Also announced by Asda at their fuel stations effective Monday about 3 hours earlier https://twitter.com/asda
- EveshamLad
Top comments
rvp11afc
3 Jan 1626#9
i filled up yesterday at 105.7 from tesco, think ill have to take it back and exchange.lol
TKDBlackbelt
3 Jan 1616#31
and in English ?
jamgin
3 Jan 166#19
Cold.
Diesel fumes are poisoning everybody.
Astec123 to Taz1529
4 Jan 166#105
I see you read the propaganda papers. Actually, you should be campaigning for the price increase on fuel in general. Petrol and Diesel are as bad as each other, neither being better than the other and it depends what benchmark you use to work out which is most dangerous. Just to give a snippet;
Carbon monoxide - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of this
Hydrocarbons - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of these
Nitrogen Oxides - Both fuel types are about as bad as each other here
Particulate matter - Diesels rule the roost for this (and it's particularly what the headlines are about)
Carbon dioxide - Petrol is slightly worse for this
* amusingly depending on who's report you read on the subject gives varying results and that's partly due to lobbying, individual agendas and so forth. However, all the reports I've ever seen certainly don't make diesel or petrol the king of the fuels, this is just an extract from one such report into the subject. I'm sure you can easily find a report that says diesel or petrol is the devils fuel and to use the other one.
As you can see neither is a slam dunk in terms of winning an "I'm better than you" race. Carbon monoxide is a greenhouse gas and highly poisonous, hydrocarbon are a cause of smog and linked to various illnesses, Nitrogen oxides are a key contributing factor to smog and acid rain, particulate matter causes smog and linked to various illnesses as well, carbon dioxide as we all know is a greenhouse gas. I'd safely say that neither option is ideal, but to blindly take what you read in the Daily Fail et al. as solid fact is a very bad line to take.
i filled up yesterday at 105.7 from tesco, think ill have to take it back and exchange.lol
sofiasar to rvp11afc
3 Jan 16#13
Every little helps !
landros1 to rvp11afc
3 Jan 161#58
I did the same.
AbandonedTrolley to rvp11afc
4 Jan 16#118
Same annoyingly, filled up last night so that I didn't need to before work this morning.
ricey
3 Jan 16#10
Stick with Morrisons, they made the price cut first. Tesco and Asda are just trying to jump on the bandwagon.
julieallen to ricey
3 Jan 16#16
Link please?
oddballjamie to ricey
3 Jan 16#30
Asda are normally the first to start the drop. I've gone off Morrisons since they tried to add hoops to fuel offers.
thegamingkinginfo to ricey
3 Jan 16#53
Yeah.. cause i'm really going to travel an extra 10 miles if I want fuel for the same price if I can get it within 5 miles, clever thinking. You really haven't grasped the concept of HUKD where we try and save money
Defiant306 to ricey
3 Jan 162#73
/facepalm /sigh
I will STICK with the closest company/station of the lot like any sane person looking to make their tank of fuel go the longest at the best price they can get.
Adrian24 to ricey
5 Jan 16#165
Trouble with Morrisons is that they water it down, literally, my fuel trap warning comes on when I fill up there and my engine cuts out because water is detected in my fuel system, cost me £20 last time.
Pluun to ricey
5 Jan 16#167
Funny how I filled up at Co-op LAST WEEK @.99.7p per liter when Morrisons were still selling at £1.03 then. :confused:
EveshamLad
3 Jan 161#11
Already announced by asda at their sites hours ago!
So Asda and Tesco made the decision but rest will follow a day or 2 after, to make extra profits . Happened last month. Mines still over half since then because of School hols.
Gollywood to sofiasar
3 Jan 16#99
When do you go back to school?
kavajaved
3 Jan 16#14
scorching if true!
HamanBasher
3 Jan 162#15
Shame I'm about to fill a full tank at motorway prices....
SymeonR
3 Jan 16#17
EveshamLad
3 Jan 16#18
Welcome to HUKD!
jamgin
3 Jan 166#19
Cold.
Diesel fumes are poisoning everybody.
brainbug100 to jamgin
3 Jan 16#29
Nar mine has sine fancy thing that keeps the baddies inside, plus I drive a seat so no idea what carp is coming out the back end :smiley:
colliwag to jamgin
3 Jan 16#41
:man:
thegamingkinginfo to jamgin
3 Jan 16#51
Basically.... Don't use any electronics because you're burning fossil fuels which releases CO2 and causes Global warming which results in Ice caps melting which leads to us being flooded...
Phila4 to jamgin
3 Jan 162#78
No, that'll be me burning 100 car tyres a day to keep my chickens warm.
ssc1 to jamgin
4 Jan 16#120
surprisingly cleaner these days with he curse of the DPF.
anthony69
3 Jan 162#20
Hot about time us Diesel ppl had a decent drop
IWOOTN to anthony69
3 Jan 161#34
Pity it's not decent diesel
foxymeister
3 Jan 161#21
Copied Asda again!!!!!!!!
dart16 to foxymeister
3 Jan 163#23
are you going to cry
t rex
3 Jan 16#22
nice need to fill up tomorrow only 48 miles left in tank
Fireball XL-5 to t rex
3 Jan 163#84
Fascinating. Keep us informed :smiley:
lordjordysmith
3 Jan 16#24
Hoping Sainsburys will follow suit quickly, got a 7p of per litre voucher to use
IWOOTN to lordjordysmith
3 Jan 161#32
Sainsburys diesel wrecked our fuel pumps a few yrs back
biggary666
3 Jan 16#25
**** filled up at Tesco yesterday!
mariefindlay
3 Jan 16#26
Shame I just put £40 of diesel in my car earlier!
Sephiroth
3 Jan 161#27
I've been wanting to fill up for under £1 ever since I got my car. Now that it's finally possible I'm sat with about 4 weeks worth of fuel in my tank. Hopefully the price will remain for the foreseeable future.
Chocdog
3 Jan 16#28
I hope it stays this low for a while, past experience shows it will be a short term promotion. Anyway fill your boots (or tanks) while you can!
Gaz_Oafc to Chocdog
3 Jan 16#98
Been paying this for weeks at Costco, hopefully they'll drop it by another 1p-2p now.
TKDBlackbelt
3 Jan 1616#31
and in English ?
IWOOTN
3 Jan 161#33
Supermarket diesel is among the worst.
oddballjamie to IWOOTN
3 Jan 162#39
Where you use it or not, a price drop from the supermarkets causes the big boys to adjust their prices too.
eset12345 to IWOOTN
3 Jan 16#46
trololololol it all comes from the same few refinaries in this country and all from the same oil wells etc etc
thegamingkinginfo to IWOOTN
3 Jan 16#52
Well... i've never had a problem with Tesco Diesel..
Andrew1971
3 Jan 16#35
How long will it stay that low? 2 weeks time it will be back at 1.10p litre !
randomnut
3 Jan 16#36
Hoping my local BP will beat this. They've constantly been 1p cheaper than the tesco across the road for some time now. Still, never thought I'd see the £1 litre again, happy days.
Disco Dave
3 Jan 161#37
Was already this price at Morrison Killingworth
Mr cool
3 Jan 163#38
As been said supermarket diesel is not the best,but this drop will make the BPs etc bring their prices down as well! So good news.
katya1971
3 Jan 16#40
Nice one just about ready to do a refill from the last 103 deal at asda before xmas
hockeyguy
3 Jan 16#42
On BBC app and in the times!
heatonbooth
3 Jan 16#43
It is true I got an email from Tesco today
zworld
3 Jan 161#44
Unleaded petrol was 99.9 last weekend
julieallen to zworld
3 Jan 161#45
A bar of chocolate was 30p last weekend, not sure what point you're trying to make?
Now Tesco need to do it for Super unleaded. My FiST loves it.
Biggunspaul to BluesFanUK
3 Jan 162#57
Fist ?
Would be nice just to be able to get hold of super unleaded at my local tesco.my car has to run on a min of 97 Ron,yet I struggle to get it as too many muppets fill up with it thinking it will turn their car into some beast when their car only requires normal unleaded.
sleeponit to BluesFanUK
3 Jan 16#71
**** alert. You are a completely clueless **** with too much cash in your pocket. Do some real research about how fuel is refined before talking pish.
thomaslilley716
3 Jan 165#50
Stop copying the same crap everyone else wrights down on here. It comes from the same refineries but they have different grades ffs. I notice the difference straight away when I top up with shell v power and so does everyone else who know's anything about cars. If you want to put cheap supermarket diesel in your car then go for it, each to their own...
zshamas
3 Jan 161#54
All following suit like sheep, but helpful sheep. Baaa baaa. Heat added OP.
Graham35
3 Jan 161#55
Approx 70p ltr (94 cents) in Spain for Diesel, the UK could do better is it was not for the greedy tax
soldierboy001 to Graham35
4 Jan 16#136
Then again it depends where you go, any were between 1.01 Euro to 89.9 cents around Benidorm, which equates to between 67 and 74ppl, but don't forget that diesel duty is at lower rate in Spain.
leon121
3 Jan 16#56
About time I hope other sellers will follow in tesco foot steps well done fantastic deal
gatch
3 Jan 16#59
costco has been this price for a while now, albeit members only. I wonder if they will cut further now?
julieallen
3 Jan 16#60
Is that not because v power has extra additives in it, rather than supermarket fuel being lower quality though?
ffcdoubleg
3 Jan 16#61
99p is better than we have had for as long as I can remember, but France already pay 75p, Spain pay 78p the EU average is 83p which we has the highest paying nation are bringing up
It's good news but with the tax we are paying to invest into MP wages and funding other Tax and Benefit cheats its not as exciting as it could be
BluesFanUK
3 Jan 16#62
Fiesta ST, and it's better for the car than Unleaded. Tesco is 99RON too.
OperateOnMe
3 Jan 16#63
You are right, spot on but you don't get that they sell half the time the lower grade viscosity product. It's why I strongly recommend going to a mini tesco express service station as they are linked with Aesop but use a higher grade than there own supermarket.
It is pennies at the end of the day but at the end of the year it makes a difference. Try looking at your fuel economy after 6 months of supermarket only, the 6 months of tesco-esso or other brand. I did this and notice an average difference of about 50miles extra on a full tank
thomaslilley716
3 Jan 16#64
No
eset12345
3 Jan 161#65
no they don't, standard diesel is only produces in 2 grades, the second of which is what is generally available at the forecourt because it's less volatile, and gives slightly better fuel econpmy, its the same stuff that gets sent to every forecourt that comes from the refinery that services your area on any given day, the only thing that is different between forecourt deliveries are the additives, which (debatably) makes the end product marginally more fuel efficient.
its the same sh*t whether you buy from tesco or shell, they don't have their own refineries, they don't source different oil, they don't have different processes in the refining, the diesel is produced between a small range of temperatures, and there's very little difference between oils from differing areas, the base product is exactly the same, whichever brand you choose to use, the only thing that is different is a few 'additives' which makes marginally more miles per gallon, but when you take in to account the extra cost, its a negligible saving in the pence per mile, you're talking fractions of a penny
julieallen
3 Jan 16#66
Well the shell site seems to think it is
Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel is formulated with a powerful cleaning agent designed to prevent and remove performance robbing engine deposits that can be left behind by non-premium fuels.
so it has a 'powerful cleaning agent' in it that other fuels don't, surely thats an additive?
What does make it better if not that?
eset12345
3 Jan 16#67
ok, how big is your tank? say 10 gallons on a little hatchback, that's an extra 5 miles per gallon difference, which could easily be attributed to weather conditions, tiem of year where your cars brain extra fuels on idle etc, traffic conditions, what you're lugging around in your car, the roads you use, tyre pressure, the newness of tyres, wether youve drove the same distance with windows up or down etc, how nes air finters are etc etc etc
but of course its the fuel that makes that extra 5mpg *facepalm*
Paddy22222222111111111
3 Jan 16#68
Still baffles me why people think shell fuel is better than tesco fuel haha
Any would love super unleaded to go down as thats what I need for my petrol guzzling 350z :smiley:
CouldntThinkOfAUsername to Paddy22222222111111111
3 Jan 161#69
Because the car drives better with Shell rather tan Tesco. It's not hard to notice.
I put in Shell but filled with Tesco petrol when it was cheap few weeks ago, the car's not as fast or responsive on acceleration.
julieallen
3 Jan 16#70
Notice you removed (or had removed) your post calling someone an idiot for saying theres only 2 grades, how about you provide proof theres more, as I can't see anything to suggest theres more than 2 grades done at the refinery?
BoGoF
3 Jan 16#72
doesnt help im selling my diesel for a thirsty v8 :confused:
anthony69
3 Jan 16#74
And that's another issue for another thread, on another site. This thread is purely about price, so in that regard its a hot deal.
SolidWarrior
3 Jan 16#75
Brilliant! Anyone know how long it's at this price for?
soldierboy001 to SolidWarrior
4 Jan 16#137
Just until the next price change.
zworld
3 Jan 16#76
I always use Shell unleaded petrol as it's the cheapest option.
Should I sometimes use the more expensive Nitro V to help my engine ?
johnfash86
3 Jan 16#77
Filled up today at 103.9p, cold from me, as I'm a cold person.
grandads50
3 Jan 16#79
the tesco near me is always 1p dearer than the tesco superstore 5 miles away, so how is it national,
iibdii
3 Jan 16#80
Already 99p at several locations in belfast so just in line with them. We dont have asda fuel here but only tesco n sainsburys and sainsburys still selling for 1.05
Voting hot
browntown
3 Jan 16#81
unfortunately I need the super diesel for the navara or it drives like Poo!
jamgin to browntown
3 Jan 16#88
Didn't realise Winnie the Pooh had a driving licence.
bargainhunter666 to browntown
4 Jan 16#103
It is still a Navara whatever you put in it - van or 4x4 or bully wagon???
haritori
3 Jan 16#82
Lucky I need to fill both cars tomorrow :smiley:
donb
3 Jan 16#83
At the rate of these price drops, your are better of filling up a half tank, it will probably be lower in a few days as others get involved with dropping prices. :-)
blindmansden
3 Jan 16#85
So I'll save 13p on a full tank tomorrow 64 litres
julieallen to blindmansden
3 Jan 16#89
if you are paying £0.999 at the moment, then yes, but think most people are saving around 5p per litre. I know Morrisons by me was £1.049 earlier today.
Spitroast2006
3 Jan 161#86
I used to always buy bp ultimate diesel for my 320d. Apparently the additives clean your fuel injectors and after about 3 consecutive fill ups you do notice a difference; reduced exhaust smoke, very slightly quicker acceleration and I'd get about 58mpg as opposed to 53 doing similar runs. It wasn't really worth the extra money for me so I've gone back to supermarket diesel now. Apparently the sportier the engine the more difference it makes so paying the extra might be worth it for some car fanatics.
Adding heat because it's cheapest it's been for a while. Not really hot hot yet though imo until uk gets in line with the rest of Europe, or even better, the US!
jamesdew to Spitroast2006
3 Jan 16#96
I ran v-power diesel in my 320d for a few tanks, I didn't notice any difference at all. I believe it is a placebo effect.
bargainhunter666 to Spitroast2006
4 Jan 161#104
I find getting VW to reduce emissions is the best way...
jamgin
3 Jan 16#87
I burn 100 waxwork models of Donald Trump each day to keep my chickens warm.
jamgin
3 Jan 16#90
Ummm. I'm on about nitrogen dioxide and particulants that diesel vehicles are polluting our towns and cities with.
Type diesel cars particulants into Google for the facts.
nickyd186
3 Jan 16#91
Morrisons was the something evening
Fireball XL-5 to nickyd186
3 Jan 162#92
Anyone?
Fireball XL-5
3 Jan 163#93
I have typed "diesel cars particulants" into Google and it comes back with "Did you mean: diesel cars particulates". Did you mean "diesel cars particulates"? :smiley:
norm1
3 Jan 162#94
Oil price drops in half takes 6 months to pass on a 5p saving to consumers. Oil price increases by a quarter pump price goes up 10p in 2 weeks.
Sound about right?
squiby to norm1
4 Jan 16#110
Not sure if it was gas or oil they were talking about but in one tv piece they said the raw product is purchased 2 years or so previously. if its fear that pushes them to hike it so quickly then maybe they should employ the opposite reaction now. 50p a litre sounds good, there should be a petrol tax credit also to undo the government robbery of late.
Diesel near me at morrisons is £105.9 and a shell garage less than a mile away is the same price .... Everyone still chooses morrisons?
waqasahmed to KEVIN6BZ
9 Jan 16#181
Bloody hell. ~ £5000 for a full tank for your car :smile:
Taz1529
3 Jan 16#100
Diesel is disgusting. It should be 50p more expensive to stop people buying diesel cars
Astec123 to Taz1529
4 Jan 166#105
I see you read the propaganda papers. Actually, you should be campaigning for the price increase on fuel in general. Petrol and Diesel are as bad as each other, neither being better than the other and it depends what benchmark you use to work out which is most dangerous. Just to give a snippet;
Carbon monoxide - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of this
Hydrocarbons - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of these
Nitrogen Oxides - Both fuel types are about as bad as each other here
Particulate matter - Diesels rule the roost for this (and it's particularly what the headlines are about)
Carbon dioxide - Petrol is slightly worse for this
* amusingly depending on who's report you read on the subject gives varying results and that's partly due to lobbying, individual agendas and so forth. However, all the reports I've ever seen certainly don't make diesel or petrol the king of the fuels, this is just an extract from one such report into the subject. I'm sure you can easily find a report that says diesel or petrol is the devils fuel and to use the other one.
As you can see neither is a slam dunk in terms of winning an "I'm better than you" race. Carbon monoxide is a greenhouse gas and highly poisonous, hydrocarbon are a cause of smog and linked to various illnesses, Nitrogen oxides are a key contributing factor to smog and acid rain, particulate matter causes smog and linked to various illnesses as well, carbon dioxide as we all know is a greenhouse gas. I'd safely say that neither option is ideal, but to blindly take what you read in the Daily Fail et al. as solid fact is a very bad line to take.
tragictramp
4 Jan 162#101
bought loads for ebay. :smirk:
bargainhunter666
4 Jan 161#102
Are we all going to stop rioting now? Sad to say but if we were stronger then this would (because it could have easily) have happened ages ago.
p.s. filled up last night :disappointed:
squiby
4 Jan 16#106
No, i think the giveaway is that fuel comes from a refinery. What usually happens at refineries is different grades of a certain product are produced. sort of comparable to a distillery, cheap stuff is syphoned off early and the good stuff comes after.
tazeembi
4 Jan 16#107
Fuel should be around 70-80p of going by the price of oil
julieallen to tazeembi
4 Jan 162#108
So you think of the 12.05p left from 70p that will be enough to pay for the oil, refine it, transport it, pay for rents on garages, all the staff along the way, the VAT and still leave a profit for everyone involved in the process?
Love to see how your figures come about?
The VAT alone pretty much covers the 12.05p.
rubycoco
4 Jan 16#109
this was mentioned earlier on hallam fm radio when id just topped up in asda at £1.03.99 PL slightly gutted as i topped up for sake of it being cheap, as i passed
Pluun
4 Jan 16#111
COLD!
It was this price at the Co-op garage in Seaton Delaval, last week PLUS a £5 off £20 spend in the shop :stuck_out_tongue:
Taz1529
4 Jan 16#112
I formed my own opinion based on a) the smell of all diesels bar a small minority of new ones b) the black smoke all of them produce c) petrol engines are more refined.
carolmcleod
4 Jan 16#113
Thanks OP :smiley:
Pluun
4 Jan 163#114
A. Mine doesn't produce black smoke and if it did, I'd have it fixed asap.
B. If petrol engines ARE more refined, how come my 2.2 liter diesel can go 50% farther than a 2.2 liter petrol engine on the same amount of fuel?
Oh and if you conk out with no petrol stations near, can you just lob in a couple of liters of cooking oil, to get yo to a garage?
"Refined" ?
Refined my ELBOW !
Elbow > ).( :smirk:
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
4 Jan 16#115
Diesel has more energy but it's not refined like a naturally aspirated petrol engine. Petrol engines don't need heaters to warm the cylinder's, turbos, particle filters and are heavier requiring more material to make. Petrols rev higher too nor do they sound like a tractor. I've only ever come across one OK diesel engine and that was in a Honda Accord. All others need refinement.
Why don't they make diesel engines to run specifically on veg oil and leave the crude oil for petrol.
It's not an exact science and varies depending on efficiency of equipment, the source of the crude oil in the first place, impurities and so fort. The but roughly you get from a single barrel are below, it's not an exact science to pull a single set of numbers so here's three.
42% Petrol
22% Diesel
9% Jet Fuel
5% Fuel Oil
4% Liquefied Petroleum Gases
18% Other products
You're welcome to suggest a use for all that Diesel.
iibdii
4 Jan 16#117
Just saw at sainsbury both petrol n diesel at 99p
jamgin
4 Jan 16#119
Grrrrr. I always get the word wrong. Should be: particulate
Or type: diesel pumping crap into the air
Cheers for pointing out.:smiley:
Houstieboy
4 Jan 165#121
Wow, you should be like a scientist or something, with that insight.
Happyday1234
4 Jan 16#122
The beauty of the HUKD is you learn something everyday. [Every Little Helps]
PatkW
4 Jan 16#123
I love how we all get giddy when fuel prices drop, not stopping to think that even at sub-£1 per litre, we still get massively ripped off in this country when buying fuel.
benasipro
4 Jan 16#124
Ok, but what will be the petrol price ?!?
LordyUK
4 Jan 16#125
Speaking as someone who has a family member who works for Esso, there is no difference in the base fuel. The only difference between fuel delivered to the offshoots is the chemical mix added to it (detergents, lead replacement, octane or cetane boosting additives, etc).
It's not exactly a secret, most people have known this for years...
Lorian
4 Jan 16#126
99.9 for petrol at Tesco, 99.7 for diesel as promised, heat added.
tommy8
4 Jan 161#127
i put 3 liters of petrol in my Audi before i topup with t regular diesel.
soldierboy001 to tommy8
4 Jan 16#143
Please provide your registration so I can avoid buying that car in the future if it lasts that long.
nnfc98
4 Jan 161#128
Tescos and all major supermarkets in Nottingham have had it below £1 for about 2 weeks
psd99
4 Jan 16#129
just seen it in asda
first time I ever seen petrol and diesel locked to under a quid in 5/6 years
frodon
4 Jan 16#130
good deal
vicx85
4 Jan 16#131
Morrisons the same this morning. Both Diesel and Petrol at 99.7p
farrukhsaeed
4 Jan 16#132
Agreed, I don't trust Super Market fuels.
Gaz_Oafc
4 Jan 16#133
Diesel is 97.9 at Costco Oldham this morning for anyone nearby with a card.
soldierboy001
4 Jan 16#134
What sort of seat do you drive, is it a kitchen chair, a bar stool or a plush armchair recliner you badge snob.
soldierboy001
4 Jan 16#135
Seems like a good deal if they are spaghetti hoops.
soldierboy001
4 Jan 16#138
Nah.
andreasuk
4 Jan 16#139
it doesn't matter..people go where its the cheapest
waqasahmed to andreasuk
9 Jan 16#182
Personally, I go to either Shell, Texaco or Esso. On the way from work, I pass a shell and a Texaco (Oh and Tesco), so all is good. There's also a Shell on the way, to the place I go to lunch
andreasuk
4 Jan 16#140
have you got any proof for that?
soldierboy001
4 Jan 161#141
Can't use veg oil because we don't have enough land to grow it on in the world. everything has it's draw backs.
andreasuk
4 Jan 16#142
he is just 1 of those loyal customers:-)
avalon50
4 Jan 16#144
I've just been to my local Asda and filled up with unleaded.
goombahxxx
4 Jan 16#145
As of 12.30 Tescos in Falkirk still not reduced, probably waiting on everyone filling up for first day back tomorrow...
millwall1
4 Jan 16#146
Just filled up 200 litres in wagon at Morrisons elland west Yorkshire. 99.7p
craigy1982
4 Jan 16#147
Is petrol dropping as well?
kennyn1980
4 Jan 16#148
I just came here for the "supermarket fuel is rubbish" comments.
adigraham
4 Jan 16#150
Confirmed in Swindon Tescos.
abdi12346
4 Jan 16#151
Cheers Op
swilsonwilson301
4 Jan 16#152
What about unleaded ???
bojangles
4 Jan 16#153
103.9 at my local tesco
Z0rr0
4 Jan 16#154
99.7p both unleaded or diesel at Halifax
Pluun
4 Jan 163#155
Please base your "facts" on facts.
1. My engine will start straight away, and does not need "heaters to warm the cylinders". I think you are referring to "Glow plugs" which help to ignite the fuel as startup.
However, my diesel does not need spark plugs to ignite EVERY power stroke a piston makes!
2. A diesel does not NEED a turbo. Just like many "Turbo'd" petrol engines don't.
3. Please explain the benefit of "reving higher". As my diesel can travel at 130 MPH as it is, I have no need to "rev higher".
4. Having operated "tractors" all my working life I don't even think you know what one sounds like and you certainly don't know what a diesel car sounds like.
5. The diesel engine WAS designed to run on vegetable oil. Peanut oil, I believe.
Please stop showing your ignorance to the forum.
And don't bother with any more invented "refinements" as you are boring me now and I will not see them as you are blocked.
nickos99
4 Jan 161#156
1. I don't know about modern diesels, not had one for years but older engines did need glowplugs to start, turn the key, wait for the light to go out then fire it up, I imagine that process is built into the engine now?
2.it looks like he was saying diesels need to warm the turbos, not sure on that one.
3.revving higher means a car needs less displacement for a higher bhp, so for the same displacement a petrol car will achieve a higher BHP.
4.I'm sure he meant some diesels sound terrible, having operated knijpstra trailers and tractors in a previous life I can honestly say I've heard diesels that sound like a John deere.
5.it is extremely costly, messy and takes alot of work to convert a diesel engine to work on veg oil, the 1000-2000 filter changes, extra tank, sensors, fuel lines, having to purge the veg oil before it solidifies, New fuel pumps, and reworking the sensors and electrical systems on modern engines means it does work but you need to be doing a lot of mileage for it to be cost effective.
6.there's no need to be insulting and call people ignorant because you think you know more than them, most unnessesary. I will await the block.
Pluun
4 Jan 161#157
"Extremely costly"? Buying 2 liters of vegetable oil at ASDA and pouring it into the tank now and then is costly?
I did not insult anyone, just gave them advice.
Whereas they insulted MY intelligence by spouting pure ( better just say "poo" here as some are very delicate and will run to the teacher if I say "****")
"less displacement for a higher bhp"? So?
How about "More displacement for less revs"? AND vastly better MPG!
I'm just a normal guy and I really HATE it when I meet some fool who makes me feel superior and I get delusions of adequacy :confused:
nickos99 to Pluun
6 Jan 16#172
If you think running a car on veg oil is as simple as pouring 2 litres of the stuff in your tank you have no right to call anyone else ignorant
hartdave
5 Jan 16#158
it would be 40ppl if it wasn't taxed so much.
vmistery
5 Jan 16#160
At my local Sainsburys it has gone down to 99.9 from around 105.9 so I am very pleased. As I fill up every week if it stays down I will save a fair amount.
tallpete33
5 Jan 16#161
So it's back to what it was in November when Brent Crude was about 15 bucks pb more extensive. I'll leave the champagne on ice, ta
madscientis
5 Jan 16#162
After 2000 comments, probably this is a good time to post at least 1 deal soldier :smiley:
shridd
5 Jan 16#163
99.9p at Sainsbury now ...
Plus I've a voucher for 7p/litre off that was part of a 'Spend £15 on laundry supplies' offer a couple of weeks ago,,,,
gagapuk
5 Jan 16#164
Wow after many years price went down below pound.
soldierboy001
5 Jan 16#166
After 4 years is it not time to know that HUKD is not just about posting deals?
gunner786
6 Jan 16#168
Was this price in hatfield last night
crgritchie
6 Jan 16#169
cold from me - Asda have been selling at 99.7p for over 2 weeks in Waterlooville. Sainsburys and Morrisons followed suit at 99.9p not long after. Still happy it is happening after paying £1.30 which was a disgrace.
soldierboy001 to crgritchie
6 Jan 16#170
Please explain why it was a disgrace.
jcvanshazam
6 Jan 16#171
Excellent. Good to see we are winning the war on terror.
crgritchie
7 Jan 16#173
Why it was a disgrace to have to pay £1.30+ for a litre of petrol? Does that really need explaining? But just in case it does, it was because it was a lot of money.
greg666
7 Jan 16#174
Love it!
Martini
8 Jan 161#175
Just had a look on PETROLPRICES.COM and the price of Diesel is 99.7 absolutely everywhere I looked.
This is the first time I have ever seen this!
Grantham, Watford, Swindon, Tyneside have always been known to me as cheaper areas.
This is not the case at the moment. Everywhere is the same
soldierboy001
8 Jan 16#176
Then you know nothing about the cost of running the country. People like you complain when the government does not give money for certain things but are not prepared to contribute taxes to pay for these so called neccessaties. If you don't like it you should for a government party to tackle this and then see how many join you and then you can have tax free and duty free fuel for your car and the poverty you can enjoy in Venezuela.
julieallen
8 Jan 16#177
A house is a lot of money, does that mean it is a disgrace if someone sells a house for £100,000?
Fireball XL-5
8 Jan 16#178
No offence intended by my post. I did really know what you meant. Just trying to lighten things up :smiley:
crgritchie
8 Jan 16#179
so you voted this cold too, but for different reasons from me then?
Presumably if fuel was already dirt cheap at £1.30 per litre (which is a huge discount of 99.9987% from £100,000) then a piffling further 0.00031% discount on an already fab price is hardly worth bothering about :stuck_out_tongue:
davidicus
8 Jan 16#180
I generally fill up with fuel from ASDA, but once a quarter year I draw a full tank of Shell V Power to clean the innards. It seems to be a fair balance.
Pluun
9 Jan 16#183
Just back from hospital.
Car stood since Tuesday.
Started 1st time "with FOUR LITERS" of ASDA's cheapest vege oil in.
Disbeleiiers, just swallow.
You're good at it. :smiley:
andreasuk
9 Jan 16#184
You might be the odd one out:-)
shridd
9 Jan 161#185
Petrol & Diesel at Sainsbury's is 99.9p, both at Waitrose 200 yards away are 103.9p.
But there are still queues at Waitrose ... people are just strange...
Also if you go to a Shell petrol station, a Morrison's, Tesco, a BP, a Texaco, etc - you could be filling with EXACTLY the same fuel as all stations use whatever supplies they can get - so could be any providers fuel in any station's tanks. Can be Esso petrol you're getting at a BP station.
soldierboy001 to shridd
9 Jan 16#186
You might want to think so but you are completely wrong, but never mind just you keep believing because any tanker driver will tell you the truth and it is not what you want to believe.
Tronads
9 Jan 16#187
Not entirely sure it can be called "a sensible price"......it's cheaper than it was, but at £4.50 a gallon, its far from sensible compared to what most other western countries pay.
soldierboy001 to Tronads
9 Jan 16#188
Most other Western Countries don't have the huge costs of running the country and other countries citizens like we do, some one has to pay for it and who better than motorists, smokers and boozers.
nickburcombe
9 Jan 16#189
I managed to fill up at Costco Liverpool for 98.9 on "Unleaded" and I noticed it was 97.9 on "Premium Diesel". I think Super Unleaded was 101.9 (can't be sure). This only really makes any sense if you're a member already and use it regularly in conjunction with their Execituve Card. Overall, Costco is the cheapest I've seen to date and they are generally a couple of pence cheaper than the supermarkets (they also respond to price changes in the market much quicker too). Note: Not all Costco's have a petrol station so check before you sign up for a membership sub.
guptalloyd
10 Jan 16#190
Oh god, my pants are wet. Usually pay 104.9 for 99 momentum (petrol), can't believe diesel is cheaper, won't sleep tonight. 99RON or Shell V+ ????
guptalloyd
10 Jan 16#191
Momentum FTW. A mercedes W202 Kompressor. 25MPG on normal, 28MPG on Momentum/Shell 99
OperateOnMe
10 Jan 16#192
lol face palm from an idiot, read the post, the observation is from many years of driving since you were in dippers, duh it inc. most caveats you mentioned, you must feel a bit of a moron. There are many factors that affect performance of an internal combustion engine, it's practical physics, the oil and revs..... All matter. At the end of the day my comment was not for you but an observation for others that grade of fuel even from the same company overall does make a difference. Hence recommendation to use post related tesco esso rather than large tesco supermarket forecourts for better value for the same price
Opening post
Source: https://twitter.com/TescoMedia/status/683639951783784448
Also announced by Asda at their fuel stations effective Monday about 3 hours earlier
https://twitter.com/asda
- EveshamLad
Top comments
Diesel fumes are poisoning everybody.
Carbon monoxide - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of this
Hydrocarbons - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of these
Nitrogen Oxides - Both fuel types are about as bad as each other here
Particulate matter - Diesels rule the roost for this (and it's particularly what the headlines are about)
Carbon dioxide - Petrol is slightly worse for this
* amusingly depending on who's report you read on the subject gives varying results and that's partly due to lobbying, individual agendas and so forth. However, all the reports I've ever seen certainly don't make diesel or petrol the king of the fuels, this is just an extract from one such report into the subject. I'm sure you can easily find a report that says diesel or petrol is the devils fuel and to use the other one.
As you can see neither is a slam dunk in terms of winning an "I'm better than you" race. Carbon monoxide is a greenhouse gas and highly poisonous, hydrocarbon are a cause of smog and linked to various illnesses, Nitrogen oxides are a key contributing factor to smog and acid rain, particulate matter causes smog and linked to various illnesses as well, carbon dioxide as we all know is a greenhouse gas. I'd safely say that neither option is ideal, but to blindly take what you read in the Daily Fail et al. as solid fact is a very bad line to take.
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Edit: Seems to have changed...
I will STICK with the closest company/station of the lot like any sane person looking to make their tank of fuel go the longest at the best price they can get.
http://your.asda.com/press-centre/asda-first-to-drop-diesel-below-one-pound
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/asda-diesel-now-997-2366671
Diesel fumes are poisoning everybody.
Would be nice just to be able to get hold of super unleaded at my local tesco.my car has to run on a min of 97 Ron,yet I struggle to get it as too many muppets fill up with it thinking it will turn their car into some beast when their car only requires normal unleaded.
Stop copying the same crap everyone else wrights down on here. It comes from the same refineries but they have different grades ffs. I notice the difference straight away when I top up with shell v power and so does everyone else who know's anything about cars. If you want to put cheap supermarket diesel in your car then go for it, each to their own...
It's good news but with the tax we are paying to invest into MP wages and funding other Tax and Benefit cheats its not as exciting as it could be
It is pennies at the end of the day but at the end of the year it makes a difference. Try looking at your fuel economy after 6 months of supermarket only, the 6 months of tesco-esso or other brand. I did this and notice an average difference of about 50miles extra on a full tank
its the same sh*t whether you buy from tesco or shell, they don't have their own refineries, they don't source different oil, they don't have different processes in the refining, the diesel is produced between a small range of temperatures, and there's very little difference between oils from differing areas, the base product is exactly the same, whichever brand you choose to use, the only thing that is different is a few 'additives' which makes marginally more miles per gallon, but when you take in to account the extra cost, its a negligible saving in the pence per mile, you're talking fractions of a penny
Shell V-Power Nitro+ Diesel is formulated with a powerful cleaning agent designed to prevent and remove performance robbing engine deposits that can be left behind by non-premium fuels.
so it has a 'powerful cleaning agent' in it that other fuels don't, surely thats an additive?
What does make it better if not that?
but of course its the fuel that makes that extra 5mpg *facepalm*
Any would love super unleaded to go down as thats what I need for my petrol guzzling 350z :smiley:
I put in Shell but filled with Tesco petrol when it was cheap few weeks ago, the car's not as fast or responsive on acceleration.
Should I sometimes use the more expensive Nitro V to help my engine ?
Voting hot
Adding heat because it's cheapest it's been for a while. Not really hot hot yet though imo until uk gets in line with the rest of Europe, or even better, the US!
Type diesel cars particulants into Google for the facts.
Sound about right?
Carbon monoxide - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of this
Hydrocarbons - Diesel performs better for lower emissions of these
Nitrogen Oxides - Both fuel types are about as bad as each other here
Particulate matter - Diesels rule the roost for this (and it's particularly what the headlines are about)
Carbon dioxide - Petrol is slightly worse for this
* amusingly depending on who's report you read on the subject gives varying results and that's partly due to lobbying, individual agendas and so forth. However, all the reports I've ever seen certainly don't make diesel or petrol the king of the fuels, this is just an extract from one such report into the subject. I'm sure you can easily find a report that says diesel or petrol is the devils fuel and to use the other one.
As you can see neither is a slam dunk in terms of winning an "I'm better than you" race. Carbon monoxide is a greenhouse gas and highly poisonous, hydrocarbon are a cause of smog and linked to various illnesses, Nitrogen oxides are a key contributing factor to smog and acid rain, particulate matter causes smog and linked to various illnesses as well, carbon dioxide as we all know is a greenhouse gas. I'd safely say that neither option is ideal, but to blindly take what you read in the Daily Fail et al. as solid fact is a very bad line to take.
p.s. filled up last night :disappointed:
Love to see how your figures come about?
The VAT alone pretty much covers the 12.05p.
It was this price at the Co-op garage in Seaton Delaval, last week PLUS a £5 off £20 spend in the shop :stuck_out_tongue:
B. If petrol engines ARE more refined, how come my 2.2 liter diesel can go 50% farther than a 2.2 liter petrol engine on the same amount of fuel?
Oh and if you conk out with no petrol stations near, can you just lob in a couple of liters of cooking oil, to get yo to a garage?
"Refined" ?
Refined my ELBOW !
Elbow > ).( :smirk:
Why don't they make diesel engines to run specifically on veg oil and leave the crude oil for petrol.
http://www.petroleum.co.uk/refining
It's not an exact science and varies depending on efficiency of equipment, the source of the crude oil in the first place, impurities and so fort. The but roughly you get from a single barrel are below, it's not an exact science to pull a single set of numbers so here's three.
42% Petrol
22% Diesel
9% Jet Fuel
5% Fuel Oil
4% Liquefied Petroleum Gases
18% Other products
You're welcome to suggest a use for all that Diesel.
Or type: diesel pumping crap into the air
Cheers for pointing out.:smiley:
It's not exactly a secret, most people have known this for years...
first time I ever seen petrol and diesel locked to under a quid in 5/6 years
1. My engine will start straight away, and does not need "heaters to warm the cylinders". I think you are referring to "Glow plugs" which help to ignite the fuel as startup.
However, my diesel does not need spark plugs to ignite EVERY power stroke a piston makes!
2. A diesel does not NEED a turbo. Just like many "Turbo'd" petrol engines don't.
3. Please explain the benefit of "reving higher". As my diesel can travel at 130 MPH as it is, I have no need to "rev higher".
4. Having operated "tractors" all my working life I don't even think you know what one sounds like and you certainly don't know what a diesel car sounds like.
5. The diesel engine WAS designed to run on vegetable oil. Peanut oil, I believe.
Please stop showing your ignorance to the forum.
And don't bother with any more invented "refinements" as you are boring me now and I will not see them as you are blocked.
2.it looks like he was saying diesels need to warm the turbos, not sure on that one.
3.revving higher means a car needs less displacement for a higher bhp, so for the same displacement a petrol car will achieve a higher BHP.
4.I'm sure he meant some diesels sound terrible, having operated knijpstra trailers and tractors in a previous life I can honestly say I've heard diesels that sound like a John deere.
5.it is extremely costly, messy and takes alot of work to convert a diesel engine to work on veg oil, the 1000-2000 filter changes, extra tank, sensors, fuel lines, having to purge the veg oil before it solidifies, New fuel pumps, and reworking the sensors and electrical systems on modern engines means it does work but you need to be doing a lot of mileage for it to be cost effective.
6.there's no need to be insulting and call people ignorant because you think you know more than them, most unnessesary. I will await the block.
I did not insult anyone, just gave them advice.
Whereas they insulted MY intelligence by spouting pure ( better just say "poo" here as some are very delicate and will run to the teacher if I say "****")
"less displacement for a higher bhp"? So?
How about "More displacement for less revs"? AND vastly better MPG!
I'm just a normal guy and I really HATE it when I meet some fool who makes me feel superior and I get delusions of adequacy :confused:
Plus I've a voucher for 7p/litre off that was part of a 'Spend £15 on laundry supplies' offer a couple of weeks ago,,,,
This is the first time I have ever seen this!
Grantham, Watford, Swindon, Tyneside have always been known to me as cheaper areas.
This is not the case at the moment. Everywhere is the same
Presumably if fuel was already dirt cheap at £1.30 per litre (which is a huge discount of 99.9987% from £100,000) then a piffling further 0.00031% discount on an already fab price is hardly worth bothering about :stuck_out_tongue:
Car stood since Tuesday.
Started 1st time "with FOUR LITERS" of ASDA's cheapest vege oil in.
Disbeleiiers, just swallow.
You're good at it. :smiley:
But there are still queues at Waitrose ... people are just strange...
Also if you go to a Shell petrol station, a Morrison's, Tesco, a BP, a Texaco, etc - you could be filling with EXACTLY the same fuel as all stations use whatever supplies they can get - so could be any providers fuel in any station's tanks. Can be Esso petrol you're getting at a BP station.