You're an absolute idiot and you're the type of person that shops eat up for breakfast. You're buying high priced HDMI cables that cost them a few quid to make and paying them for using different metals and marketing techniques. I've personally compared HDMI cables from £1 up to around £200 and there's literally not a single bit of difference.
Most people just want to stream or watch movies on their TV's regardless if it's 100% cinema blu-ray dolby atmos 3D lazer shark quality or just decent quality. People aren't being cheap, they're just not paying out £30+ for a silly HDMI cable which may give 1-2% better quality overall or wanting to buy a £99 dedicated card because it may give slightly better results.
The advice given above is correct, use a iGPU in a HTPC because you'll get great quality and a dedicated card is overkill for 1080p, obviously for 4K it will be different but I would guess anybody who is in to 4K would know exactly what hardware they would need and wouldn't need a lecture from a guy who spends his entire months dole on an HDMI cable.
Stop spouting your garbage in here. Good price. HEAT!
rev6 to tempt
15 Feb 166#2
Probably better just using the iGPU of a budget Intel CPU. Skylake supports H.265 hardware decoding, this doesn't. It's GCN 1.0, quite old.
New2Deals
15 Feb 165#6
gigolojoe
15 Feb 164#3
Basically a maxed out HD 7850 card, meets the min. requirement for games like Star Wars Battlefront, overkill for a HTPC :smile:
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tempt
15 Feb 162#1
Great card for a Kodi HTPC!
rev6 to tempt
15 Feb 166#2
Probably better just using the iGPU of a budget Intel CPU. Skylake supports H.265 hardware decoding, this doesn't. It's GCN 1.0, quite old.
polly69 to tempt
15 Feb 161#7
A 390x is a better card for running Kodi
Are you having a laugh, a Gaming GPU to run Kodi just about any iGPU will do a wicked jpb of that but you would rather have 2 fans blasting away while you watch movies and be paying the electric bill to run a card like this. You could buy low power PC like a Gigabyte Brix which will do a lovely job or get a android box both will be prefect and the new Android boxes are 4k with .H265 decoding for around £20 more you can get a Nvidiea Shield.
Theirs one born every minute
dhallam to tempt
16 Feb 16#39
It is that but I'm holding out for a gtx 950 as I would love 4K res at 60hz
gigolojoe
15 Feb 164#3
Basically a maxed out HD 7850 card, meets the min. requirement for games like Star Wars Battlefront, overkill for a HTPC :smile:
revolver31 to gigolojoe
15 Feb 16#8
Not if you want quality upscaling with madvr, this may not be a priority for gamers but if your a movie buff and care more about home cinema then gpu scaling helps get the best out of you media and gear.
This requires power esp scaling dvd to 1080p or 1080p to 4k there's no substitute for a dedicated gpu, believe me there's a huge difference in quality and detail, it can really look amazing.
Most people would not invest the money unless they've seen the results for themselves.
Yes sure Blu-ray players scale as do all tv's now as well as your receiver but nothing like a good gpu and madvr, there's no cpu/igpu that can produce this type of detail, maybe one day but by then the scaling algorithms will be more complex with better detail and will again require more grunt.
Now with 4k here it takes more power scaling 1080p to 4k than it does 480p to 1080p, good news is gpu's are getting better, cheaper and more efficient too.
I run through madvr out to my denon receiver which can scale then out to my plasma tv that can scale, I use audioquest hdmi leads with noise suppressors and all power runs trough two filtered & protected tacima main adaptors.
But then again most people are happy with the crappy streams so they don't have the quality to scale in the first place most people just put up with whatever cause they don't care or there just cheap, 5mbps video scaled & cleaned up through madvr looks better sure but not like 30mbps Blu-ray scaled up and with 4k we'll need all the bitrate we can get but tell that to the people that want to save shelf space, rofl.
I'm surprised how many people are unaware of this and will recommend using an igpu for a htpc when so much quality is available , still most of these are gamers and don't know or care for movies but you should give it a go madvr has a learning curve but it's worth it, and it will get the most from your tv.
SaltyCDogg
15 Feb 16#4
Anyone suggest a better card for this price? I was looking at a GTX 750 Ti, but this one is clearly faster.
rev6 to SaltyCDogg
15 Feb 16#5
What PC do you currently have and what would you be using the GPU for?
New2Deals
15 Feb 165#6
SaltyCDogg
15 Feb 164#9
It's black and silver, it's either an intel or an AMD I think?? games, candy crush etc my mate dave reckons you need a good card to get really high scores.
rev6
16 Feb 162#10
Alright then :smiley: Good luck.
Wadso
16 Feb 16#11
Can anyone please give me some advice on what parts I need to build a home office mini itx system, it's needs to be really quick start up. Need for building basic websites, surfing Internet.. Very light gaming.. If anyone could suggest what motherboard, CPU, case, ram would be suitable for a budget of around £600.. I've just bought the 23" monitor that was on here earlier. Thanks
People will probably recommend i3 processor + amd card (370 etc) but I'd be wary of doing that combination. From various game benchmark tests by Eurogamer's Digital Foundry, they've found that AMD cards perform poorer on i3 vs i5, whereas Nvidia cards have minimal change. It's a difference in the cards drivers (software). And before anyone tries to accuse me of Nvidia bias, I have an i5 4670K + AMD R9 280 (built July '14).
Also going with an i5 vs i3 could allow you to upgrade to a more powerful graphics card later, without having to worry about CPU holding it back.
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Most people just want to stream or watch movies on their TV's regardless if it's 100% cinema blu-ray dolby atmos 3D lazer shark quality or just decent quality. People aren't being cheap, they're just not paying out £30+ for a silly HDMI cable which may give 1-2% better quality overall or wanting to buy a £99 dedicated card because it may give slightly better results.
The advice given above is correct, use a iGPU in a HTPC because you'll get great quality and a dedicated card is overkill for 1080p, obviously for 4K it will be different but I would guess anybody who is in to 4K would know exactly what hardware they would need and wouldn't need a lecture from a guy who spends his entire months dole on an HDMI cable.
Stop spouting your garbage in here. Good price. HEAT!
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Are you having a laugh, a Gaming GPU to run Kodi just about any iGPU will do a wicked jpb of that but you would rather have 2 fans blasting away while you watch movies and be paying the electric bill to run a card like this. You could buy low power PC like a Gigabyte Brix which will do a lovely job or get a android box both will be prefect and the new Android boxes are 4k with .H265 decoding for around £20 more you can get a Nvidiea Shield.
Theirs one born every minute
This requires power esp scaling dvd to 1080p or 1080p to 4k there's no substitute for a dedicated gpu, believe me there's a huge difference in quality and detail, it can really look amazing.
Most people would not invest the money unless they've seen the results for themselves.
Yes sure Blu-ray players scale as do all tv's now as well as your receiver but nothing like a good gpu and madvr, there's no cpu/igpu that can produce this type of detail, maybe one day but by then the scaling algorithms will be more complex with better detail and will again require more grunt.
Now with 4k here it takes more power scaling 1080p to 4k than it does 480p to 1080p, good news is gpu's are getting better, cheaper and more efficient too.
I run through madvr out to my denon receiver which can scale then out to my plasma tv that can scale, I use audioquest hdmi leads with noise suppressors and all power runs trough two filtered & protected tacima main adaptors.
But then again most people are happy with the crappy streams so they don't have the quality to scale in the first place most people just put up with whatever cause they don't care or there just cheap, 5mbps video scaled & cleaned up through madvr looks better sure but not like 30mbps Blu-ray scaled up and with 4k we'll need all the bitrate we can get but tell that to the people that want to save shelf space, rofl.
I'm surprised how many people are unaware of this and will recommend using an igpu for a htpc when so much quality is available , still most of these are gamers and don't know or care for movies but you should give it a go madvr has a learning curve but it's worth it, and it will get the most from your tv.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hD3B8d or
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/NdCK6h (better graphics card)
People will probably recommend i3 processor + amd card (370 etc) but I'd be wary of doing that combination. From various game benchmark tests by Eurogamer's Digital Foundry, they've found that AMD cards perform poorer on i3 vs i5, whereas Nvidia cards have minimal change. It's a difference in the cards drivers (software). And before anyone tries to accuse me of Nvidia bias, I have an i5 4670K + AMD R9 280 (built July '14).
Also going with an i5 vs i3 could allow you to upgrade to a more powerful graphics card later, without having to worry about CPU holding it back.
For more advice though, have a look on the pcpartpicker forums, and/or reddit build a pc.