NB - I think this is available for collection at a small number of stores only.
Go from gamer to gaming legend with the thrilling level of power competition demands. This OMEN desktop combines cutting-edge design and the industry's latest hardware to deliver a performance monster, ready to handle intense AAA games with ease, and look good doing it.
Built for the podium: the sleek, brushed-metal chassis and customizable LED lighting strikes the perfect balance of sophisticated looks and raw, gamer attitude.
CPU and Memory:
Intel Core i5 quad core.
7400.
Processor speed 3GHz.
8GB RAM.
Hard drive:
1TB and 128GB HDD and SSD storage.
DVD optical drives:
Dual layer.
Graphics:
Dedicated graphics.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 with 3GB memory.
Interfaces and connectivity:
7-in-1 media card reader.
2 x USB 2.0 ports.
4 x USB 3.0 ports.
Ethernet port.
1 HDMI port.
Bluetooth.
Wireless/Wi-Fi enabled.
Operating system and software:
Microsoft Windows 10.
General features:
Size H40.1, W16.5, D42cm.
Weight 10.52kg.
Power saving facility.
EAN: 0190781137146.
27 comments
Trogador
8 Sep 17#1
This might be just what I'm looking for. I've been looking to upgrade from my laptop for a while but always put off by the old "But the new card is just around the corner!"
Would this be a suitable purchase if I want to swap out parts in future? For example, buy this now then swap out the graphics card and processor when the new ones come along? Also is someone more knowledgable in computers know if this price holds up with custom builds?
ritchiedrama to Trogador
8 Sep 17#2
You won't be able to swap out the processor to upgrade it, you'd have to replace the motherboard, as the newer generation stuff won't work, and often these companies also use custom motherboards (I haven't checked if this is a custom mobo, I will soon, just in a dota2 game :D)
You'd be better off just building a PC from scratch, however, this as it stands isn't actually that bad value for a prebuilt.
ritchiedrama to Trogador
8 Sep 17#3
Just a rough idea, of what this spec costs (they use cheap as f components mostly): uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…BCy
So as you can see, the prebuilt PC is only slightly more and looks nicer, however, I'd rather spend +£100-200 and get something built myself that is noticably better, and intel locked CPU's (the 7400 as an example) are a waste of money anyway.
lowbacca
8 Sep 17#4
Only one HDMI port.
gowf
8 Sep 17#5
These prebuilt computers often have cheap motherboards or power supply units which means if you want to upgrade you'd have to replace multiple items.
Also the i5 is basically been blown away by the Amd processors for price/performance
I would go for something like a ryzen 1400, b350 mobo, (220£ish)
Bronze psu like aerocool or evga (30-40) make sure you check their reviews on a reputable site like jonnyguru. You don't need super expensive gold units unless you're gonna go for super expensive upgrades later on.
Cheap case (20-30)
1060 for 220-250 depending the deal (or go for a second hand Gtx 970, plenty good deals to be had on eBay)
16gb ram 80-120 depending on how fast you want it. Adata often do sale son their ram but you might want to invest a bit more on a decent corsair higher freq kit.
You'd get a much more upgradeable computer which will last a lot longer. Amd have already said they will keep their am4 platform for years
pidgin to gowf
8 Sep 17#6
Funnily enough my 1st computer (2002 or so) was a pre-built one that lasted over 10 years until mobo died. Now I've had problems with pretty much every one after that. The cheap psu unreliability is just a myth to get suckers to pay up for no reason.
AMD CPU-s are worse for gaming. This intel will stomp all over that ryzen 1400 in gaming and IPC. There's no chance you can build a better one right now with 1060 prices as they are and really no reason to upgrade for many years to come.
This is a great deal.
gowf to pidgin
8 Sep 17#22
AMD have finally caught up and the real world difference between an i5 7400 and 1400 unclocked is minimal. We're talking about the difference between 160 vs 150 fps which makes no difference for anyone except the most hardcore gamers. ( and anyone having a 165fps screen won't be using a £150 cpu)
And this is even before we take into account overclocking and newer games which will use higher threads.
Interestingly many games have a better lowest fps because Ryzens additional cores are helpful for background processes like windows 10 running some update.
Most games are GPU bound anyway.
ollie87
8 Sep 17#7
If you're happy building your own you can do a lot better for the same money. I will even help you to do it.
If you don't want to build your own stop reading now.
It'll be at least 12% faster for gaming, which might actually push it over the edge to be useful for VR.
adam0812 to ollie87
8 Sep 17#10
Very solid build. Wouldn't be surprised is the GPU in the omen runs slower than in a proper case due to heat, but I don't know that's the case.
ElRobinio to ollie87
8 Sep 17#11
Appreciate the effort, but how do you get Aria and Overclockers to deliver for free on those items?
ollie87 to ElRobinio
8 Sep 17#12
Live in either Manchester or Staffordshire and collect.
It's a rough guide, you'll probably be able to get Amazon to price match if you have Prime.
Also Maplin will price match Scan/Aria/Overclockers etc. As long as the retailer has a physical location.
pidgin to ollie87
8 Sep 17#13
Absolutely wrong. It would be way slower for gaming. The GPU you quoted is standard 1060 not a mini like in your build. Minis are way slower, louder, hotter. Also I5-7400 will annihilate ryzen 1400 in gaming. Not to mention the cheap/ugly case and barely legal windows version (N no less which has issues). As a bonus should your GPU die or something you always have iGPU to rely on which I have experenced.
Vistrix to pidgin
8 Sep 17#14
It wouldn't "annihilate" the 7400 in gaming.
The extra threads in the 1400 would suit a gamer who's recording / streaming / video editing. It would outperform the 7400 in that respect.
Another thing to note is that the i5 7400 is locked and the Ryzen 1400 can be overclocked to overcome the disadvantage in single core gaming performance. You can easily reach 4GHz with the 1400 which would outperform a standard 7400 with ease.
If you want to get into overclocking, the Ryzen 1400 is the better choice in my opinion as you then have the extra threads and the higher frequency.
ritchiedrama to pidgin
8 Sep 17#17
So much wrong here.
Sentral
8 Sep 17#8
Looks like a fridge
basergorkobal
8 Sep 17#9
Not bad for a pre-build machine. But not great value if you feel comfortable building your own.
MrDB
8 Sep 17#15
I've always wondered, aside from the size, Is there a performance difference between ATX and Micro ATX boards?
ollie87 to MrDB
8 Sep 17#16
Depends on the board, most will have fewer RAM sockets, fewer SATA ports, fewer PCI slots etc
yomanation
8 Sep 17#18
3GB of VRAM is not good enough. I bought a laptop for about that price 2 years ago and it has 4GB.
pidgin to yomanation
8 Sep 17#19
That 1GB extra has literally given you zero benefit in terms of FPS lol.
yomanation to pidgin
8 Sep 17#20
More VRAM gives you the ability to enable more features...
pidgin to yomanation
8 Sep 17#21
And suffer FPS, a trade which on a laptop noone would take where the FPS is low in the first place.
yomanation to pidgin
9 Sep 17#26
It depends. More VRAM is never bad news. You are making it sound as if "3GB is enough for anything!" which is not the case.
ivrytwr3
9 Sep 17#23
can't see any in stock anywhere.
Jonathan2400 to ivrytwr3
9 Sep 17#25
There is still a few stores in London, at a minimium, that have stock, but yeah, if you aren't anywhere near there, that's not going to be much use!
I built this for my friend, cost him £420ish and it plays everything pretty much maxed out at 1080p. The CPU is the first upgrade you can do, but tbh with a 1060 everything was GPU bottlenecked any ways. He was locking everything game at 60fps, that's all he needs on his TV.
Mandroid578
11 Sep 17#27
From the thumbnail I honestly thought it was an American fridge.
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Opening post
Go from gamer to gaming legend with the thrilling level of power competition demands. This OMEN desktop combines cutting-edge design and the industry's latest hardware to deliver a performance monster, ready to handle intense AAA games with ease, and look good doing it.
- Built for the podium: the sleek, brushed-metal chassis and customizable LED lighting strikes the perfect balance of sophisticated looks and raw, gamer attitude.
CPU and Memory:- Intel Core i5 quad core.
- 7400.
- Processor speed 3GHz.
- 8GB RAM.
Hard drive:- 1TB and 128GB HDD and SSD storage.
DVD optical drives:- Dual layer.
Graphics:- Dedicated graphics.
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 with 3GB memory.
Interfaces and connectivity:- 7-in-1 media card reader.
- 2 x USB 2.0 ports.
- 4 x USB 3.0 ports.
- Ethernet port.
- 1 HDMI port.
- Bluetooth.
- Wireless/Wi-Fi enabled.
Operating system and software:- Microsoft Windows 10.
General features:27 comments
Would this be a suitable purchase if I want to swap out parts in future? For example, buy this now then swap out the graphics card and processor when the new ones come along? Also is someone more knowledgable in computers know if this price holds up with custom builds?
You'd be better off just building a PC from scratch, however, this as it stands isn't actually that bad value for a prebuilt.
So as you can see, the prebuilt PC is only slightly more and looks nicer, however, I'd rather spend +£100-200 and get something built myself that is noticably better, and intel locked CPU's (the 7400 as an example) are a waste of money anyway.
Also the i5 is basically been blown away by the Amd processors for price/performance
I would go for something like a ryzen 1400, b350 mobo, (220£ish)
Bronze psu like aerocool or evga (30-40) make sure you check their reviews on a reputable site like jonnyguru. You don't need super expensive gold units unless you're gonna go for super expensive upgrades later on.
Cheap case (20-30)
1060 for 220-250 depending the deal (or go for a second hand Gtx 970, plenty good deals to be had on eBay)
16gb ram 80-120 depending on how fast you want it. Adata often do sale son their ram but you might want to invest a bit more on a decent corsair higher freq kit.
You'd get a much more upgradeable computer which will last a lot longer. Amd have already said they will keep their am4 platform for years
AMD CPU-s are worse for gaming. This intel will stomp all over that ryzen 1400 in gaming and IPC. There's no chance you can build a better one right now with 1060 prices as they are and really no reason to upgrade for many years to come.
This is a great deal.
And this is even before we take into account overclocking and newer games which will use higher threads.
Interestingly many games have a better lowest fps because Ryzens additional cores are helpful for background processes like windows 10 running some update.
Most games are GPU bound anyway.
If you don't want to build your own stop reading now.
PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…sTH
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 09:58 BST+0100
Advantages over this prebuild are:
Around a 13% faster CPU
It'll be at least 12% faster for gaming, which might actually push it over the edge to be useful for VR.
It's a rough guide, you'll probably be able to get Amazon to price match if you have Prime.
Also Maplin will price match Scan/Aria/Overclockers etc. As long as the retailer has a physical location.
As a bonus should your GPU die or something you always have iGPU to rely on which I have experenced.
The extra threads in the 1400 would suit a gamer who's recording / streaming / video editing. It would outperform the 7400 in that respect.
Another thing to note is that the i5 7400 is locked and the Ryzen 1400 can be overclocked to overcome the disadvantage in single core gaming performance. You can easily reach 4GHz with the 1400 which would outperform a standard 7400 with ease.
If you want to get into overclocking, the Ryzen 1400 is the better choice in my opinion as you then have the extra threads and the higher frequency.
I built this for my friend, cost him £420ish and it plays everything pretty much maxed out at 1080p. The CPU is the first upgrade you can do, but tbh with a 1060 everything was GPU bottlenecked any ways. He was locking everything game at 60fps, that's all he needs on his TV.