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cyclonus10
22 Sep 17#29
I'm dreading my mobo dying as my CPU is 4th gen 4790k.
Was a nightmare finding a mobo for my i5 750 processor before I bought my current one a few years ago.
Shino to cyclonus10
25 Sep 17#44
Why would it die? I still have 2nd gen 2600k :muscle: and I’m a heavy user, I should be the one dreading everything dying lol :worried: . Waiting for 8700k prices...
roguesspam
22 Sep 17#26
When 7th gen was released, 6th gen prices didnt really change much but then 6-7 wasnt really much of an upgrade, 8th is, so intel will either inflate the price and leave 7th gen as is (and lose sales to ryzen in the process) or put 8th at a similar price to 7 and then lower 7.
BetaRomeo to roguesspam
22 Sep 17#27
Then again, the 7700K is going to be the best upgrade available to owners of Z170 and Z270 boards without replacing their motherboard. Intel won't need to lower their 7700K prices as there will still be significant demand.
Just look at the prices of the 2600K and 3770K even today.
Either way, it's difficult to imagine a scenario where someone desperately needs a 7700K today. Let's see what happens in a couple of weeks.
Shino to BetaRomeo
25 Sep 17#43
I’m still using 2600k :blush:
QuickProfits
23 Sep 17#39
Changed my mind after reading comments :astonished:
LeftResponse to QuickProfits
24 Sep 17#42
That's what we're here for Papi. :muscle:
QuickProfits
23 Sep 17#41
Gonna bite. Any suggestions for a motherboard?
zwarder
22 Sep 17#36
i7 7740X is worth considering although motherboard will be more expensive
shu123 to zwarder
23 Sep 17#40
Not worth considering at all. 8th gen probably a better bet
robodan918
21 Sep 17#1
I got my i7 6700 non K for £200 in Feb 2016. Never understood why unlocked K variant was worth the 50% extra. OC won't get you THAT much more power.
ritchiedrama to robodan918
21 Sep 17#4
So because you don't understand, you think that it isn't worth it, understood.
robodan918 to ritchiedrama
23 Sep 17#38
yep
Agharta to robodan918
21 Sep 17#8
They don't usually cost anywhere near 50% more though! As for value for money at the top end; C'est la vie, welocme to capatlism.
vulcanproject to robodan918
21 Sep 17#9
6700k wasn't 50 percent extra though. Back then it was like £290 or so and 6700 average price was like £240. 6700 non K turbo on all four cores is 3.7Ghz. The whole point of the K being unlocked is to actually overclock it.
So on a 6700K you can usually OC them to at least 4.6ghz, which is 4.6ghz on all four cores. Which means it can be quite a lot faster than a non k 6700. That's a 25 percent clockspeed boost.
Syst3mzero to robodan918
21 Sep 17#17
you are aware before you even overclock its already faster yeah? base on 6700 is 3.4 and turbo 4.0 and on 6700k base is 4.0 and turbo 4.2 its not a massive difference but then that is without the overclock, on top of the already higher speed you can then choose to push it further if you wish.
but just by base you get 17% more speed and turbo 5% more with no overclocking.
an average overclock for the k chip is about 4.6 which would give you 18% over the non K at turbo.
my hat off to you for finding it at £200 in feb 2016 as the cheapest price recorded for that month is £275. cheapest price near there was £250 in march.
shame you didn't share the deal on HUKD it would have set the site on fire at that price.
M0nk3h to Syst3mzero
21 Sep 17#19
Let's be honest though, this isn't 1980 where clock speed was the underlining factor that made a CPU faster. There are different factors now that can make a CPU "faster".
Which I'm assuming you are aware of.
Just because it has a higher clock-speed does not neccesarily mean a faster CPU.
Syst3mzero to M0nk3h
21 Sep 17#21
sorry are you drunk or high?
you do know I was replying to someone comparing a 6700k to a 6700 non k, they are identical other than clock speed and the fact the k version is unlocked so there are absolutely no differences other than clock speed, do you think that somehow an identical chip that's locked to a lower speed is somehow going to be faster?
sorry you just blew my mind, you took the time to try and correct me without bothering to pay any attention to what I said.
M0nk3h to Syst3mzero
21 Sep 17#24
I do indeed know that point, and no I'm not drunk.
Maybe my point came off a little... different than I intended.
I wasn't stating specifically that the CPUs you mention, were at all faster than each other - k or non-k.
A point you make was:
"you are aware before you even overclock its already faster yeah? "
Faster, on paper, yes. Any significant difference, no, which you also state.
robodan918 to Syst3mzero
23 Sep 17#37
ebay seller for brand new tray item not gonna set hukd on fire with that one buy retail /high street - pay more :P I've been looking to get a 7700 the same way, but that seller no longer has stock on ebay - probably because of returns, 10% seller fees, and paypal fees If I come across any good cpu deals on the 8000 series I'll be sure to post
LeftResponse
22 Sep 17#34
Well that esculated quickly!
spannerzone to LeftResponse
22 Sep 17#35
they so often do, armchair warriors are always entertaining :popcorn:
The_Hoff
22 Sep 17#32
Don't forget to use high quality mayo when overclocking (not recommended - Intel) your CPU. Intel use low-grade:
Get yourself a Ryzen 5 1600, spend the extra £100 you've saved on your next GPU (that's the difference between a (1070-1080-1080Ti / Vega 56-64). If you're gaming that'll give you a much greater benefit.
LeftResponse to The_Hoff
22 Sep 17#33
If only Ryzen's were around when I bought my 6700k, the saving I made could of paid for my mayo too! :cry:
gap30
22 Sep 17#30
Was looking at this yesterday very tempting
Not bothered about the new chipset due shortly
Never read one bad review for this (apart from it runs a little hot but I wont be gaming so that is not a problem)
Beast of a chip
LeftResponse to gap30
22 Sep 17#31
If you just want the fastest chip, without overclocking then it's not a bad price. As others have said, there is a reason for this and I would personally wait until the new series is released.
Just make sure you buy whatever liquid cooling block is good at the moment (I have the corsair H115). Even though you're not overclocking, still take the precaution. That announcement was released back in May, so to counter this they would need to release an update to throttle them at high temperatures. All the more reason to keep them cool with something more than an air cooler.
I don't actually have this chip (nor would I buy it), but there were alot (and I mean ALOT) of Intel updates around that time. I remember them distinctly because even though I have a 6700k, my overclock became unstable after installing some of them and I had to adjust the voltages again (might of been a coincidence). I wouldn't of thought they would affect my chip at all, but who knows.
zwarder
21 Sep 17#5
This or ryzen
vulcanproject to zwarder
21 Sep 17#6
8700k in about two weeks
shu123 to zwarder
21 Sep 17#12
Ryzen
Ev0lution to shu123
21 Sep 17#18
Lol against a £287 i7 7700k? Really? Which Ryzen has better value and performance?
jenovat to Ev0lution
21 Sep 17#20
Depends on your usage. It's clear that the 7700k is better at performance right now for games and will most likely for the immediate future, but a quad core has nothing on an 8 core,16 thread in workload applications. I bought a intel for my previous rig but this time I got a ryzen, NEVER be a fan boy.
The reason intel is dropping in price is because they're afraid of AMD atm. If you like cheaper stuff, be objective and know that ryzen is better for certain applications.
Syst3mzero to jenovat
22 Sep 17#25
Never be a fan boy! totally agree, in the last 6 years I have switched gfx card manufacturers twice and cpu manufacturers once, I go where the price, performance, and requirements take me. fan boys pay more and get less.
honestly glad I don't need an upgrade at the mo though as I think what you are saying is pretty much spot on... its not a clear cut race at the mo and it depends on your needs, I was lucky enough to do my last processor upgrade at a time when intel had the goods and AMD didn't so I didn't need to worry about which way to go :smile:
shu123 to Ev0lution
21 Sep 17#22
Ryzen has a range of products I wasn't specific enough. Save yourself £100 get Ryzen 1600? You get a motherboard that's is going to be supported for years. Anyways I support competition not a Monopoly. This socket is dead next month, keep open mind no fan boying.
I7 7700K more than likely killed by 8th gen i5 6 core next month.
jukkie to zwarder
22 Sep 17#28
If just for gaming, this. If you're a streamer, or use other software than can benefit from all the Ryzen cores, then Ryzen.
coerce86
21 Sep 17#10
8th gen out in october
RedRain to coerce86
21 Sep 17#11
Does that not require a new Motherboard ?
Klopek to RedRain
21 Sep 17#13
It does.
RedRain to Klopek
21 Sep 17#15
Thanks its annoying to the best i can upgrade to is a 7700k but due to the heat issues it would be the 6700k and thier is no way i am buying a new mobo
coerce86 to RedRain
21 Sep 17#23
potentially, it'll fit the socket but it's not compatible
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Was a nightmare finding a mobo for my i5 750 processor before I bought my current one a few years ago.
Just look at the prices of the 2600K and 3770K even today.
Either way, it's difficult to imagine a scenario where someone desperately needs a 7700K today. Let's see what happens in a couple of weeks.
As for value for money at the top end; C'est la vie, welocme to capatlism.
So on a 6700K you can usually OC them to at least 4.6ghz, which is 4.6ghz on all four cores. Which means it can be quite a lot faster than a non k 6700. That's a 25 percent clockspeed boost.
base on 6700 is 3.4 and turbo 4.0 and on 6700k base is 4.0 and turbo 4.2
its not a massive difference but then that is without the overclock, on top of the already higher speed you can then choose to push it further if you wish.
but just by base you get 17% more speed and turbo 5% more with no overclocking.
an average overclock for the k chip is about 4.6 which would give you 18% over the non K at turbo.
my hat off to you for finding it at £200 in feb 2016 as the cheapest price recorded for that month is £275.
cheapest price near there was £250 in march.
shame you didn't share the deal on HUKD it would have set the site on fire at that price.
Which I'm assuming you are aware of.
Just because it has a higher clock-speed does not neccesarily mean a faster CPU.
you do know I was replying to someone comparing a 6700k to a 6700 non k, they are identical other than clock speed and the fact the k version is unlocked so there are absolutely no differences other than clock speed, do you think that somehow an identical chip that's locked to a lower speed is somehow going to be faster?
sorry you just blew my mind, you took the time to try and correct me without bothering to pay any attention to what I said.
Maybe my point came off a little... different than I intended.
I wasn't stating specifically that the CPUs you mention, were at all faster than each other - k or non-k.
A point you make was:
"you are aware before you even overclock its already faster yeah? "
Faster, on paper, yes. Any significant difference, no, which you also state.
not gonna set hukd on fire with that one
buy retail /high street - pay more :P
I've been looking to get a 7700 the same way, but that seller no longer has stock on ebay - probably because of returns, 10% seller fees, and paypal fees
If I come across any good cpu deals on the 8000 series I'll be sure to post
Get yourself a Ryzen 5 1600, spend the extra £100 you've saved on your next GPU (that's the difference between a (1070-1080-1080Ti / Vega 56-64). If you're gaming that'll give you a much greater benefit.
Not bothered about the new chipset due shortly
Never read one bad review for this (apart from it runs a little hot but I wont be gaming so that is not a problem)
Beast of a chip
Just make sure you buy whatever liquid cooling block is good at the moment (I have the corsair H115). Even though you're not overclocking, still take the precaution. That announcement was released back in May, so to counter this they would need to release an update to throttle them at high temperatures. All the more reason to keep them cool with something more than an air cooler.
I don't actually have this chip (nor would I buy it), but there were alot (and I mean ALOT) of Intel updates around that time. I remember them distinctly because even though I have a 6700k, my overclock became unstable after installing some of them and I had to adjust the voltages again (might of been a coincidence). I wouldn't of thought they would affect my chip at all, but who knows.
The reason intel is dropping in price is because they're afraid of AMD atm. If you like cheaper stuff, be objective and know that ryzen is better for certain applications.
honestly glad I don't need an upgrade at the mo though as I think what you are saying is pretty much spot on... its not a clear cut race at the mo and it depends on your needs, I was lucky enough to do my last processor upgrade at a time when intel had the goods and AMD didn't so I didn't need to worry about which way to go :smile:
I7 7700K more than likely killed by 8th gen i5 6 core next month.
If you're a streamer, or use other software than can benefit from all the Ryzen cores, then Ryzen.
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Intel spokesman: We've offered you our greatest overclockable K-range CPU yet, but DONT GO OVERCLOCKING IT NOW! :thumbsup:
EDIT: If you want to save money buy getting an earlier generation, buy a 6700k not a 7700k. Unless you don't want to overclock it... wait what?