Lowest price yet. 4G Dual Sim-Free Smartphone. Windows 8.1 Upgradeable to Windows 10
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410, 1.2GHz Quad-Core, 64 Bit Architecture and Adreno 306 GPU
5.0" IPS Display, 8MP Autofocus Rear Camera with LED Flash
1GB RAM, 8GB Storage, MicroSD Slot up to 64GB
4G LTE Bands FDD: B3(1800)/B7(2600)/B20(800) TDD: B38(2600)/B40(2300)
4G Works on all UK networks
Top comments
chancooluk to coldo
23 Nov 1515#26
For an Android phone, yes, 1GB RAM and 8GB storage is not enough. However, the situation is completely different on Windows Phone.
Windows Phone runs very well with only 1GB RAM, it even runs well with only 512MB.
Also, 99% of apps in the Windows Store can be installed to the Micro SD card, with only a minor increase in app launch times if using a slower SD card. Stability of the apps installed to the SD card is not compromised in Windows Phone.
PhilK to imzy82
23 Nov 154#44
When I had one, Whatsapp played quite well, and my father in law uses one and he's happily using Whatsapp.
Fact is MOST of the apps you want ARE available, despite the twaddle from the anti Windows phone brigade.
pontprennau to jedijacobs
23 Nov 154#7
this works beautifully. one sim can use data and that sim sits in. 4g. the other sim sits in 2g. this has caused me some issues with a three payg sim which can only sit in 3g or 4g, luckily the bt mobile sim I have (ee) can sit on 2g. there is an app you can get that allows you to install some of the Lumia only apps. Yes I recommend this phone, it's not a 640 dual sim but it's also a lot cheaper:)
nickmorc
23 Nov 154#31
Windows is much easier to use than android which is normally bloated with junk. Don't start me on the amount of updates to the apps on android.
Having used all, pound for pound you will get a better phone on windows. Granted not all of the apps are there, but things like Facebook etc are.
You can easily move or store apps on the SD card, which does not always work that well on an android phone, even with the latest android software.
My son has a Vodafone Smart Ultra 6, lot of phone for the money, its just so annoying to use once you have tried windows.
Anyway each to their own and just my two pennys worth.
All comments (104)
FlappyPappy
23 Nov 151#1
Tempted, this any good?
Dryosh to FlappyPappy
23 Nov 153#3
Good phone but experience has taught me to never buy a windows phone unless it's a Lumia.
Baz417
23 Nov 153#2
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u664541
23 Nov 152#4
bought 2
jedijacobs
23 Nov 151#5
How does dual sim work?
I've got an orange sim and an O2 sim...
Any pointers on this being the best dual sim for the money or any others at all?
pontprennau to jedijacobs
23 Nov 154#7
this works beautifully. one sim can use data and that sim sits in. 4g. the other sim sits in 2g. this has caused me some issues with a three payg sim which can only sit in 3g or 4g, luckily the bt mobile sim I have (ee) can sit on 2g. there is an app you can get that allows you to install some of the Lumia only apps. Yes I recommend this phone, it's not a 640 dual sim but it's also a lot cheaper:)
potatokid
23 Nov 151#6
Been looking at this for hour or so, was going to get a cubot x15 (android) which retail's about same as this, but now this is reduced hmmmm. Personally not a fan on the window tile layout, read various reviews saying windows phones will become obsolete and dont support various apps etc etc. This one doesnt come with a actual plug to charge and just one screen protecter. Cubot has plug and 2 screen protecters. Tech wise I really havent got a clue what to look for, both say the cameras are not brill, but not sure which is the best? So confusing, buying for bf who has rubbish samsung young android and uses virgin pay as you go big talk sim (so calls deals only data extra cost per day) currently he doesnt us any apps or internet like me we are really dated with are mobile use just calls/texts/camera this is due to the fact are phones are rubbish so we don't ever bother. He would like iphone but way too expensive.
hcc27 to potatokid
23 Nov 15#50
I'd say make your choice based on the ecosystem he prefers (Android vs Windows).
The Windows App store has moved on in leaps and bounds from a few years back, almost all the main apps you'll see on Android or iOS are covered either natively or by 3rd partly apps. A glaring omission is a native YouTube app which has a lot to do with Google's attitude to MS, but there are very good 3rd party alternatives.Further, there's no Google Drive, Google Play Music, Google Chrome etc for Windows phone so if your bf uses these systems/ apps on Android he won't find any joy with a Windows phone. He can of course migrate to Outlook, OneDrive, Dropbox etc.
That's not very good, given that both iOS and Google were well entrenched in their userbase by the 2nd-3rd year. Many tech editors do admit that developer support for Windows Mobile is significantly behind that for iOS or Android; that's understandable, if you were a developer you'd want to target the largest market you can get for your app.
I'd say take your bf to a phone store, let him have a good play with a Windows Mobile phone, and ask him to make the decision. You can even order the Bluwin and return it to Amazon if he doesn't like it, being Amazon they'll of course take it back. The charging adaptor is really a non-entity, this phone should charge with any old microUSB charger you have at home.
Coffee100 to potatokid
23 Nov 15#68
This phone doesn't have a plug???? How do you charge it?!?!
BlackwellNik to potatokid
24 Nov 15#86
Cool story, braulein.
sam_of_london
23 Nov 15#8
No UK 800 band. Only Chinese TDD.
klemo to sam_of_london
23 Nov 15#9
It states in the specs it has FDD: B20(800)
shug119
23 Nov 15#10
Looks good for price
Cartoonhead
23 Nov 153#11
if only they did this in android :disappointed:
plumberman01 to Cartoonhead
23 Nov 15#14
can you tell me why android? am looking a phone for my son..hes 13. Does it need to be android?
smileypete to Cartoonhead
23 Nov 15#76
IF buying from Aliexpress is OK there's a couple of sellers doing a similar specced Android based Blackview BV2000 for £40:
However it's worth repeating that if running more than a few simple apps, a minimum of 2GB RAM may recommended... but such phones at this price will come before long.... :man:
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Opening post
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410, 1.2GHz Quad-Core, 64 Bit Architecture and Adreno 306 GPU
5.0" IPS Display, 8MP Autofocus Rear Camera with LED Flash
1GB RAM, 8GB Storage, MicroSD Slot up to 64GB
4G LTE Bands FDD: B3(1800)/B7(2600)/B20(800) TDD: B38(2600)/B40(2300)
4G Works on all UK networks
Top comments
Windows Phone runs very well with only 1GB RAM, it even runs well with only 512MB.
Also, 99% of apps in the Windows Store can be installed to the Micro SD card, with only a minor increase in app launch times if using a slower SD card. Stability of the apps installed to the SD card is not compromised in Windows Phone.
Fact is MOST of the apps you want ARE available, despite the twaddle from the anti Windows phone brigade.
Having used all, pound for pound you will get a better phone on windows. Granted not all of the apps are there, but things like Facebook etc are.
You can easily move or store apps on the SD card, which does not always work that well on an android phone, even with the latest android software.
My son has a Vodafone Smart Ultra 6, lot of phone for the money, its just so annoying to use once you have tried windows.
Anyway each to their own and just my two pennys worth.
All comments (104)
I've got an orange sim and an O2 sim...
Any pointers on this being the best dual sim for the money or any others at all?
The Windows App store has moved on in leaps and bounds from a few years back, almost all the main apps you'll see on Android or iOS are covered either natively or by 3rd partly apps. A glaring omission is a native YouTube app which has a lot to do with Google's attitude to MS, but there are very good 3rd party alternatives.Further, there's no Google Drive, Google Play Music, Google Chrome etc for Windows phone so if your bf uses these systems/ apps on Android he won't find any joy with a Windows phone. He can of course migrate to Outlook, OneDrive, Dropbox etc.
The problem with the Windows Mobile ecosystem is that they it was very late to the party. Looking to the future, pundits predict Windows Phones to be having around a 4% share of the smartphone market by 2019: http://www.winbeta.org/news/idc-predicting-windows-phone-with-3-6-market-share-in-2019
That's not very good, given that both iOS and Google were well entrenched in their userbase by the 2nd-3rd year. Many tech editors do admit that developer support for Windows Mobile is significantly behind that for iOS or Android; that's understandable, if you were a developer you'd want to target the largest market you can get for your app.
I'd say take your bf to a phone store, let him have a good play with a Windows Mobile phone, and ask him to make the decision. You can even order the Bluwin and return it to Amazon if he doesn't like it, being Amazon they'll of course take it back. The charging adaptor is really a non-entity, this phone should charge with any old microUSB charger you have at home.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Blackview-BV2000-5-0-Android-5-1-WCDMA-Phone-MTK6735-Ocata-core-1-0GHz-1G/32513702932.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-Blackview-BV2000-Smartphone-MTK6735-Octa-core-1280-720-HD-IPS-Android-5-1-5-0/1686011_32513650736.html
However it's worth repeating that if running more than a few simple apps, a minimum of 2GB RAM may recommended... but such phones at this price will come before long.... :man: