Seems a good price for this for anybody needing a new Gpu ,only showing as 2 in stock,so be quick
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BetaRomeo
13 Mar 168#6
At £185 (plus a fiver delivery), you're ~£30 off a 390 or 970 - a tiny bit more money for massively increased performance.
But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we're about to enjoy all the lovely new hardware in a couple of months. Don't buy anything unless you're overwhelmingly desperate!
NeoTrix
13 Mar 164#7
Delivery is free, you just need to select it at checkout
MadeInBeats to Lucifer_UK
14 Mar 164#66
You must really impress the ladies with your large resolutions.
NeoTrix
13 Mar 163#9
That's not why i mentioned it to be honest. Just wanted to make sure folk knew it was free delivery :smiley:
Certainly better than someone randomly saying "end of year" on a whim, no?
borosidf
14 Mar 16#75
don't forget TC, it is 3% for Novatech
adam0812
14 Mar 16#74
What monitor are you using?
Lucifer_UK
14 Mar 16#73
15fps is the dream I get 5fps if i am lucky.... its like looking at still... but I got it
Lucifer_UK
14 Mar 161#72
My resolutions bring all the girls to my yard....
adam0812
14 Mar 16#71
Nothing been said officially, just speculation. Albeit seemingly credible speculation.
adam0812
14 Mar 16#70
Probably plays at 4k 15fps thinking he's a boss.
Stu C
14 Mar 16#68
To those saying new cards are just around the corner, I don't think are going to see the next chipsets from AMD or nVidia until the end of the year.
Nate1492 to Stu C
14 Mar 16#69
Nvidia have announced their first Pascal GPU out in May and AMD have stated June or July.
BetaRomeo
14 Mar 16#67
We've had several 390s and 970s from £220-230. Of course, it's disingenuous to suggest that they will always be those prices - if not, then you haven't understood the point of HUKD. :wink:
Still, another kind chap linked to one on page two of these comments:
Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 16#17
people still game at 1080?? sheesh
rev6 to Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 16#18
Not everyone can afford high end GPU's. Nothing wrong with 1920x1080 as long as it's not 30FPS :smile:
And you could always downsample to get better image quality.
Astec123 to Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 16#44
Yep we do. It's called having a HTPC with the power to game on. I've got an MSI version of the 380 and it's made me plenty happy with it's performance levels and that I can sit on the sofa with my G15 and gaming mouse on a tray and play Fallout.
People say that every single time new models are 'around the corner', they arrive, the usual step up in performance appears and then these comments quickly re-appear saying to 'wait for the next generation models they will blow this gen out of the water'. There's nothing wrong with this card for the average gamer, it wont suit hardcore 120fps 4k, ultra super high detail fanboys, but for the average punter wanting to get a decent framerate on modern games it is more than good enough.
The idea of blanket advising people to not upgrading now is a moot point as it really is something to assess based on what they have now and what they can get for their budget.
I'll also add that the prices when the new stuff appears will also bump up for the 'early adopters' as usual.
jsty3105 to Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 163#63
So?
MadeInBeats to Lucifer_UK
14 Mar 164#66
You must really impress the ladies with your large resolutions.
BetaRomeo
13 Mar 168#6
At £185 (plus a fiver delivery), you're ~£30 off a 390 or 970 - a tiny bit more money for massively increased performance.
But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we're about to enjoy all the lovely new hardware in a couple of months. Don't buy anything unless you're overwhelmingly desperate!
paneds to BetaRomeo
13 Mar 16#11
what do u mean by lovely new hardware ?? im still quite a newbie when it comes to this
will65mcmanus to BetaRomeo
13 Mar 16#23
Care to show us proof that yopu can get the 390 for 220 because i looked all over yesterday and the cheapest i seen a 390 was 260 so i ended up getting a msi 390x
Awaken to BetaRomeo
14 Mar 16#65
Whilst I would agree with that, show me where it's £30 - seems more like £50-55. If you're including the profits auctioning off a game code you might receive too, not everyone is gonna do that, and it doesn't change the outlay they have to make to buy one.
zxh848
14 Mar 16#64
Great price, but for me I would prefer adding few quids to get a 390-level card
OGSSAA (Ordered Grid SuperSampling AntiAliasing), involves rendering an image above the resolution of the desired display and then using the GPU to rescale the resolution to the max resolution of the desired display.
Other Anti Aliasing methods (AA) are explained in this reddit sub >
AMD Zen cores on route.
(waits for rev6 to point out it's not related even though the products will come from the same company as the item listed on this deals page).
Intel need AMD to keep going because of the X86 licence, if AMD falls then Samsung for example (God forfend!) could come in and have a go at Intel. So that's another on my list of things that fck over the consumer:
1. DX12 owned by Microsoft, platform religion is Windows 10 only on desktops and Xbox One on console
Answer to the above, get PS4 using Vulkan API, AMD using Vulkan API and everyone who can using it.
2. Nvidia Gameworks
Answer: Don't buy Nvidia? Hmm ah well
3. X86 Licence
Answer: No answer unless AMD dies. Intel R&D is truly massive, needs some big boots to fill but AMD isn't dead so it's moot.
rev6
13 Mar 16#58
Nope.
fishmaster
13 Mar 16#57
I already hate those benchmarks for using 32GB DDR4, why, why why?
correctMeifyourewrong
13 Mar 16#47
Good price but Amazon had the MSI 390 (8gb) for me (prime) £168 and I bit the bullet (is now back at £270ish). Heck of a performance hike from the older gen of cards. Good deal and voted hot.
dan121 to correctMeifyourewrong
13 Mar 16#56
wow that's an amazing price,would of gone for that too!!
dan121
13 Mar 16#55
Don't forget quidco,tracking at £3.08;every penny helps
Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#53
I was clarifying, that's all. No need to get on your high horse. But there are many differences between a 280x and a 380x.
vulcanproject
13 Mar 161#52
It's barely a revision compared to 14nm FinFet. It's barely a refresh. 28nm Tonga is 18 months old and the brethren that is the 280X which offers performance within 5 percent of this is well over 2 years old. 280X of course being the same sort of performance as 7970ghz.
The question should be if you haven't bought something of this class and around this sub £230 pricepoint the past 2 years which is where they have hovered that entire time- why the heck would you buy this now unless you had some obvious pressing need?
Well you wouldn't, and shouldn't.
Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#51
But it's not the same revision as a 280x
I bet you had to look that up.
LOL
rev6
13 Mar 161#50
Still similar performance :smile:
Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#49
Its a different GCN revision.
vulcanproject
13 Mar 16#48
It's essentially a 280X in terms of performance. The memory bus is cut down by comparison and the clocks pumped with a few other revisions, but the base architecture (GCN) is the same 28nm based generation that began with Southern Islands and then the 28x boards. The overarching point of the post was that the new generation is a major revision on a new process with enormous performance per watt gains, whereas this shares most of those roots with the 28x. Particularly the 285 (tonga) if you want to be totally precise. Which is still an 18 month old board....
vulcanproject
13 Mar 161#46
People also always say what you say. The point being if you want something that has a chance of lasting more than 6 months before it's already fairly dated, then buy near the start of a major generational shift, not the end of one!
This I made quite clear. This isn't a case of 'wait, wait, wait', it's a case of why buy something at the end of it's life rather than something near the start, unless of course you have killer discounts on it.
This is good advice, ESPECIALLY if you do not already have a card of this sort of performance, meaning you don't usually buy the newest thing and may also be unaware of the major step change we are verging on.
You might have a point against people saying wait if it was 6 months ago, or a year ago, but on the brink of a new generation which could launch as early as 2 months from now it's only sound advice to make people aware........
rev6
13 Mar 161#45
You're right, there's always something new around the corner... But not every year there's a GPU dieshrink, and not every year there's a new API that promises to change PC gaming (not something like DX11 to DX11.1). They would hold me back from upgrading today.
Or waiting just for the price drops when they're released.
ettienem1001
13 Mar 16#43
2 amazon account in the household
vulcanproject
13 Mar 16#38
Don't buy new cards unless desperate for one NOW. Only because this is essentially revised 280X performance. A card from over 2 years ago, while we're at most 6 months away from a massive step change to 14/16nm FinFet models. They will have massively superior performance and thermals, it'll probably be the biggest leap in 4 years. The high end stuff could be here as early as May, with the range filled out more by the end of summer.
Ferrari100 to vulcanproject
13 Mar 16#42
It is not a revised 280x
It has a fully fledged tonga core that only Apple and Alien ware had access to for twelve months
rev6
13 Mar 161#41
The top 3 cards have 2 GPU's so it's expected.
notos
13 Mar 16#40
How did you manage to buy two lots of a lightning deal?
XP200
13 Mar 16#39
Wow, look at the power draw of those top three cards, that is almost enough wattage to run another good mid range gaming PC. :confused:
Mr Electric must live these cards. lol
gchild
13 Mar 16#37
Anyone recommend me a gaming pc around £500 mark?
TheMappers
13 Mar 16#36
brilliant!
rev6
13 Mar 16#35
And how was I supposed to know what "explain" meant? :smiley:
I've had CFX before... Not again.
Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 161#34
ive had this card since day 1.... and i paid the premium... i know what I bought...
i meant..
explain the ''*shivers''
noone can shivver with my card in the room......
as for gfx - it doesnt struggle anywhere....with any game... blops 3... gta 5.... all fantastic
using it for rendering on my new youtube channel... fantastic....
so this is what i say to people who dont have one.... you dont know what ur talking about and are only relaying other peoples views, who also dont know what they are talking about.
But i am entitled to my opinion.... but the proofs in the pudding... I have the card... Its brilliant.
rev6
13 Mar 16#33
The 7990 is a card with 2 GPU's that relies on CFX to function properly, otherwise you just have a 7970, which isn't a bad GPU. It's bad when it doesn't scale right or isn't supported at all as you may as well just bought a 7970.
Each their own though, if it works for you.
Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 16#32
explain
rev6
13 Mar 16#31
A CFX based card. *shivers
Lucifer_UK
13 Mar 16#30
Ive only got a 7990.... hardly high end nowadays and can be picked up cheap on ebaby, hell pick up two and go quad... still rock almost ultra on every game I play with 16x 2400mhz ram... but like I say it aint high end.
ettienem1001
13 Mar 16#29
not needed, but got i 32gb ddr4 when amazon had 16gb (2x 8gb) kits on lightning deal
Elevation
13 Mar 16#28
Well those are reasonable tests - I mean I'm sure we've all got 32GB of DDR4 RAM inside our machines....right?
phoetus
13 Mar 16#27
Sure, on some more demanding FPS games it draws a decent amount but on everyday tasks, it's pretty efficient.
rev6
13 Mar 16#26
The power consumption doesn't bother me personally.
Don't always believe those charts. On most day-to-day applications, including games, my 780TI rarely draws more than 150W. You really have to abnormally stress it out to reach its peak rated TDP. Current AMD cards on the other hand are less efficient at lower work loads and run hotter on day-to-day applications. 780s and 780TIs are great value at the moment, if you are willing to forgo the warranty issue.
phoetus
13 Mar 16#20
Look around for a cheap used GTX 780 TI for around this price. More performance and less power draw than these AMD offerings. Should be plenty good until the new Pascal and Polaris cards come out.
Ferrari100 to phoetus
13 Mar 16#21
with no warranty? You want a warranty with a GPU.
rev6 to phoetus
13 Mar 16#22
The 780 Ti is more powerful, but with quite a lot more power draw.
Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#19
Just a heads up.
I posted the awesome Gigabyte 380x from Novatech a short while ago and it is now £210. I would something similar to happen with this version.
kevtheidiot
13 Mar 16#16
Looking at that thread ,it was a misprice
hitman007
13 Mar 161#15
Where have you seen the pricing of the new cards listed?
LittleChimp
13 Mar 162#14
Might be worth looking at a 290 you can get them for around 150 now 2nd hand.
The asus strix R9 390 version of this card goes for another £100;would'nt be interested in XFX card
Aretak to kevtheidiot
13 Mar 162#12
The Strix 390 isn't even very good. It runs hotter than most other 390s, reaching the high 80s with the standard fan profile. Asus' customer service is truly awful as well. I'd take XFX's card over it any day.
Both AMD and Nvidia will be releasing new cards in the next few months. They likely won't be in the same price bracket as this one though. Nvidia's will be priced at around £300 (GTX 1070) and £450 (GTX 1080). AMD might release a mid-range model, but what performance it'll offer and what price it'll be is pure guesswork for now.
NeoTrix
13 Mar 163#9
That's not why i mentioned it to be honest. Just wanted to make sure folk knew it was free delivery :smiley:
BetaRomeo
13 Mar 16#8
Ah, £35 more, then? No way - just get this one! :man:
NeoTrix
13 Mar 164#7
Delivery is free, you just need to select it at checkout
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But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we're about to enjoy all the lovely new hardware in a couple of months. Don't buy anything unless you're overwhelmingly desperate!
Delivery is free, you just need to select it at checkout
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http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/nvidia-pascal-graphics-cards-due-between-may-and-july-with-amd-polaris-gpus-expected-q3/037923
Certainly better than someone randomly saying "end of year" on a whim, no?
Still, another kind chap linked to one on page two of these comments:
And you could always downsample to get better image quality.
People say that every single time new models are 'around the corner', they arrive, the usual step up in performance appears and then these comments quickly re-appear saying to 'wait for the next generation models they will blow this gen out of the water'. There's nothing wrong with this card for the average gamer, it wont suit hardcore 120fps 4k, ultra super high detail fanboys, but for the average punter wanting to get a decent framerate on modern games it is more than good enough.
The idea of blanket advising people to not upgrading now is a moot point as it really is something to assess based on what they have now and what they can get for their budget.
I'll also add that the prices when the new stuff appears will also bump up for the 'early adopters' as usual.
But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we're about to enjoy all the lovely new hardware in a couple of months. Don't buy anything unless you're overwhelmingly desperate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylIGKrb6VvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEFP-7drLw
Other Anti Aliasing methods (AA) are explained in this reddit sub >
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1rb964/antialiasing_modes_explained/
(waits for rev6 to point out it's not related even though the products will come from the same company as the item listed on this deals page).
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-cpu-8-core-summit-ridge-launching-october/
http://wccftech.com/legendary-cpu-architect-jim-keller-left-amd-pursue-opportunities-x86-zen-track/
40% IPC increase.
Intel need AMD to keep going because of the X86 licence, if AMD falls then Samsung for example (God forfend!) could come in and have a go at Intel. So that's another on my list of things that fck over the consumer:
1. DX12 owned by Microsoft, platform religion is Windows 10 only on desktops and Xbox One on console
Answer to the above, get PS4 using Vulkan API, AMD using Vulkan API and everyone who can using it.
2. Nvidia Gameworks
Answer: Don't buy Nvidia? Hmm ah well
3. X86 Licence
Answer: No answer unless AMD dies. Intel R&D is truly massive, needs some big boots to fill but AMD isn't dead so it's moot.
The question should be if you haven't bought something of this class and around this sub £230 pricepoint the past 2 years which is where they have hovered that entire time- why the heck would you buy this now unless you had some obvious pressing need?
Well you wouldn't, and shouldn't.
I bet you had to look that up.
LOL
This I made quite clear. This isn't a case of 'wait, wait, wait', it's a case of why buy something at the end of it's life rather than something near the start, unless of course you have killer discounts on it.
This is good advice, ESPECIALLY if you do not already have a card of this sort of performance, meaning you don't usually buy the newest thing and may also be unaware of the major step change we are verging on.
You might have a point against people saying wait if it was 6 months ago, or a year ago, but on the brink of a new generation which could launch as early as 2 months from now it's only sound advice to make people aware........
Or waiting just for the price drops when they're released.
It has a fully fledged tonga core that only Apple and Alien ware had access to for twelve months
Mr Electric must live these cards. lol
I've had CFX before... Not again.
i meant..
explain the ''*shivers''
noone can shivver with my card in the room......
as for gfx - it doesnt struggle anywhere....with any game... blops 3... gta 5.... all fantastic
using it for rendering on my new youtube channel... fantastic....
so this is what i say to people who dont have one.... you dont know what ur talking about and are only relaying other peoples views, who also dont know what they are talking about.
But i am entitled to my opinion.... but the proofs in the pudding... I have the card... Its brilliant.
Each their own though, if it works for you.
I posted the awesome Gigabyte 380x from Novatech a short while ago and it is now £210. I would something similar to happen with this version.
Both AMD and Nvidia will be releasing new cards in the next few months. They likely won't be in the same price bracket as this one though. Nvidia's will be priced at around £300 (GTX 1070) and £450 (GTX 1080). AMD might release a mid-range model, but what performance it'll offer and what price it'll be is pure guesswork for now.
Delivery is free, you just need to select it at checkout
would I see a big difference?
Although another £35 will get you an R9 390 from Scan at the moment, which is a bigger step up (around the performance of the 290X on those graphs).