpc.
Idiot.
Any suggestions on cheap deals on those respective parts?
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+T9600+%40+2.80GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2623
http://m.cpubenchmark.net/midlow_range_cpus.html