​it's not about tv really, buy it and you can play PlayStation vita / psp and classics on it

The Video seems a bit creepy on shopto. I mean what adult has his mate round and gets sent to his bedroom by his kid?

3.20 OFW is the absolute lowest firmware that PSTV has so no, you either get one with that or you don't. PlayStation account is only used to transfer the two exploitable games.

sounds cool, can the OFW be installed on PSTV? will it void the PS account?

What's the difference between using this and Remote Play?

Sorry, a bit confusing! I meant it's connected using a cable (rather than wirelessly) through a gigabit switch to my home network. Incidentally, as all my network kit is in the loft, that's also where the wireless access point is which means the PSTV gets a very strong wireless connection. I was going to run some cables down into the bedroom but as the wireless seems to work so well, I'm having second thoughts.

In terms of online lag, that's going to be more affected by the speed of your internet connection rather than the home network, be it wired or wireless. Personally I did notice a slight improvement having my PS3 connected with a cable rather than wireless which is why I ran some cables into the lounge. I think using powerline adapters is a good way of doing the same thing without the mess!

Does this include a controller?

i don't have a ps4 or psv. I only have a ps3 and a psp. Does the PS TV work with PSP games only if you have got those games from the psp?

One can play all PSP games without rebuying them from the PS Store but as far as how that goes.. Wololo.

Exactly.

Just the thought of playing PSP and PS1 games on a micro-console makes it totally worth it. Sucks for those who don't see its value.

Played FIFA this morning streamed to tv upstairs. Worked perfect

I've read that playing online on a different TV using pstv is not very good and there is a massive lag. can anyone confirm this before I purchase please

Thanks, the power line adaptors are doing the job fine. I just wondered if improving the cables would make it any better, if not I'm still happy.

I get a small, tiny bit of lag online, but overall I'm happy. Especially for offline games such as watchdogs/fallout

Your cables are rated for certain speeds. Cat5 should support 1 gigabit no problem because it has enough wires inside it. There are cables rated Cat6, which are basically guaranteed to support 1 gigabit speeds - but the only difference is that Cat6 cables were tested at those speeds and are certified for them. You are basically paying for the certification, nothing else.

Also, the things you posted are powerline adapters - they are pretty quick, but depending on your house they can introduce quite a bit of lag. Personally, I've ran actual cables up and down the house, the connection is much better suited for remote play that way.

Great little gadget. I've got mine setup wirelessly in the bedroom with the PS4 connected to the network using gigabit cable downstairs. Streams games brilliantly with no lag I can see at all, tried it with Assassins Creed Syndicate and MGS V.

Played call of duty adv W. without a problem.

Just wish it would work on 5ghz to avoid interference!

i see. how about custom roms and downloads from internet? (if you know what i mean lol)

Wherever*

The 3 games are included with the PS TV whether you buy it from. Standard. I got the code within my order from Shopto

Think means the £38 one, three voucher vita games inc. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PVHEHWSNY81823-PlayStation-TV/dp/B00KJG45AQ/ref=sr_1_13?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1448665961&sr=1-13&keywords=playstation+tv

Anyone considering this check out the Amazon deal also as that one comes with 3 games for £5 more

Try changing the display settings on your PS TV to 720p and not auto. It will not try and adjust then.

My set up is PS4 wired into router. Router has a 500mb tplink plug connected. Upstairs my PS TV is connected to the other tplink plug. This set up runs more smoothly then it did over wireless.

Admittedly COD wasn't great, I was able to make kills but was delayed. If I play an offline game though like watchdogs or fallout it's perfect though, no issues. That's what I will use mine for. When she watches her sh1t I can play my sh1t :smiley:

all these poor reports of game streaming (even on wired networks) makes me wonder how on earth streaming to vr headsets is going to work?

can you load kodi on to this?

Will this stream the SkyGo app from the console? Could make the PS4 more appealing for our family set up...

So... New cable made no difference, different gigabit switch made no difference.. So it's either my ps4, my PSTV, the settings on one of these or just my standards are too high! My housemate also has a ps4 so when he's not using it I'll connect to his and see how that goes.. Would be handy if you could tell me what your settings are on your ps4 and PSTV. My ps4 is currently set to 1080 resolution, wondering if you have yours on 720? Making the transcoding easier perhaps? And is the PSTV on standard settings?

No idea what this issue is then, my network setup is business grade kit, connected to a 24port rack mount gigabit switch, definitely not connected to wireless either via the Cisco access points or direct between devices as they couldn't physically get the signal between each other... The only thing I can think of is the long run of network cable from one end to the other, but not even close to a 100ft cable run, will crimp up another direct cable and see if that makes any difference, if it does I'll report back..

The thing is, I'm not pulling this out of my ass - I have a setup at home where I've played GTA 5 over remote play for many hours and while there is a tiny bit of lag, it's certainly not bad enough to stop me from enjoying the game. Hence, I think that there is still some problem with your config - bad switch, bad cable, PSTV connecting over Wi-Fi or PS4 connecting over wifi, despite having a cable plugged in. I mean, I could very easily record myself playing GTA5 over remoteplay and put it on youtube, and you would see that it can be smooth. I have no interest in convincing you it is though, I don't work for either Sony or Rockstar :P

I've just plugged in the gigabit cable directly to the ps4, as this was going via a 100 mbit switch, and still the same all the settings are correct, have tried pretty much every combination of setting on ps4 and PSTV, and still too much lag for ps4 to make it acceptable, try driving a car on GTA in any form of traffic you'll see what I mean, it's only a fraction of a second, but that's the difference between plying an enjoyable game and crashing in to an easily avoidable car!

I had the same, I'm on 100mb virgin
But had the ps4 and the pstv running through tp link 500mb extenders, really bad! Then I put the ps4 straight into router and hey presto

If you have "connect directly to PS4 system" enabled, it will ignore your wired connection and still connect via wifi, causing lag. I've got a setup with everything connected over gigabit ethernet and it's running very, very well, certainly well enough to play GTA.

​76mbps is NOT a fast WIRED connection, hells it's not even a fast wireless connection. Try going 1000mbps, gigabit setups are cheap as hell nowadays.

Hopefully you are not talking about your external connection (internet), as that will have zero affect on how streaming works while you are at home. You can have a 1000mbps internet connection, but the speed at witch your data moves inside of the house (Local area network) through your devices will be limited by your router/hub/switch (they usually come at 100mbps or 1000mbps).

It's highly recommend that you use a gigabit wired connection on your PSTV to your PS4. Make sure both are connected to the same hub/switch/router, as having multiple switches can cause bottlenecks (the speed within the switch is the best, once you connect another switch all devices connected to the second switch will be limited in communication to the devices on the first switch by the link the the first switch is connected to the second switch.



Blah i said switch too many times!

I hope this helps you get a better connection with you PSTV, i don't own one (that's why i am looking at this deal) but i have quite a bit of experience in ICT Infrastructure professionally and i thought this information might help you.

My most recent playstation product was the PS3. Would I be able to use the PSTV to play Vita games on the TV without buying anything else? (i.e using it as a stand-alone or with the PS3?)

"If you are connecting the systems directly using Wi-Fi, select (Settings) > [Remote Play Connection Settings] from the PS4™ system's function screen, and then select the [Connect Directly with PS Vita/PS TV] checkbox to set a checkmark."

Make sure that is unchecked

Fairy snuff :smiley:

Just thought you wanted something like that and it may help others who are thinking of something similar.

Have just nabbed one of thes pstv things myself (already had streaming across the house sorted) but occasionally i want to finish a bit of a game but in bed, this might help and can do some vita stuff too now without investing much there.

Well, I would probably need a good 30-40 metres of HDMI cable, and I don't think they work well over such distance(even if they did, I doubt that the controllers would have signal past all the walls.). And I have the cables laid down so my desktop PC has stable internet, I didn't lay down so much gigabit cable just to use remoteplay :-)

Wires everywhere defeats the object no? Might as well just switch over a hdmi cable

My most recent playstation product was the PS3. Would I be able to use the PSTV to play Vita games on the TV without buying anything else? (i.e using it as a stand-alone or with the PS3?)

The Video seems a bit creepy on shopto. I mean what adult has his mate round and gets sent to his bedroom by his kid?

Is the new model (VTE-1016)?

£28 in CeX if you don't mind a used one.

PSTV is an incredible micro-console given when it's in the right hands. I.e, the PSTV is able to play every PS1 and PSP game made (plus Minis' but who cares about those) so accessing the PSP mode in PSTV allows to play not only PSP games though also retro emulators (better to go with the US NES/SNES roms for superior performance).

It's awesome. :smiley:

shame about the memory card cost for them

I have a pstv already and bear in mind that only a subset of vita games work on the pstv. There is a network media player for the EU region but its not very compatible with files. Not available for download on US accounts. Not many vita cartridges work on the pstv and the cartridge socket is annoying to use as well. Of the vita cartridges I had (not many) only need for speed most wanted worked.

Sony have also stopped the hack that allows a greater range of games to work unless another new hack has sorted that.

Still a nice little device but a huge number of issues and limitations.

I basically bought mine as I had a load of vita games available thanks to the ps plus monthly games which motivated me as I wanted to play them.

You do understand that the speed of your internet doesn't have any effect on the local streaming speed throughout your home?

heated for the price, but only really useful for playstation owners. can't get kodi on it

Don't need one thanks, got an android M8S box. Only really gave this a look in case it was any kind of upgrade

Went for it, accidently bought two though. Took me five attempts to cancel one of the orders! There phones kept cutting me off!!

So tempted to buy one just to play my (compatible) Vita games on the big screen.

Powerlines can have massive burst speed, but they suffer from a lot of random lag(worse than WiFi actually). I used to run remoteplay over 600mbps powerline adapters, and while they were completely fine for internet, remoteplay would break up or lose quality all the time. Only switching to actual ethernet cables everywhere resolved the issue.

I would like to hear a review from someone that has:

A PS4 connected directly to gigabit capable hardware via a cable
and;
A PSTV connected directly to gigabit capable hardware, on the same network, via a cable

Could you reflash the device with something like Cyanogenmod?

do tell more...............

Theres a internet/stream setting you need to change on the pstv to resolve the lag issue

would this be ok for being able to keep ps4 downstairs and then being abke to just bring controller to bed and play ps4 games upstairs? like a 2nd ps4?

Best Buy are selling these for $20 in the US:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-ps-tv-hardware-vte1001-multi/6731028.p?id=1219238018522&skuId=6731028&cmp=RMX&srccode=cii_10043468&cpncode=39-111822846-2&ref=25&loc=SHZ

So, if Sony have a warehouse full of PSTVs in Europe the price could keep on tumbling.

76mbps isn't fast, you need a gigabit switch.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1116430

Not email. The method. You can work around the lack of physical buttons on ds4 touch pad.

Use these with it :smiley:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/trendnet-tpl-406e2k-500-mbps-nano-powerline-ethernet-adapter-twin-pack-11-99-lightning-2330168

Your Internet connection has nothing to do with how well the pstv works. Its to do with how the ps4 multilayer works. The pstv is all down to your WiFi router transfer speeds and most are the same nowadays. Not taking interference into account. To get the best possible experience with this make sure your hard wired in rather than WiFi connection (powerline adapters are fine)

so how is this useful to a novice like me? i own a vita ,ps3 and ps4...what does this actually do? and why has it been panned???....cheers

cold cant get xbox 1 to run on it....lol

How does e-mail help you with a controller not having enough buttons?

has this got the catch up services like what the ps3/ps4 provides? ive got a ps3 which is just used as a media player(catch up services like iplayer/C4 etc) so wouldn't mind buying this if it does have the catch up services.

You can get around this limitation quite easily with the email trick.

I have a psp but not a vita. does it pkay games that I've purchased using ps plus on it?

Watch Dogs worked great remote playing from my PS4 to my Vita. My understanding is the PS TV is fundamentally a striped down Vita in a box. But I do have good (32mb) fibre internet.

I hope amazon price match but there is no 'tell us about a lower price' button on the page :disappointed:

Almost at the price I'm looking for, I want one for £20, or I will pay more with a controller.

Yup, may or may not being able to play all the games though. Some of them have controls you can't use with a normal pad, if I understand correctly.

fair point - randomly googled and found this

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1116430

nice find op, heat