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 SEAT TOLEDO 1.0 TSI 110 Xcellence 5dr £12995 @ SEAT Warrington
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SEAT TOLEDO 1.0 TSI 110 Xcellence 5dr £12995 @ SEAT Warrington

£12995 Seat8 Oct 17
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Steve1205
7 Oct 17
A brand new good reliable family size car, with top of the range spec for the model. 17" alloys, air con, multimedia, full LED headlights, front and rear parking sensors, 6 speed gearbox and metallic paint and a big boot for the luggage.
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rehydrated
7 Oct 17 #1
They offering scrappage on this also?
Ralph888 to rehydrated
7 Oct 17 #3
This a cash price for the car. It does not comply with any other offer or vouchers.
Steve1205 to rehydrated
7 Oct 17 #4
I don't think they are on this offer.
sixfingers
7 Oct 17 #2
Looks like you get a lot of car for the money.
M_z
7 Oct 17 #5
Does look a lot of car for the money!
kris1234
7 Oct 17 #6
Westgate seat £1000 cheaper black brand new.
Steve1205 to kris1234
7 Oct 17 #8
I don't think they have any left.
kingp1n
7 Oct 17 #7
1 litre? You put your whole family in there(4 members) the car will just about move
g8spur to kingp1n
7 Oct 17 #9
Modern engines make 1.0l engines move pretty well tbh. Not good if you fancy a drag off the lights against the local boy racers granted.
.MUFC. to kingp1n
7 Oct 17 #11
Don't talk nonsense, this isn't 1963. You would probably be quite surprised with the power and performance. Probably close to 1.6 performance wise. Ok no Ferrari or V6 performance but more than you would think.
collectorcol to .MUFC.
7 Oct 17 #13
So this 1.0 engine has the power & performance of a 1.6?...

‌ :thumbsup:
.MUFC. to collectorcol
7 Oct 17 #14
Check out the specs ;). My point is a 1.0 turbo today is much better than what people might think. No it won't match the torque of a diesel but will give similar performance as a typical 1.6 from a decade ago might. I drove a 1.0 Civic the other day, felt every bit like a 1.6. Don't knock them until you've drove them. Similar to Ford's ecoboost I'd imagine. I've seen them with over 150k on and they still pull well.
fossman to .MUFC.
7 Oct 17 #16
​I have the same 1.0 engine in my Seat Ateca which is a bigger car, no problems pulling out at junctions or getting up to 70mph on dual carriageways.

It averages 50mpg on my 26 mile round trip to work everyday.
.MUFC. to fossman
7 Oct 17 #21
I don't doubt you, "Small petrol" /hybrids/Electric are the future. Diesel has had it's day.
fishmaster to .MUFC.
8 Oct 17 #32
It's good people are turning against diesel, however there isn't a modern day alternative fuel to diesel for long journeys yet. If you're drive high mileage diesel reigns supreme.
118luke to fishmaster
8 Oct 17 #35
Its unfortunate that the death to diesels is being driven by high profile media campaigns and poorly educated climate protesters. I'm convinced someone high up (Rupert Murdoch or James Harding is my guess) is being paid a lot of money to get people into petrols rather than diesels.

Its important people aren't conned into the new-gen "cleaner" petrol idea. Especially when you consider the fact that the new GDI Petrols (like the one this car uses) are actually worse for the environment than an old diesel. Doubly so when those who are wanting to be green, go ahead and scrap a perfectly serviceable diesel for a new petrol (the amount of environmental damage to build a new car is more than the car will do in its entire lifetime)
Its a huge con, and by the time it becomes widespread knowledge it will be far too late.
.MUFC. to fishmaster
8 Oct 17 #40
I agree atm, Sadly the emission control systems have restrained the performance and reliability of them though. DPF is the worst invention ever. It supposedly collects most of the nasty Nox emissions and burns them off whenever it's inconvenient in my case lol. It doesn't really save the environment, just supposedly keeps the emissions away from the towns. Where I live traffic flows relatively freely so my car often chooses to regenerate when I'm about to finish my journey!, Not really far away from the town but not inner city either. Frustrating but I make sure it completes the regeneration before I switch my engine off to avoid problems in the future.

If you're doing lots of stop/start town driving then something like this will be much better than a diesel and potentially get better economy too as diesels need to warm up first before they achieve optimum economy.
Besford to .MUFC.
8 Oct 17 #47
DPF doesn't 'collect' NOx - it catches much of the micro sooty particles (Diesel Particulate Filter).
.MUFC. to Besford
9 Oct 17 #48
That's what I meant ;).
KentishLad to kingp1n
7 Oct 17 #18
It has a Turbo.
kingp1n to KentishLad
8 Oct 17 #24
Turbos ain't that good on 1 litre engines...
paulandpam1 to kingp1n
8 Oct 17 #30
If you had actually tried driving one you wouldn't be making comments like this.
Ralph888
7 Oct 17 #10
All sold now:(
rich_1986
7 Oct 17 #12
A car this size should not have a 1.0l engine.

I get modern 1.0L are better than they use to be etc etc, but a car that weighs in close to 1500kg or 1.5 ton (not including any driver, passengers, lugging or a full tank of petrol) will be thrashed to get it moving comfortably and well.

Bhp means nowt when it has no torque, and your expecting the front wheels to pull the lot by themselves.

I get driving economically, but that doesn’t mean get the smallest engine in the range, because all those mpg figures and emissions savings will diminish as soon as you put the accelerator down.
.MUFC. to rich_1986
7 Oct 17 #22
You would think that, however they're turbo charged. Providing they're serviced correctly they should be fine and like I've said I've seen them with 150k on them and they still pull well. Technology has allowed them to use better materials and soundproofing. Put your foot down in any car and the economy will diminish. Small petrol engines really are a viable alternative to dirty diesels. Especially if you're driving around town alot.
rich_1986 to .MUFC.
7 Oct 17 #23
My point being that a tiny engine like this (turbocharged or supercharged in some cases) are overworked in cars this big. Should have clarified that putting your foot down I meant acceleration full stop. I have a diesel, I enjoy the drive they give with good torque and power, but petrol engines of the same size are now environmentally cleaner aswell as full of decent torque and power to move a 1500kg or heavier car. I am yet to drive or read about a car of this size be a worthwhile consideration or compromise with an engine this small. Its false economy.
.MUFC. to rich_1986
8 Oct 17 #27
They can take the abuse, they're designed that way. The turbo gives them the extra boost they need to get moving. Sure they're being worked harder and maybe they would last longer in a smaller car etc but they will easily last over 120k miles without giving you too many headaches. That's roughly 10 years of driving. These petrol turbos are a great alternative to diesel. It doesn't matter if you're doing lots of town driving, no dpf to clog up, cleaner emissions etc etc.. they're not quite up to diesel economy just yet but close enough.
rich_1986 to .MUFC.
8 Oct 17 #28
I will be sad to see the mighty diesel go, but accept that it’s all for the greater good.

Would be nice to see the 1.0l engines they tune for F1 Cars in a commercial vehicle as a ‘sport’ engine option. Only downside there is an F1 car weighs next to nothing.

On that note, I best get used to not using the sentence ‘enjoyable to drive’ with driverless cars being the next big push.
kingp1n to rich_1986
8 Oct 17 #25
My thought exactly
fossman to kingp1n
8 Oct 17 #26
​You are correct, my wife has a Focus ST-Line 1.0l Ecoboost which Ford claims does high 50's/low 60's mpg. Her style of driving (foot constantly to the floor) results in her averaging 39mpg, this is still better than she was getting in her 2007 Citroen C4 which was a 1.6l petrol.
joco202 to rich_1986
9 Oct 17 #49
Do your research before commenting please! The car weighs less then 1200 kg and it's quite nippy to be honest, drove it as a courtesy car. I'd buy one for that price.
rich_1986 to joco202
9 Oct 17 #51
Best do your research pal, the engine has been our for a while, and is massively underpowered for a machine of it’s size and weight (with or without passengers). Thats my experience from day in and day out testing of these engines.

You’ve driven it as a courtesy car, so your rudeness is not warranted. So pipe down and place nice. :face_with_monocle:
joco202 to rich_1986
9 Oct 17 #52
It still doesn't weight 1.5 tonne does it?
Not your cup of tea, fair enough, still adequate for most people.
Don't think I was being rude, was I?
pgilc1 to rich_1986
10 Oct 17 #54
How on earth is it "massively underpowered". As per my figures above :-

this engine has 110BHP, 0-60 in 9.8s, top speed 124MPH and 148lb/ft of torque.

A 2005 Ford Focus 1.6 had 113BHP, 0-60 in 10.5s, top speed 118MPH and a mere 114lb/ft of torque.

Thats more than enough for the day to day duties a car like this will have.
collectorcol
7 Oct 17 #15
Oh, now you add 'a decade ago'.
.MUFC. to collectorcol
7 Oct 17 #19
I stated 1963 in my first comment, so it's relevant.
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