£130 per year according to the sites that come back when I ask Google.

Clearly a terrible car - not!

What Car - Best Small SUV 2015!

https://awards.whatcar.com/smallsuv/range-rover-evoque

I'm quite keen on trying out a Cougar but just for one night, can't commit to 2 years.

That won't be a problem on this 2WD model. :stuck_out_tongue:

That's wasted on him, you know...

8k Miles per year, £4k per year, works out to 50p per mile - you could use a taxi instead.

I am in the Motor Sales industry as well, 33 years. I even ran my own dealership twice.
Maserati are generally pits of endless pain...infact i would say they are only good for blowing your cash very quickly. A total impulse purchase in every sense. Don't get me wrong, they are a thing of beauty, the first time i turned one over and heard that ROAR......WOW! .......But would i spend real money on one..NO!
The BMW Z8, is a prime example of even the big boys can push a dog out of the door.
The Evoque is a similar money pit, the servicing is horrendous, the engines are a bit behind the times, ( yes i include the "NEW" ingenium as well). It may be worth getting a lease one, if you have a necessity to park it on your suburban drive for the neighbours to look at, but would i buy one with real money?..er NO!

I'm in the industry idiot! Have been for over 20 years! What miss information have I posted eh? 1 model that's nearly 40 years old, how many owners has Maserati gone through since eh? What about all the tosh they have put out, where's the value in them eh? What's a 3200GT worth compared to other Luxury GT's? They are worth less than an equivalent year and mileage Boxter ffs.....

Btw, how much is a BMW Z8 worth these days?...

Again clueless!

Any large cars loses money, look at M5 Prices, Look at XK8 prices (5k for a 1998 car). Look at any large NA engined car and it will lose value and then good examples will appreciate in price. 2 years ago you could but a Ferrari 360 for 30k, it is only because people are turning to cars as an investment that prices are rising. It is a better option to put money into cars than in savings and that has helped the market.

Ok so to put your theory to test let's look now at 1967 Ghibli prices which are at £250k! Yeah that's depreciation right there, whilst they won't be expensive as Ferrari's because the sheep don't follow them they are a true icon of design and quality.

I've been in the car industry for years, you are preaching to the wrong fella about all this so quit while you are losing now. You've already been picked up in this thread for mis-information so why continue to dig a deeper hole?

On what planet is an Evoque a re-badged Freelander ?

The 16MY Evoque has a brand new class leading Ingenium engine, a 9 speed auto, a completely different bodyshell, different suspension parts, completely different interior, wheels and exterior panels. They don't even share the architecture with the Freelander being based on an old Rover architecture.

The Evoque is in the D8 family which is based on the Ford EUCD platform which consists of cars like the S Max, Galaxy, Mondeo, Freelander 2, Volvo V70 and Discovery Sport.

It is no way related to the Freelander.

It is about as accurate as saying a 911 was a re-badged VW Beetle.

WRONG!...THEY SHARE THE SAME PLATFORM FROM DAY ONE CONCEPTION.PLEASE DO SOME VALID RESEARCH INSTEAD OF BEING A SHEEP.

Yeah cold hard facts are what the clueless know....

OK then clever clogs, what makes a Maserati lose thousands and can be bought for peanuts after a decade then? Guess my Ferrari factory trained mechanic mate must have been listening down the pub too instead of having to fix em eh....

You obviously know as about fashion as you do cars too fella, M's Posh owns quite a successful fashion company these days and theres nothing wrong with using consultants in business especially when you're aiming a car to please the wealthier clients who would know this.

Stick to bigging up ya Motobility scooter somewhere else, you ain't fooling anyone here....

With comments like that it shows you how clueless you really are. A woman's car special with input from Victoria Beckham just shows what sort of person will go and buy one.

Pub talk about reliability of Maserati's too, or listening to Clarkson who knows feck all about motors. I've owned high end Porsche's. M cars but nothing gives you the buzz of owning a trident. I'll let you go and enjoy your little Chelsea Tractor lol

Porsche Macan, a retooled Audi Q5?.....

Maserati's what?

Jeez £43k on an Evoque is serious money. I'd just buy an xdrive 335d or something similar like an Audi S4 and have an all weather weapon with more room and another £10k in my pocket.

That said I do really like the new Disco Sport, it's like a grown up version of the Evoque. Shame they've all got pretty dated engines.

Haha jealousy is showing its green head again I see. We have just taken delivery of the new HSE Dynamic (so £43000 before extras) and its a lovely car. I do see a lot of people who instantly S**T on any deal on anything expensive on here. We dont buy a Dacia because we can afford not to. Same as I don't shop in Primark.
RR make excellent cars. They are brilliant in ice and snow, and mud and flooded country roads & both me & the wife HAVE to work no matter the weather. I cant just say "sorry there is 2ft of snow I cant come in". Nor can the wife. So 4x4 vital for us. This is perfect and its a reasonable deal. 3 year residual is 69.5% generally (the PCP deal will give you about 60% as a balloon payment, so leaving ~8% equity at 3 years.So on this car £12000 for THREE years would be the cost of PCP (give or take) so this is neither a bargain, nor a rip off. Personally I would buy on PCP with this car.

In the UK, you are probably right - we are a nation of 'badge idiots'. £ for £ though on a new car, I don't think Porsche can get anywhere near the GT-R.

I don't think they can be classed as chavvy, but I do appreciate that Porsche buyers would rather pay more for an inferior car, the same is true right across the marketplace really.

Nah. Put if this way, if you had the money to spend on a GTR then you have the money to spend on a Porsche and Nissan's problem is people who can actually afford one and are spending their own money will buy something that isn't chavvy and retains its value incredibly well.

I'm pretty sure none of the ones you mention are 'supercars', but what about 'the Daddy';

Although I kind of know what you mean, I think you'd be surprised at how many do - same with Kuga, Sportage etc., everyone has a 'thing' for SUV's...I think they're all crap in this segment TBH, some of the bigger ones are pretty good.

Rubbish or not, nobody dreams of one day owning a Qashqai!....

Aspirational or not, they're still [email protected]

So you haven't had any problems, yet...no they don't, they have come last 12 years running in all of the recognised reliability surveys...the right Toyotas and Nissans will get you through the snow and mud as good, probably better, and I dare say other brands offer suitable cars too.

You have gone for the the Evoque because you think it makes you look the part, and you will be stranded in the dry soon enough, let alone the snow and mud.

Call that jealousy if you like, but I can say with all sincerity that every time I see one of these (or many other so-called 'premium' (but junk) cars) I always think 'awww, if only money could by common sense and taste'.

Nissan provide more Qashqua's to motobility than they sell to private customers and businesses so yes its a motobility special fella. And sorry to burst your bubble but Land Rover are aspirational products, something's that all Nissan's lack even the GTR.

Btw bragging about owning a couple of Maserati's is nothing to be proud of either, buckets of nothing but expensive trouble hence why they go for peanuts 2nd hand compared to their competition!

yup !

Ditto waiting on the new one. Cayman is a no go. I HAVE to have 4WD. Im a GP and had to do a home visit on Monday up a track made entirely of leaves and 3-4 inches of soft mud. Needed a run up in the end. lol.
F-Type same problem. Limited re 4wd supercars!

:smiley: TTS is superb car too, and you could always apply a stage 1 map which will push it close to RS performance as standard. Mapped our RS to Stage 1, and difference is incredible - 410bhp, and acceleration on par with an R8 V10. Well worth it for < £1k.

I've not had to worry about back seats LOL (yet!) - but having had the RS approaching 6 years now - starting to get itchy feet. Problem is - for the performance - and styling - there is nothing really out there to replace it with. I took a Jag F-Type V6S out - but that's mid £60k, and still not as quick as the RS, although styling on a par. The only car I would exchange it for right now is the Cayman GT4 - but Porsche have tied up the market with only enough cars for Elite Porsche owners.

So......I have decided to hold out and wait to see what the new TTRS is going to be like :smiley: Just wish they would release some news on it!

Motobility special? I think you are the deluded one. Thinking that a RR Evoque is the pinnacle of luxury! lol I own a couple of Maserati's so I don't need you to tell me what luxury is. The fact of the matter is that the RR Evoque is just so flawed it is not real. As an everyday car and in its class the QQ is the BEST.

You have excellent taste, our second car is a TTS, i am very jealous of your RS. Its what I really wanted but I couldn't justify another £10k for the extra power. Thinking it will go in for an RS5 next year. Or Something less sensible like a Quattroporte S. What would you swap the TTRS for if you needed proper back seats and more space out of interest?

I've been running one of these (albeit a 4x4 'HSE Lux') for the last two years and it's been brilliant - just love it. Great mile-muncher but not so big that it's unwieldy around town or tricky to park. Loaded with toys (though most of them don't get used very often). Mine is averaging around 35mpg with largely urban use and will do nearer 40mpg on a motorway run. New one with Ingenium diesel should be way more economical.

Comparing with QQ is pointless - they're pretty good too (latest one) but a completely different class of vehicle.

Indeed - completely agree - but it works both ways too. Just to re-enforce the hairdresser claim about owners of this car - my other car is an Audi TTRS (who was it slating Audi earlier? tut tut).....so hairdresser car mark 2. Actualy I work in IT, and I a real mans car like a BMW M3 would be left in the dust from the TTRS performance - but anyway - I am digressing......

The TTRS Parkers price for my model and age private sale is cira £18k. Try finding one - look on autotraders - there are none, not at that price - and I know from others they are fetching closer to £22k-£24k for the same model.

All about supply and demand - and the TTRS was built in small numbers. The Evoque is everywhere, so it doesn't surprise me if they are actually selling below Parkers. Still - demand seems strong though - so this should help residuals.

PS. My remark about the rear diff was not to compare my model version to this one - but to highlight that build quality has been good, and when comparing to my Audi - it has been outside of the garage far more. This may be surprising to some given LR nearly always finish bottom in surveys on reliability compared to Audi who are usually top 10, or above mid table.

On the topic of depreciation, and better investing in growth and using a lease - as you say - it really depends on your outlook, knowledge of where to invest, and level of risk you are prepared to take. Nothing to say you wont lose 10% or more on an investment - the higher the returns, typically the higher the risk.

That was the "crappy Ford" I had when I joined HUKD and as you can't change your username I am stuck with it - it was nearly new with only 25k miles on it when I sold it but it cost me £1800 in known Ford issues (ABS module, oil diaphragm, worn wishbone bushes destroying tyres etc etc), it was fast and fun but too unreliable - every other month something broke on it.

So I swapped it for a 1 series BMW and have now had 4 years of pleasurable motoring without any issues!! I also have a 3 series which we've had from new, now on 60k miles and never missed a beat, cheap to run also.

why would I want one of these as I don't live in the country or sell drugs!

I'm quite keen on trying out a Cougar but just for one night, can't commit to 2 years.

As plenty of people have asked, yes, terrible build quality inside. You just feel like a nonce driving it.

Far better cars if you're after certain things, want tech/reliability/efficiency? Get a Qashqai. Want the looks and power? Go German.

You're trying to compare the Motobility special to a luxury brand?

Oh please give over....

You must have very deep pockets to run a 15 year old Range Rover....

No the fact it's a Lotus makes it a bad car instead....

I have had a new QQ for nearly 2 years now (1.5DCi) model and it is far from underpowered. It pulls well in all gears and returns me 50mpg combined. It is never going to be a hot hatch and neither is a 2WD RR EVoque!

QQ is by far the cheaper and better car to run.

Maybe because 95% of "4x4's" never go off road anyway so what's the point of 4 wheel drive for them?

So much ignorance crammed into just 6 lines!
Let's have a few links to those reviews.

Specs aversion. Darn predictive text

​class above an Audi or BMW. Need to go to specs aversion. Yeh panel fit is great, not

Does it come with a blindfold and tailgate magnet

Years of owning crappy fords, yet your name here is FOCUS ST...completely fell over laughing at you pal.

Well done, you found ANOTHER crud car, thanks for tuning in though.I will look out back for your point?

Why assume it's vanity? How about people buying decent brands for quality? I now have two German cars after years of owning crappy fords and French rot and will never swerve from a premium brand from now on, they are leagues ahead.

I would rather run a 15 year old premium brand than one of these cheap nasty things like Dacias. As soon as the low and mid range makes reach that level of quality I would only then consider those, nothing to do with vanity, all to do with quality.

Lotus elise 111r also has no boot space, a 'crud old engine' from a mid 2000 toyota, harsh ride, wind noise and expensive to service, but that doesn't make it a bad car - far from it, just not a car suitable for you.

do you get insurance when you lease a car?

Clearly a terrible car - not!

What Car - Best Small SUV 2015!

https://awards.whatcar.com/smallsuv/range-rover-evoque

Seems like a good deal if you like Evoques, until you realise this is the rock bottom SE trim without the cool body finishes. The HSE Dynamic is the one that looks sporty and generally awesome. This is the SE one and it just doesn't do it for me.

2 wheel driver vs 4 wheel doesn't both me because I wouldn't go offroad anyway, but the body styling needs to be right. I see thousands of Range Rover's in the car park at work (JLR) so perhaps I'm biased.

Are these the ones that come with the free spray tan and a lobotomy?

Bet they were scared.

Would be good if free insurance but I'm 2k a year insurance for these type of cars lol

cold. not 4x4. looks nice though

We looked at this or Qashqai and went for the Qashqai in the end. Great car.

What Car?

We have the SD4 - approx. £40k - and its now 4 years old. Parkers private sale price is approx. £25k - so 37.5% depreciation in 4 years is very good retention values. They are not being discounted, and still in high demand, hence good retention.

The lease is on the ED4 - which start at about £29k. Nearly £9k lease over 2 years doesn't sound very good to me. I would imagine it would lose to more than 20%-25% value in this time going by current retention - so about £6k-£7k. With the mileage limits thrown in - better off purchasing one imo.

As for remarks about it not being a good car - ours has been superb in four years of ownership. Only issue has been rear-diff. Real world MPG is no where near what is claimed though - more like mid 30s on SD4 vs claimed 50 average.

I don't have one and I don't want one. However, they are a top quality vehicle and I think that some of the negative comments on here are being made out of envy. Not a deal for an owner of a 10 year old Mondeo but a good deal none the less.

You won't get a delivery of these until March, I ordered one, 2 months later still not a confirmed delivery date. Told the lease company to shove it up there [email protected] and got,y deposit back

Been after one of these for a few months, seems about the going rate tbh. Still hottish though.

Are all cars 4x4 now?

wags car of choice. says it all really. what a horrible car

Silly question perhaps but why are all of these Diesel??

​​SE Tech is a much better spec. Currently looked at an Evoque for a family car but the boot was a little small and pretty dull to drive. Also considered a qashqai but the diesels are under powered for what I want from a car.

That makes sense if you're a "savings under the mattress" kind of person. I'd prefer to invest my £30k into something, let that grow / yield a return, and just rent a car with its term cost being a known quantity.

If you manage to net a return of 10% on your £30k you'll make £6300 over two years, then if you fork out to rent the car you're only effectively paying £100 per month. You can't own for that.

that still got you from A to B but probably saved you £4000+ a year in the bank.. I guess if you have nothing better in life to spend money on and travelling in an expensive car is important to you then great, just offering a comparison to those sucked in by vanity and modesty.

Perfect Snow Board Then

Suppose to be having very bad winter, this will be excellent in the SNOW !!!

Negative comments expected from jealous little people.

I know, but it's the category of car this falls into, so much nicer than an X3 etc....

Yes please tell?

Which engine do you have and what's the front visibility like? For example at junctions.

I love negotiating.....and that's what has frustrated me....no one will play ball, if I could get 5% I'd be delighted. I've tried the brokers too - that was even less!

Have you tried and been successful on this specific model or you were just assuming?

I have to say it is far from underpowered from having driven one for a year! Also it is a different price bracket so it depends on your priorities. Yes I have the new model with Tekna. It has 360 degree cameras, panoramic roof and all the sign recognition gizmos. Personally would recommend it.

The 1.6 DIG-T 163 bhp motor in the Qashqai is actually quite decent. You can't get it with a 4x4 drive unfortunately, only the 1.6dCi model has that option. Evoque is really fun to drive, best one is obviously 2.0Si Petrol(240bph) but then it's really,really silly money(Mercedes GLA AMG territory).

Don't understand why anyone would buy/lease one of these. I don't like normal Range Rovers but understand why a certain type would buy them. In the middle ground but end up as pointless, a bit like the big minis from the other angle.

Stops my kids from shoving their arms out the windows or f**king about with the electric windows so I see it as a plus. Yes its plastic, but its only £17k, you don't expect lexus LS quality

Not really as in reality. I was referring to the hideous orange thing in that picture and how ugly it is and that's why I mentioned I'd rather have one of those two other hideous cars rather than that roofless orange turd.

Really? A Cactus? The car that is literally so cheaply built having plastic everywhere on the inside wasn't enough so they had to put plastic on the outside as well? And probably the only production car in 2015 that doesn't have proper windows in the back, only a little flap, just like a van from 2001.

Not really free.

Hairdresser's car, end of.

p.s. real exotica - built by Scousers! :smiley:

Not too sure about this

Q:What's the difference between a Hedgehog and a Range Rover?

A: A Range Rover has all the pr*cks on the inside.

I'd still buy one anyway hehe :smiley:

Glad someone spotted that.

The guy hasnt even got the same car!

That won't be a problem on this 2WD model. :stuck_out_tongue:

Terrible, terrible cars.

You should be able to negotiate at least 5% off the list price of one these quite easily - if you've only managed £400 you're not trying hard enough. :wink:
If you don't like negotiating try getting a quote from someone like drivethedeal to make life a little easier.

you could buy a dacia stepway almost outright brand new for this type of money.. oh the price of modesty!!

This isn't a 4 x 4........... Its 2 wheel drive.

Bear in mind that it's the Ed4 engine, so front-wheel drive only. I personally wouldn't want to drive a land rover without an all wheel drive, but I have to admit the price is pretty good.

Parkers Guide reckons VED Band C, which is £30.

and how much is road tax?

You people bringing up the concept of free insurance aren't the brightest are you? :smiley:

Road tax is normally included for the duration of the lease.

Almost all of these deals will allow you to simply reduce or do away with the up front payment in return for a higher monthly rental of you prefer. The finance cost of that is also very very small in all the quotes I had, so could never see the point in paying anything up front.

Hi. I've just noticed a better offer if your interested. 10k miles and lower initial payment::

http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/land-rover/range-rover-evoque-4x4/range-rover-evoque-diesel-hatchback-20-ed4-se-5dr-2wd-50297687.

I've got a car from these at the minute and had no issues.