The BiPAC 8800NL is an all-in-one small footprint VDSL2/ADSL2+ broadband router with high-speed 802.11n wireless technology. It supports all UK networks regardless of connection type, working with ADSL2+, VDSL2 (FTTC), Fibre and Cable technology making it an ideal device for customers with BT Infinity, Sky Fibre, TalkTalk, Virgin Media, Plusnet etc. Users can enjoy ADSL2+ and VDSL2 services and broadband multimedia applications such as interactive gaming, video streaming and real-time audio much easier and faster than ever before with the renowned Broadcom chipset.
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spannerzone to stoney73
10 Jan 163#3
Probably fairly similar broadly speaking, I spent time reviewig the various models that had VDSL and concluded TP Link and Billion's were pretty similar in most respects. This Billion has no external antennas so could be slighly poorer than the TP Link (edit) which states: antennas boast gains of 3 x 2 dBi for 2.4 GHz and 1 x 3 dBi for 5 GHz so could be better on wifi than the Billion
The TP Link you listed is a newer model than the Billion, whether that makes any odds. I went for the older TP Link W9980 which is ADSL and VDSL Fibre and works very well and is currently under £50.
edit: oh yeah, this Billion is 2.4GHz wifi only and only has 1 gigabit port , the TP Link's have 5GHz and 4 gigabit ports
Probably fairly similar broadly speaking, I spent time reviewig the various models that had VDSL and concluded TP Link and Billion's were pretty similar in most respects. This Billion has no external antennas so could be slighly poorer than the TP Link (edit) which states: antennas boast gains of 3 x 2 dBi for 2.4 GHz and 1 x 3 dBi for 5 GHz so could be better on wifi than the Billion
The TP Link you listed is a newer model than the Billion, whether that makes any odds. I went for the older TP Link W9980 which is ADSL and VDSL Fibre and works very well and is currently under £50.
edit: oh yeah, this Billion is 2.4GHz wifi only and only has 1 gigabit port , the TP Link's have 5GHz and 4 gigabit ports
might sound a bit dumb ,but what would I gain by using a router like this instead of the one supplied by my broadband company
melted to bullerbug
10 Jan 161#6
Depends on what hardware your broadband provider supplied you with, but in my case I'd like to be able to configure firewall rules to block my IP camera from connecting to its P2P server, while still allowing it to connect to a mail server and time server, my ISP supplied vdsl router only provides a block or allow everything. Ideally, I'd also like one that can route my landline calls over wifi to an app on my mobile, which this can't, but I gather is possible with some rather expensive Fritzsbox routers.
I'd also want 4 gigabit ports and 5ghz wifi (due to sharing 2,4ghz channels with too many neighbours) which this doesn't have, but the isp provided one does.
UZOR to bullerbug
11 Jan 161#8
if it's sky then you'll improve the wifi performance drastically
pennyfarthing88
10 Jan 16#7
Scores great reviews on Amazon link below if anybody wants a read up on this billion one -
Do many (If any) "home" routers actually give you that level of control over the firewall?
Something running RouterOS or EdgeOS would give you that level of control, but if you are used to the typical home routers the learning curve is the equivalent of driving off a cliff in a reliant robin.. Also no integrated modem and possibly no wireless either!
A "Consumer" router that can run something like OpenWRT isn't a bad shout either.
JCLARSSON
18 Jan 16#10
can you use other routers sky fibre??
fuzzface
19 Jan 161#11
Billion make great routers. Use them all the time at work. Super reliable and stable in my opinion. This one looks like a good deal.
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Good price for a very good router :)
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The BiPAC 8800NL is an all-in-one small footprint VDSL2/ADSL2+ broadband router with high-speed 802.11n wireless technology. It supports all UK networks regardless of connection type, working with ADSL2+, VDSL2 (FTTC), Fibre and Cable technology making it an ideal device for customers with BT Infinity, Sky Fibre, TalkTalk, Virgin Media, Plusnet etc. Users can enjoy ADSL2+ and VDSL2 services and broadband multimedia applications such as interactive gaming, video streaming and real-time audio much easier and faster than ever before with the renowned Broadcom chipset.
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The TP Link you listed is a newer model than the Billion, whether that makes any odds. I went for the older TP Link W9980 which is ADSL and VDSL Fibre and works very well and is currently under £50.
edit: oh yeah, this Billion is 2.4GHz wifi only and only has 1 gigabit port , the TP Link's have 5GHz and 4 gigabit ports
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The TP Link you listed is a newer model than the Billion, whether that makes any odds. I went for the older TP Link W9980 which is ADSL and VDSL Fibre and works very well and is currently under £50.
edit: oh yeah, this Billion is 2.4GHz wifi only and only has 1 gigabit port , the TP Link's have 5GHz and 4 gigabit ports
I'd also want 4 gigabit ports and 5ghz wifi (due to sharing 2,4ghz channels with too many neighbours) which this doesn't have, but the isp provided one does.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00K6D2ESM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1452454104&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=billion+8800nl&dpPl=1&dpID=3183xIT%2BtpL&ref=plSrch
Something running RouterOS or EdgeOS would give you that level of control, but if you are used to the typical home routers the learning curve is the equivalent of driving off a cliff in a reliant robin.. Also no integrated modem and possibly no wireless either!
A "Consumer" router that can run something like OpenWRT isn't a bad shout either.