Alternatively, same item, same price available from there eBay
shop http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13Kg-Butane-Re-Fill-Gas-Cylinder-/262369120315?hash=item3d166b103b
## see post #98, 13kg butane available for £18.85 delivered ##
credit to Monkeybumcheeks
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Dyslexic_Dog to jai47
8 Apr 165#8
Just get the same type of bottle and the contents will be the same, it's not rocket science...although it may be if anything goes wrong! :-)
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Monkeybumcheeks
11 Apr 16#102
Their prices suit me !
andynicol
11 Apr 16#101
'Your deal was removed due to being from an unsuitable merchant.'
Monkeybumcheeks
11 Apr 16#100
I thought they would be cheaper, but that's very good!
I wonder why the deal was deleted?
andynicol
11 Apr 16#99
Woldlink deal thread deleted by a mod...
Monkeybumcheeks
9 Apr 16#67
Did anyone call Woldlink to check their prices?
Have a look at my previous posts people!
andynicol to Monkeybumcheeks
9 Apr 16#69
I tried and they were closed.
How much are they for a full butane cylinder delivered ?
3 days lead time, order via telephone on 01507 605 230
Nice find.
dinosteveus
10 Apr 16#97
Give it a rest, you're beginning to bore me.
paulandpam1
10 Apr 16#96
FFS we're going around in circles here.
'Propane bottles are NOT allowed to be stored indoors because they have a higher risk of leakage because they contain a greater gas pressure in the bottle than Butane bottles.
Butane has a lower bottle pressure so is considered safer to be stored and used indoors in room heaters etc because of the lower risk of gas escaping.
Is my comment #43 really that complicated to understand??
poisondwarf
10 Apr 16#95
You know something?
Thats applies to most companies, both big and small
dinosteveus
10 Apr 16#94
You know nothing about me, so don't make statements about what I do and don't know.
As for calor, they are quite happy to turn a blind eye when convenient and they can pass the buck if something goes wrong.
It's not a fact, propane blow heaters are inside. Propane gas bottles for caravans are stored in a little cupboard.
There's a calor supplier in Luton who stores all his bottle's inside his shop, now that is dangerous, over 200 various bottles but it's Luton so doesn't matter.
As with all lpg you must have adequate ventilation when using gas
paulandpam1
10 Apr 16#91
But actual facts are clever!!
sadact06
9 Apr 16#88
Dabara. I have a couple of spares that have been sat out in all weathers for a couple of years, apart from a bit of moss they are fine and i expect them to last a good few years!:innocent:
dabara to sadact06
9 Apr 16#90
Thanks you mate.
andynicol
9 Apr 16#89
Agreed.
My estimate of 6/7 years was a conservative estimate of course.
Propane cylinders would I imagine last longer before corroding as propane freezes at a lower temperature than butane, with butane freezing at -10 I think it would affect cylinders quicker...?
I'm certainly no expert though and just making educated guesses and may be way off the mark.... :wink:
dabara
9 Apr 16#87
Actually, Yes.I want to stock up. :smiley:. lets say for next 3 years
dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#86
Agreed but rust on these bottles would take many years to take hold and weaken the integrity and become dangerous.
The 47kg bottles are left outside for years and years.
The difference between a calor 15kg butane bottle and a 13kg propane bottle (apart from the contents) is a coat of paint. The bottles are made to withstand outside temps.
dabara
9 Apr 16#84
Is there a expiry date for these cylinders?
andynicol to dabara
9 Apr 16#85
Looking to stock up? :smile:
Gas itself won't go 'off', but the danger would be the cylinder rusting/corroding and the gas escaping, kept in a watertight shed/garage, I'd say these would still be good after 6/7 years..?
Care would have to be taken in extreme winter though, Butane doesn't like the cold.
poisondwarf
9 Apr 16#83
All good points
andynicol
9 Apr 16#82
It does, but you specifically asked if propane can be used in a heater designed for use with butane.
Can this heater cope with the extra pressure?
Can this heater cope with the extra heat?
I'd be wary that using propane in a butane designed heater would produce carbon monoxide in a larger qty than in normal use.
Best you contact the manufacturer of the heater.
poisondwarf
9 Apr 16#81
And butane doesnt?
gasmankev
9 Apr 16#80
But they will still be Beaten on price in Lancashire and Cumbria
andynicol
9 Apr 16#79
ah, I thought you'd used them for butane previously?
Also couldn't see any of your previous deals for cylinders?
gasmankev
9 Apr 161#74
Payed £20.00 yesterday from lpg4u for a 13kg bottle of gas yesterday with a 21m fitting with no bottle to exchange and no deposit.
They only deliver in Lancashire and Cumbria though.
You won't see any prices on the website but if you gave them a ring on 0808 141 0515 .
They only charge £45.00 for there 47kg propane bottles which I found cheaper than any where else
Monkeybumcheeks to gasmankev
9 Apr 16#76
That's a decent price, but woldlink will deliver anywhere in the UK.
andynicol to gasmankev
9 Apr 16#78
Nice heads up for those in that area.
andynicol
9 Apr 16#77
Pretty sure the reason is because burning propane gives off carbon monoxide...?
gasmankev
9 Apr 161#75
Give lpg4u a ring they will beat any gas bottle price in Lancashire and Cumbria
Monkeybumcheeks
9 Apr 16#73
I've not checked personally but if their propane prices are anything to go buy, they will be far cheaper than gasdeal.
poisondwarf
9 Apr 16#72
Ok
but as another contributor to this thread has mentioned, mobile homes use propane
dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#62
Most **** and mobile home residents use 47kg propane for cooking and heating. That being said , the bottle is outside, but obviously the hoses /pipes go inside.
poisondwarf to dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#71
That is very true
andynicol
9 Apr 16#70
The indoor portable cabinet style heaters ?
If so, then no, propane should not be used indoors.
poisondwarf
9 Apr 16#68
Does the same swap, from butane to propane, work in one of those portable calor heaters?
scuzzlebutt
9 Apr 16#63
My heater currently has a 15kg Calor bottle in it, how much physically smaller are these 13kg bottles?
andynicol to scuzzlebutt
9 Apr 16#66
Slightly smaller, it fits fine in a portable gas heater cabinet.
Jimat
9 Apr 161#65
Good deal, same price as I pay for 7.5kg Calor gas.
Just ordered this online, confirmed by text and email
carolholloway68
9 Apr 16#64
I bought some from them a few weeks ago for my caravan and it was £28.99 for 19KG for propane!!
dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#41
Butane, calors blue bottle's are normally used for heaters and the propane, calors red bottle's are normally used for cooking and some blow heaters. All that being said, if you change the regulator as shown above both bottles will work in either.
The forklift bootle has a 'L' shaped pipe inside and enables the forklift to work off the liquid lpg not the gas like everything else.
This is a good deal.
paulandpam1 to dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#43
The reason domestic room heaters only use butane is because Propane must NEVER be stored indoors because it's at a much higher pressure in the bottle than butane and therefore more likely to spring a leak.
Therefore Butane is safer for indoor use but Propane is a much better gas for outside use because of its lower freezing temperature.
andynicol to dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#61
I don't think thats quite accurate?
Butane is normally used for BBQ's and indoor heaters.
Propane is normally used in outdoor (patio) heaters, and is also commonly used in ventilated garages/workshops in fan heaters.
Of course, as you say changing the regulator means you can use either, BUT propane should only be used in ventilated areas so is NOT recommended for domestic indoor heaters.
firefly2000uk
9 Apr 16#60
Where's the fun in filling up balloons with standard Helium?
Just need to wait for them to light some candles and have my camera ready for the action. :sunglasses:
dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#59
You never know with some people on here, lol
freccle
9 Apr 161#58
I don't think it was meant seriously lol. how to make a party go with a bang
larrylightweight
9 Apr 161#57
I used these when it was £21.99 good service quick turnaround
firefly2000uk
9 Apr 16#54
Great, I've been on the lookout for cheap gas. Got a friends wedding coming up soon.
Would it be easy enough to make an adapter so I can fill up party balloons?
dinosteveus to firefly2000uk
9 Apr 16#56
Idiot , filling up balloons with an highly inflammable gas. Guess you don't like your friends lol
Use these at work on my twin burner for cooking, boiling water etc. Its kept outside, inside a plastic tub to keep the frost off, and works fine all year. Good price and delivery was fast enough. Heat.....:laughing:
abaxas
9 Apr 161#52
Milev
8 Apr 16#26
I know some people who are filling their bottles at the petrol station. They just install on their not so expensive cars outside filler with adaptor on the inside and pretend that is a lpg car. I think 13kg is about 20-25 liters so £0.50 per litter comes around £10-12 per canister. Just for the negative comments after I will say I would do the same thing if I used gas for heating.
_g_ to Milev
9 Apr 16#51
Normal selling price. I've never had to return a cylinder. A cheap adaptor won't sense the pressure, so you need to have it completely empty.
It is considered very naughty and quite possibly illegal, because if you overfill, you've got the chance of it exploding with temperature changes.
I've looked at the more expensive systems you can't overfill, but for the couple of cans a year I use, it would take far too long to recover the investment and would be a bit more hassle on that too.
blinder
9 Apr 161#50
ordered 4 last year for me & family members was same price NO RETURN BOTTLE NEEDED. 10/10 for service, delivery driver even told them round back of house and went out of his way to put them on the patio need to bbq :smiley: I can highly recommend & cheaper then all my local suppliers.
freejack2k
9 Apr 161#49
Got this last year, bought the tank and the regulator to replace B&Q standard one. It's still virtually full unlike the dwarf B&Q one i had that needed filling about twice a year at the extortionate price B&Q charges.
Excellent company aswell, i phoned up for advice on regulator and they were really helpful and delivery was very quick.
A true bargain
sandstone1
9 Apr 162#48
' freezing temperatures' Ah the great british summer.
dinosteveus
9 Apr 16#47
Behave yourself, scaremongering is not clever. :confused:
Monkeybumcheeks
9 Apr 16#46
Just checked and gasdeal are charging £59.99 for 47kg !!!!
I get the 47kg propane bottles delivered for £44.99 via WOLDLINK. No idea how much they charge for these small ones, but it might be worth giving them a bell for a quote.:smirk:
endothecat
9 Apr 161#42
Good price, but there vs their please.
eset12345
8 Apr 16#39
how is this hot? its their normal selling price
andynicol to eset12345
8 Apr 161#40
Despite being GasDeals' normal price (although has been even lower at £21.99), it is substantially lower than other gas suppliers, specifically for first time buyers, i.e. no deposit or empty required.
simonenglish791
8 Apr 161#38
Thanks for the link andy muxh appreciated - ordered
pvfc247
8 Apr 161#37
Great deal :wink:
simonenglish791
8 Apr 16#35
Can't see the option to add to cart am I missing something or has deal expired?
andynicol to simonenglish791
8 Apr 161#36
I'm guessing the website has reached its quota for sales on that item....?
The price hasn't 'expired' just temporarily unavailable..(see posts 15 & 19)
They also have an eBay page seen here, same price, same item.
Alternatively you could call them ; 0845 270 7134.
As is normal after the deal is posted on here, they are no doubt inundated with orders.
Rogietman
8 Apr 161#34
If you try the 7kg butane, it gives the option of return / new bottle so this is a fantastic price for 13kg with no return, thanks - ordered for caravan and bbq!!
andynicol
8 Apr 16#33
As has been stated previous, your link says it has a propane regulator, to utilise the cheaper butane cylinder you would have to change the regulator.
See post #1 with pic of the 21mm clip-on butane regulator, these aren't unique to this deal, they are industry standard and the vast majority of butane cylinders use this same regulator.
GasDeal do them for £8.99, or are also available at your local caravan park/showroom, also seen on Amazon/eBay and such like, Amazon example
These are simple to change, only required a screwdriver and soapy water in a spray bottle.
Remove old one (as its new you may find its not even connected to the hose as yet?)
Fit new one with worm drive / jubilee clip.
Spray on soapy water over the clip and hose end, open valve gently until fully open, if you see bubbles forming then close valve and tighten the clip.
Done!
freccle
8 Apr 161#32
Been using these for about 12 months. great service
paulandpam1
8 Apr 16#31
Yes it will BUT read my comments in post # 16
thermomonkey
8 Apr 161#30
Great deal thanks OP.
mmm24v
8 Apr 161#29
Looking at the link it suggests your bbq needs propane,looks like that's cheaper anyway :man:
Bought it late last year (for a bargainous 60 quid!) and been in the garage ever since. Never had a gas bbq before.
TIA!
YOG
8 Apr 161#27
It wasn't meant as a criticism, it was to show that there is no great rush to buy, as the offer price is unlikely to disappear.
n217970
8 Apr 16#25
Its the lack of response that has p****d me off as opposed to the problem with the cylinder. It was interesting that when I have ordered from them in the past I get invited to place feedback on the FEEFO thing but on this order that invitation has not been forthcoming.
HowAboutNo
8 Apr 161#24
Sort of missing out on the fact that this deal is for butane, so it was a fairly valid question if the bottle doesn't match what they already have. . . .
ho5dow
8 Apr 16#23
have they change their policy in the last few days?
i try to order and rang on tuesday and they told me they wants 50 something pound, if you haven't got empty bottle.
they told me that the 19kg propane cylinder don't need deposit.
shalton
8 Apr 161#22
Thanks, i have verified with the company as well. Very good price.
shalton
8 Apr 16#21
You can still use for barbecues - just change the regulator (i have both)
With the propane you can use it in a mobile heater in your garage at freezing temperatures. The butane could be frozen and so would not work.
M1ke_Hunt
8 Apr 161#20
Got this last year, unbelivable deal, but for once this one isn't too good to be true > HEAT
andynicol
8 Apr 16#19
Yes normal selling price, but I always find on these threads, (I've posted it a couple of times myself) that there are plenty folks who are unaware of it, and furthermore are unsure that they can change there cylinder to a different brand.
n217970
8 Apr 16#17
Had a bottle from them about 2 months ago which just didn't work - flame lit, then pulsed, then went out no matter what I tried it on (2 x gas fires, bbq etc). Gasdeal were no help at all, customer service was not bad just completely none existent.
In the end I got bored waiting for an answer and started messing with the cylinder (DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS). The cylinder was hideously over pressured. After letting a fair bit of gas out it started working normally.
They still have not got back to me with an answer.
Its a good price but servicewise I guess you get what you pay for.
andynicol to n217970
8 Apr 16#18
To be fair that could happen with any supplier, to compare it with Calor your problem would involve a visit to your local stockist for them to replace.
jai47
8 Apr 161#6
I have a gas bbq that I purchased from B&Q last year.
I haven't had to change the gas yet... does it matter what gas I use? (i.e. Propane, Butane or PatioGas).
I have binned the packaging so can't remember what we have at the moment.
andynicol to jai47
8 Apr 162#7
You need to check which regulator you have currently.
Propane takes a different regulator than Butane.
These cylinders require a standard 21mm clip-on regulator, usually blue in colour and is used by all suppliers Calor Gas etc
Dyslexic_Dog to jai47
8 Apr 165#8
Just get the same type of bottle and the contents will be the same, it's not rocket science...although it may be if anything goes wrong! :-)
paulandpam1 to jai47
8 Apr 161#16
You have 2 options.
1: Your BBQ hose will have a regulator on that will only fit one type of bottle and 9 times out of 10 it will be a patio gas regulator that only fits the more expensive bottles so buy an expensive patio gas bottle refill.
2: Change the regulator with a 21mm butane one and buy these much cheaper refills.
BTW patio gas is just propane in a green bottle and a quick fit regulator where as a normal a propane bottle uses a left handed threaded screw in regulator that requires a spanner to fit.
Butane or Propane will work perfectly well in your bbq but Propane will also work in freezing temperatures.
YOG
8 Apr 161#15
Just to clarify.
£23.99 is their normal selling price, although it has been as low as £21.99 http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/flogas-butane-gas-13kg-cylinder-21-99-including-delivery-no-deposit-gasdeal-2375503
You order as many as you require, without any deposit. When re-ordering, in the comments box, just put down how many empty cylinders (if any) they can collect.
I have found this gas much cheaper than "Calor" cylinders, the only downside being sometimes I have waited 5+ days for delivery.
shalton
8 Apr 161#10
I have looked on the website and you can get 18kg of propane for the same price
andynicol to shalton
8 Apr 161#13
They previously wanted a propane empty returned, may have changed there policy of course though..
Will involve changing the regulator if changing from butane to propane.
LordScrumptious to shalton
8 Apr 16#14
Hello Shalton
I think that is specifically for Fork Lift Trucks looking at the description, unless you have a Fork Lift Truck BBQ then you should be ok. :stuck_out_tongue:
"This very popular 18Kg propane gas cylinder is specifically made for use with a fork lift truck. At ONLY £23.98 each, it represents a fantastic saving off the standard retail price."
Regards
LordScrumptious
spicerboy
8 Apr 161#12
Thanks now ordered have some heat :smiley:
shalton
8 Apr 161#9
I have always had to swap an empty bottle for a new bottle and then to pay for the gas within.
Is this definitely an all in price?
andynicol to shalton
8 Apr 161#11
Yes, full cylinder, no empty required, no deposit required, fully delivered price.
coxy76
8 Apr 161#4
Are you sure they wont want a return?
andynicol to coxy76
8 Apr 161#5
100%.
spicerboy
8 Apr 161#2
Is that the same as a normal calor gas regulator 21mm
andynicol to spicerboy
8 Apr 161#3
It certainly is.
andynicol
8 Apr 161#1
Requires a 21mm clip-on regulator, seen here (not supplied with cylinder) £8.99, normally supplied with BBQ though.
Opening post
NO Deposit required
NO empty required
Free delivery
** Edited 08/04/16 @ 1800 to add ;
Item temporarily unavailable via website.
Telephone orders ; 0845 270 7134.
Alternatively, same item, same price available from there eBay
shop
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13Kg-Butane-Re-Fill-Gas-Cylinder-/262369120315?hash=item3d166b103b
## see post #98, 13kg butane available for £18.85 delivered ##
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Latest comments (102)
I wonder why the deal was deleted?
Have a look at my previous posts people!
How much are they for a full butane cylinder delivered ?
Deal thread here
3 days lead time, order via telephone on 01507 605 230
Nice find.
'Propane bottles are NOT allowed to be stored indoors because they have a higher risk of leakage because they contain a greater gas pressure in the bottle than Butane bottles.
Butane has a lower bottle pressure so is considered safer to be stored and used indoors in room heaters etc because of the lower risk of gas escaping.
Is my comment #43 really that complicated to understand??
Thats applies to most companies, both big and small
As for calor, they are quite happy to turn a blind eye when convenient and they can pass the buck if something goes wrong.
Yes caravan propane cylinders are stored in a little cupboard (outside the living area of the vehicle and always with a sump hole for any leakage to drain into open air and must NOT be used inside the caravan) and propane blow heaters are only supposed to be used temporarily in well ventilated commercial premises. CALORS OWN SAFETY PDF STATES 'Propane cylinders (red) may be used indoors in commercial and industrial premises only on a temporary basis, i.e. blowtorch, blown air heater, but the cylinders must always be stored outdoors'. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.calor.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/PDF/cylinder-storage-information.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiigdKbzoPMAhXJqxoKHc1lDwgQFghBMAI&usg=AFQjCNGJyIduQmx7vA2b5EF_DxN___k9hw&sig2=UpSuOmx2A72dt4fIKwnimg
There's a calor supplier in Luton who stores all his bottle's inside his shop, now that is dangerous, over 200 various bottles but it's Luton so doesn't matter.
As with all lpg you must have adequate ventilation when using gas
My estimate of 6/7 years was a conservative estimate of course.
Propane cylinders would I imagine last longer before corroding as propane freezes at a lower temperature than butane, with butane freezing at -10 I think it would affect cylinders quicker...?
I'm certainly no expert though and just making educated guesses and may be way off the mark.... :wink:
The 47kg bottles are left outside for years and years.
The difference between a calor 15kg butane bottle and a 13kg propane bottle (apart from the contents) is a coat of paint. The bottles are made to withstand outside temps.
Gas itself won't go 'off', but the danger would be the cylinder rusting/corroding and the gas escaping, kept in a watertight shed/garage, I'd say these would still be good after 6/7 years..?
Care would have to be taken in extreme winter though, Butane doesn't like the cold.
Can this heater cope with the extra pressure?
Can this heater cope with the extra heat?
I'd be wary that using propane in a butane designed heater would produce carbon monoxide in a larger qty than in normal use.
Best you contact the manufacturer of the heater.
Also couldn't see any of your previous deals for cylinders?
They only deliver in Lancashire and Cumbria though.
You won't see any prices on the website but if you gave them a ring on 0808 141 0515 .
They only charge £45.00 for there 47kg propane bottles which I found cheaper than any where else
but as another contributor to this thread has mentioned, mobile homes use propane
If so, then no, propane should not be used indoors.
Just ordered this online, confirmed by text and email
The forklift bootle has a 'L' shaped pipe inside and enables the forklift to work off the liquid lpg not the gas like everything else.
This is a good deal.
Therefore Butane is safer for indoor use but Propane is a much better gas for outside use because of its lower freezing temperature.
Butane is normally used for BBQ's and indoor heaters.
Propane is normally used in outdoor (patio) heaters, and is also commonly used in ventilated garages/workshops in fan heaters.
Of course, as you say changing the regulator means you can use either, BUT propane should only be used in ventilated areas so is NOT recommended for domestic indoor heaters.
Just need to wait for them to light some candles and have my camera ready for the action. :sunglasses:
Would it be easy enough to make an adapter so I can fill up party balloons?
A cheap adaptor won't sense the pressure, so you need to have it completely empty.
It is considered very naughty and quite possibly illegal, because if you overfill, you've got the chance of it exploding with temperature changes.
I've looked at the more expensive systems you can't overfill, but for the couple of cans a year I use, it would take far too long to recover the investment and would be a bit more hassle on that too.
Excellent company aswell, i phoned up for advice on regulator and they were really helpful and delivery was very quick.
A true bargain
Rip off merchants.
The price hasn't 'expired' just temporarily unavailable..(see posts 15 & 19)
They also have an eBay page seen here, same price, same item.
Alternatively you could call them ; 0845 270 7134.
As is normal after the deal is posted on here, they are no doubt inundated with orders.
See post #1 with pic of the 21mm clip-on butane regulator, these aren't unique to this deal, they are industry standard and the vast majority of butane cylinders use this same regulator.
GasDeal do them for £8.99, or are also available at your local caravan park/showroom, also seen on Amazon/eBay and such like, Amazon example
These are simple to change, only required a screwdriver and soapy water in a spray bottle.
Remove old one (as its new you may find its not even connected to the hose as yet?)
Fit new one with worm drive / jubilee clip.
Spray on soapy water over the clip and hose end, open valve gently until fully open, if you see bubbles forming then close valve and tighten the clip.
Done!
http://www.tesco.com/direct/masterchef-2-burner-gas-bbq-with-side-burner-red/691-1160.prd?skuId=691-1160&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-tesco-_-691-1160&gclid=Cj0KEQjwrZ24BRC098fr-OqnuMkBEiQAKQ9lgAjXAg7ietdq7tiLlo49ORhtxNDzWLu99-tY4E68YTIaAjVw8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds
Bought it late last year (for a bargainous 60 quid!) and been in the garage ever since. Never had a gas bbq before.
TIA!
i try to order and rang on tuesday and they told me they wants 50 something pound, if you haven't got empty bottle.
they told me that the 19kg propane cylinder don't need deposit.
With the propane you can use it in a mobile heater in your garage at freezing temperatures. The butane could be frozen and so would not work.
In the end I got bored waiting for an answer and started messing with the cylinder (DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS). The cylinder was hideously over pressured. After letting a fair bit of gas out it started working normally.
They still have not got back to me with an answer.
Its a good price but servicewise I guess you get what you pay for.
I haven't had to change the gas yet... does it matter what gas I use? (i.e. Propane, Butane or PatioGas).
I have binned the packaging so can't remember what we have at the moment.
Propane takes a different regulator than Butane.
These cylinders require a standard 21mm clip-on regulator, usually blue in colour and is used by all suppliers Calor Gas etc
1: Your BBQ hose will have a regulator on that will only fit one type of bottle and 9 times out of 10 it will be a patio gas regulator that only fits the more expensive bottles so buy an expensive patio gas bottle refill.
2: Change the regulator with a 21mm butane one and buy these much cheaper refills.
BTW patio gas is just propane in a green bottle and a quick fit regulator where as a normal a propane bottle uses a left handed threaded screw in regulator that requires a spanner to fit.
Butane or Propane will work perfectly well in your bbq but Propane will also work in freezing temperatures.
£23.99 is their normal selling price, although it has been as low as £21.99
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/flogas-butane-gas-13kg-cylinder-21-99-including-delivery-no-deposit-gasdeal-2375503
You order as many as you require, without any deposit. When re-ordering, in the comments box, just put down how many empty cylinders (if any) they can collect.
I have found this gas much cheaper than "Calor" cylinders, the only downside being sometimes I have waited 5+ days for delivery.
Will involve changing the regulator if changing from butane to propane.
I think that is specifically for Fork Lift Trucks looking at the description, unless you have a Fork Lift Truck BBQ then you should be ok. :stuck_out_tongue:
"This very popular 18Kg propane gas cylinder is specifically made for use with a fork lift truck. At ONLY £23.98 each, it represents a fantastic saving off the standard retail price."
Regards
LordScrumptious
Is this definitely an all in price?