Probably fairly similar broadly speaking, I spent time reviewig the various models that had VDSL and concluded TP Link and Billion's were pretty similar in most respects. This Billion has no external antennas so could be slighly poorer than the TP Link (edit) which states: antennas boast gains of 3 x 2 dBi for 2.4 GHz and 1 x 3 dBi for 5 GHz so could be better on wifi than the Billion

The TP Link you listed is a newer model than the Billion, whether that makes any odds. I went for the older TP Link W9980 which is ADSL and VDSL Fibre and works very well and is currently under £50.

edit: oh yeah, this Billion is 2.4GHz wifi only and only has 1 gigabit port , the TP Link's have 5GHz and 4 gigabit ports

Surely you would just be better off keeping the router you have and spending the money on getting a better ip camera that doesn't have the p2p integration?

I was rather interested in the tp-link vr200v, which I believe has voip and dect, like a fritzbox, unfortunately they don't do a uk (ADSL over POTS) version: http://www.amazon.de/gp/switch-language/product/B00U7FU2XS/ref=cs_switchlang?ie=UTF8&language=en_GB

Brilliant router getting 19mb by tweaking the snr. 12.5mb with bt home hub. Go for it you won't be disappointed.

I have a Billion 7800N router and it is great and really flexible as well as a great firewall it also allows me to set a timer for internet on and off currently 11pm weekdays and midnight weekends... this prevents my teenage son from using it and playing games all night! also I have it configured for the ip addresses of his iPhone, x-box, PC etc so that any time he is stroppy and wont take a telling I just block all of his access to the internet by Wi-Fi on all his units - THE best disciplinary tool in my box!!! it doesn't take long for him to toe the line...;-) am I a bad dad???

I have this router. I paid £66.43 from Amazon in October 2014 so I am not sure if this is a good deal, given that there is a new model out now. It's not a bad router but it does need a reboot from time to time as it seems to forget its settings.

How does this compare to 7800dxl?
I've got that setup for multiple ip cameras, but it would be good to remove the BT fibre modem box out of the equation with a vdsl2 box like this. Just wondering if I can setup IP cams easily as with 7800dxl?

Most of the home routers I've had provided a firewall with rules you could configure for specific LAN devices to allow and block access to/from IP address and port ranges, which would do what I want.

On several of them (mostly old Netgears) I discovered it was also possible to create a shell exploit to inject a script into the NVRAM that automatically runs at start up, which could do pretty much anything, from downloading my own executables into its RAM to modifying IPTables.

Also if you are high user of network at your home or office then the broadband router might be no good. Mine normally fries in a day - and to save myself all the headache of repeatedly replacing those cheap devices - I buy a good quality off the market product!

Got this a couple of days ago. TP link Archer D2 AC750 Been great so far and the wifi is way better than my old D link. Also has 4 gigabit ports.

Does any one know if this supports multiple public IP addresses. At this price I might cosider changing my 7 year old billion router.

You can use other routers on Sky & Sky Fibre if you have the stock modem to obtain the details from. For Sky Fibre you also need to buy a router that supports MER (MAC Encapsulated Routing) I believe the Billion 8800N is one of few currently able to do this.

There is a guide below on how to retrieve the username and password from your old Sky Router here. This works for the Current Black or White Sky SR101/102 Hubs.

***Guide***

Billion make great routers. Use them all the time at work. Super reliable and stable in my opinion. This one looks like a good deal.

​can you use other routers sky fibre??

Do many (If any) "home" routers actually give you that level of control over the firewall?

Something running RouterOS or EdgeOS would give you that level of control, but if you are used to the typical home routers the learning curve is the equivalent of driving off a cliff in a reliant robin.. Also no integrated modem and possibly no wireless either!

A "Consumer" router that can run something like OpenWRT isn't a bad shout either.

might sound a bit dumb ,but what would I gain by using a router like this instead of the one supplied by my broadband company

Scores great reviews on Amazon link below if anybody wants a read up on this billion one -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00K6D2ESM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1452454104&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=billion+8800nl&dpPl=1&dpID=3183xIT%2BtpL&ref=plSrch

Is the Billion better than this TP Link? TP-LINK Archer VR200 AC750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit VDSL2/ADSL2+ Modem Router (300 Mbps on 2.4 GHz, 433 Mbps on 5 GHz, Beamforming Technology) http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-Archer-VR200-Beamforming-Technology/dp/B0161AC69A

good find op, heat added :smiley: