£400 for a clothes horse?

Diet is far more important for weight loss than exercise

Course you can. But some people might be too self conscious to run in public, and others may have an injury that prevents them from running outside.

Hot from me...

You could also argue you're less likely to get off the sofa and go to the gym. Hot from me.

Model number: 1913CAI.
Speed 18kph.
Fixed 12% elevation.
Variable 12 levels% elevation.
12 levels of incline.
3 user programmes.
Console feedback including: speed, distance, calorie, time and pulse.
Bluetooth connectivity.
1.5hp continuous motor size.
2.25hp peak motor size.
Maximum user weight 110kg (17st 5lb).
Folds for storage.
Hand grip pulse sensor.
Mains powered.
Running surface size L130, W41cm.
Programmes include: 36 pre-set and 1 manual.
5 display functions.
Programmable incline.
Auto stop safety system.

Diet is far more important for weight loss than exercise

Heat just for bluetooth

Thats really good value heat added

£400 for a clothes horse?

You can walk and run outside, to keep fit.

You could join a gym for a a whole year and have access to a vast variety of equipment for the same price, if it's at home your less likely to put the effort in.

comments should be about the deal, not the point of the product. A deal is in the eye of the beholder :wink:

This look very very much like my Reebok treadmil. Actually looks virtually identical except for the display panel.

Is this a good quality product or a £299 product given an inflated RRP of £999 and 'reduced' to £399?
I've heard of Technogym, LA fitness etc but not Everlasting, reminds me of Lonsdale, is it a Sports Direct own brand?

I imagine a lightly used Nordic Track could be picked up for the same price on ebay. No way an 'Everlast' branded electrical product is worth £400 let alone £1000!

I bought a treadmill a couple of years ago and it's the best thing I did. It's great to get people started, build up fitness and then run outside. Although your electric bill will increase ....substantially...

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why fight it?

how can you have an injury where you can't run outside? is there a different technique for indoor running?????

Quute why people are banging on about doing alternative methods of exercise is beyond me. This isn't a fitness forum. There are plenty of reasons people may prefer treadmill running to running outdoors. I.e. I find the continuity and consistency in speed incline and time better for pushing progress.

Perfect for shedding a few pounds!!!!

If Relievo (the poster) wants to lose weight and they think this is a good deal, then why shouldn't they buy it. After all this forum is about deals isn't it? not advice on whether they need to diet if anyone else can find it cheaper post it.

I love running and do 1600/1800 miles a year. Just bear in mind, general running is not the best as a fat burner on it's own if that's what your after.

Will this enable me to eat a can of condensed milk on a Sunday evening but maintain a beach physique?

looks cheaply made. rather Reebok ZR10 Treadmill.

Running is excellent for cardio fitness, but there's better methods for actual fat burning such as HIIT cardio (YouTube). But at the end of the day it all comes down to what suits you the most and you enjoy.

I've been running for years. Last year I thought I tweaked my knee, and found out that I've actually got ITBS, and can no longer run outside for more than 10 minutes before experiencing excruciating pain. But I can use a treadmill without injury. A treadmill will never be as good as actually going outside, and if I could I'd be out there pounding the streets every day. A treadmill means I can at least keep my cardio going, and also rehab the ITBS.

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Good advice in the main but it's not true that diet isn't more important than exercise. Weight loss is VERY simple, it's ensuring net calorie loss. As such, even intensive training is only going to lose you 600-800 calories per day - the same amount as is in 3 lattes.

Dieting (as in having a healthy diet) absolutely works long term. Fad or short term diets don't work. It's got to be a lifestyle change not a time bound/target weight diet.

Diet is the most important thing to get right for weight loss, exercise is a secondary (but important) factor.

TBH Most people would quit within the year (so saves money!) or realise the treadmill is pointless compared to the other gym equipment available.

Life you must be joking everything fails in the end even humans, but a £399 mechanical electrical gym device come on.

good if you like **** that breaks after a month.

​It depends on how often you use it. The most I've added on is £70 a quarter which is a lot of money for some people and not for others... that was a lot of use though. I look at it this way, if it's less than or equal to a gym membership then I'm happy. I would never be motivated enough to go to gym whereas the treadmill at home is easy, I just hop on 30 minutes before I go for a shower in the morning :smiley:.

Worth noting my treadmill is an Everlast EV9000. Don't know how much they were brand new but I bought it secondhand for £150 three years ago and it's only fault is the lcd screen which sometimes plays up when I'm running and changing between time, current speed and distance. I also don't know whether more expensive machines maybe have a better energy rating?

Everlast= sports direct = mike Ashley.

If this is retailing at £400 there is still a hefty profit for Ashley. He never sells at a loss. So just think about the quality of the product.

Not sure I'd trust the brand, stick to proform, nordic track etc

Had a ProForm that I paid 589 for about 7 years ago and it's still going strong, I use it for HIIT and I'm shredded.

Buy a bike instead and take up cycling. :smiley: Minimal impact compared to running and you can use it to go to the shops too. :-) Wouldn't want to take this thing with me to the shops.

People hate treadmills but I got one in Jan (Reebok ZR8) from eBay and it's been the best thing I've ever done fitness wise. I can put in serious mileage now without my shins blowing up ( had to stop in Nov last year after diong the 70km a week Strava challenge).

It's just a tool. Can be **** or amazing depending on what you do with it. Best thing for me is that I've broken through some barriers as it forces you to keep your legs moving. Anyone can do a short sprint as fast as they can, but to train your legs to speed up over longer distances ain't easy. I'm using the GIPIS app atm. Love it.

Also, anyone thinking that treadmill is easier has been fluffing it. Always set it to 2 or 3% incline. The indoors temperature makes runs much harder that outside. I actually find my outdoors sessions breezy in comparison now.

End the day, you just can't beat cycling. Way more fun, and you go much faster. Great sense of freedom even if you're riding through the city.

Indoor trainers are available now that are both good quality and affordable, so your bike can be your outdoors exploration machine, crit beast, and indoor trainer. Just pick up some Sufferfest vids and maybe Zwift to keep you entertained while you spin to win.

I'm a big fan of the static bikes too as you can really increase your fitness on them I find, especially interval training. Definitely always a place for indoor machines, where everything's a bit more controlled but you can't beat a nice bike ride on a cool summers day. :smiley:

Thank you, it's bearable, but way more than I was expecting. The plan is to use mine for an hour a day, but, realistically, probably will be 30 mins on average. I had done a quick online search a few years back when I was first thinking of getting one that seemed to suggest they were only like 10 or 20p a day in electricity! So, bit of a difference. Honestly though, I have no idea how you calculate how much electricity something uses, so, I guess, it will cost what it costs (but I do hope it doesn't cost as much as yours does!). Mine was a much cheaper model than this, so I am hoping that means it isn't as higher powered, and thus not as much electricity. I agree though, I would never be motivated to go to a gym, and hate going out walking on my own, so a treadmill is ideal for me too.

Sorry everyone but I was not saying diet is not important but exercising without changing your diet will change your metabolism and if you consume the same amount as before but with an increased metabolism you can loose weight. You can easily lose weight just by exercising if you are not drastically over weight already but living like a Zombie (I speak from experience as I am 6ft 3 and was 16.5stone and then I started running last year and got down to 13.10 stone WITHOUT changing my diet!). I bought a treadmill as well at Christmas as I can't exercise in the winter with my asthma and I don't enjoy the cold as I get ill! This has helped my keep me fitness levels up and now I am running 10k in 50 mins and use 1000 calories so again that shows the power of running! However I would not start running over 10k twice a week as it can do damage to your knees if you start running longer distances too frequently. So I agree with why you want to buy a treadmill and I really hope you can achieve your goals and this helps you and anyone who wants to try running!

Yeah when it's 5 packs of crisps, 2 toffee crisps n they celebrate when the eat something with zero sins .........I work with women and have for a decade. Diet fads, if you can't conquer what your eating this is going to be nothing but a clothes rail.

Not read all the comments but its so annoying when people say 'just go for a run'.

Being in for the kids is important.... If you have kids in bed you cant just go for a run... Just saying.

Bought the treadmill... Good deal

I brought one from Argos a year ago for my home gym and is brilliant when its too cold or not ideal weather outside, Just bear in mind there is a bit of maintenance involved to keep them running well but its all pretty straight forward, pretty decent price here for machine with good spec :smiley: Heat from me

I bought this machine from Homebase in May (for £350 as while same price then, they were running a 20% off everything for May Day) after a cheaper second hand one I bought broke down and can't complain. It is sturdy and feels more like a gym treadmill, can take a lot of weight and can get to speeds a lot of the cheap ones can't (i will never run faster than 18km/h at long distances). Bluetooth is an added bonus but dont expect much, while the run on earth app works well and is good for novelty value the other app they provide is flaky at best with my phone never getting past the connecting screen (had more success with my daughters ipad) and those things that look like speakers on the front...arent so no bluetooth music (although your phone in the bottle holder gives off a good sound). Has developed a slight creak when running but otherwise I can't fault it and me and my daughter have been running on it near daily.

Got a treadmill second hand for like £70 on ebay. Goes up to like 10mph. Inclines. No bluetooth.

The amazing thing? Same results for a lot less.

Same price at homebase, not really hot

I've had my proform treadmill for 10 years, it's fantastic, I paid about £400, watch out for the size of running surface, seems pretty small to me looking at the specs

Same price elsewhere?
Gotta love this site.

It's a lease deal?
Certainly cold.
It's an unbranded 55" TV but only £299.00?
Must be hot hot hot!!
Running machine was £999.00 but now £399.00
SCORCHIO!!!!!

hahaha!

You need rest days in between, especially if you are starting out! This is when your body will be having a break to build muscle so you are stronger for your next session.
NHS have a podcast you can follow called couch to 5k. Time flies following the sessions.

Thank you, I will check those out. But don't worry, I'm not going to be doing any running, brisk walking, that's all.

True, but is this one actually any good? I've always associated Everlast with Sports Direct, so I've questioning the £1000 RRP on this. Argos are very good at conning people into thinking they're getting a good deal, when they're not really.

*IBS is a condition not an injury but I get your point.
Ive got a road bike, dislocated my knee when younger, 3 ops later and it's knackered at the ripe old age of 28. Diagnosed with osteoarthritis so running is a big no no, cycling is so much better anyway. non impact and it can be soooo **** hard! I'd personally never run inside though, how dull and boring.... zzzzzzz

The price of this is the equivalent to 23 months membership at my gym. I know which I'd prefer.

What you eat counts for around 60-70% of being healthy, you can eat certain foods that help burn fat. The exercise just boosts the rest.

personally I would spend the extra 50 quid and get this one. http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/3359291.htm

I would not recommend buying any heavy gym equipment from Argos i bought a Reebok treadmill last year for my daughter after 5 months the frame snapped reebok engineer came out and diagnosed it as frame failure.. I rang up argos who offered me a replacement so i arranged delivery and pickup on same date..
Now argos do not use there argos delivery for these heavy machines due to weight and injuries caused by the heavy weight and the amount problems this was causing them they use a company called expert logistics now when they came out to deliver they refused to collect saying no room on lorry so i rang up n rearranged collection only for 2nd collection team refusing saying it needs to be dismantled and flat packed i contacted argos and got told the same even though id advised the lady i had not saved the big box live in a small house once machine was set n tested i disposed of the box for re-cycling and then got told un pack the new machine and pack old one in. I explained i had no floor space to do so. To which i was told i would have to manage some how by putting the old machine on it side etc. i then went on to explain id had surgery and health issues and no one to help lift the machine except the kids and an elderly father. Was advised ask a neighbour or anyone i explained i was told by reebok not to touch machine it was dangerous got told if i didnt return dismantled n flat packed in a box i would be charged for both machines
So following this advise i dismantled machine n moved it on to it side n some how it sprung open crushing my index finger kids called paramedics and asked eledery neighbour who was home luckly he managed to dismantle the machine to let my finger out. Got taken to hospital had surgery on my finger left with 22 stitches a torn tendon damaged blood vessel and digital nerve loss of sensation in part of my finger and 8 months on still having physio and still problems using and bending my finger have got a apt with hand trauma surgery to decide if further surgery should be an option..
Action taken both machines returned complained to Argos who aplogised and refused to take blame saying i didnt injure my finger whilst dismanlting the machine but moving it hang on but it still the same process

Excellent price for the spec... so so tempted for the home gym project I'm contemplating.

Per Q&As on the site: if you cant play music through it then what is the "blue-tooth" bit for? Seems a bit redundant... unless its for a BT HRM strap instead of the usual Polar compatibility?

If you excercise you will definitely want to eat well.
If you dont excercise you won't always eat well.

Only those who excercise know how punishing it can be. So they are less inclined to make it hard on themselves by eating badly.

I already lost a lot of weight and got into shape by eating right, pushups, and going on long walks across the cliff-tops, a few times a week.

Now I've moved to the city, put on a little podge, the walks are not as inspiring, and when the weather is poop, I'd prefer to have something like a treadmill, set it to a high incline and watch netflix! :sunglasses:

I thought this might be a nice compromise. I've never heard of Nordic, and I didn't know Everlast was a Sports Direct Brand, but they were going long before SP was even a thing -- wasn't Everlast a respectable boxing equipment brand at one time?

Fun Fact: you can hook this up to google maps and walk around on street view, PMSL! :stuck_out_tongue:

Get an exercise bike. They are cheaper, better on your joints and need little to no maintenance (treadmills require regular servicing)

Absolutely perfect reasoning (mathematically), God Bless you take care.

I have read some very unfair - uneducated reviews, a treadmill is worth as much as one needs one and diets are alright if they work. 95% of people who diet alone fail within three months because of the bodies protection, once the brain realises it is not getting the same amount of fat and calories it stops lecting being released a fat burning hormone, your body then starts storing fats and using food as your body needs it, so you start to put weight on and losing weight slows down.

Exercise uses to the fats and calories which the brain excepts so diet with exercise is far more effective then without, with exercise its not about dieting but learning to eat more healthy. Withing the last year I have lost four stone 2 pound and 50% of that is down to the treadmill, in the past I have dieted and exercised unwisely and lost a couple of stone to later on put it back on +. I am not saying changing your lifestyle is going to be easy and every individual is different, I am 52 and top speed I have reached on the treadmill is 9 kph a fast walking pace, but it as been effective as I get a good sweat on, other people may reach higher or lower but if it is working that is only what matters.

I started very slow in my training as I weighed 22 stone I am now 17 stone 12lb withing 11 months, 50% I say is down to the treadmill the other 50% is down to my other exercising and eating healthier. If you do train you have got to eat calories to burn calories and fats to burn fats, but there is fats you can eat naturally and fats you can't, you get a lamb chop there is about 20% fat in the meat so cutting the outer fat off is wise making the chop healthier and it is healthier eating two chops this way then one. Eating healthier will be more expensive but effective, to diet without exercise is like eating poorly with exercise it isn't healthy, Fat people are not the only ones who encounter health problems, the treadmill is a good way of losing weight. I have just ordered this Everlast XV10 and I am sure it will do as my old treadmill did, I can't and will not say what is best for another only share my facts with you and what as worked for me, Mike