The GEN10 in the chart is a different CPU to this one in the Deal, probably a more expensive model.
djonesuk to jackvdbuk
1 Sep 17#7
It supports 4 3.5" drives in the drive bay. If you want to use an SSD you can fit one in the optical drive bay and use SATA port 5, but you'll need to buy the conversion kit or jury rig your own solution.
reading the threads regarding this i dont think itll be worth changing, the case does look sleek though but the chip is soldered on and DDR4 ECC is super expensive plus theres not much elsse thats good, extra PCie slot i guess. happy with my gen8 to be delivered soon thankfully.
johncas
1 Sep 17#4
No iLo and soldered CPU, might as well go Gen8 - They seem to have targeted this one at home / media use (I certainly don't need 3 display ports on my server!) which is a shame
OrribleHarry to johncas
1 Sep 17#20
The N54L was soldered on, it was an awesome machine.
The_Hoff to OrribleHarry
2 Sep 17#24
Was? Mine is still running great :smile:
OrribleHarry to The_Hoff
2 Sep 17#25
Mine too, in fact my N36L is still fully functional
MrSweeney
1 Sep 17#5
Can't believe they dropped iLo on these servers, such a convenient tool and one of my favourite features of a HP server.
Oh well will just have to buy a DL380 and see if I can adapt the server cab to fit in the bedroom wardrobe :unamused: :joy:
Taylor1892 to MrSweeney
2 Sep 17#38
I smell a lack rack build coming up...
Lowtrawler
1 Sep 17#6
I'm still running the N36L. It's on 24/7, running synology and doesn't miss a beat. I note that all other microservers have a higher TDP and so I'm likely saving a bit each year in energy.
jai47
1 Sep 17#8
Does anyone know if the Performance Edition is substantially better or is it over priced for what it is? ebuyer.com/796585
fred3x to jai47
1 Sep 17#12
£506.46 :astonished:
Sagacity
1 Sep 17#9
Could benchmark would suggest so. 2x the performance.
FatherTed
1 Sep 17#10
No ILO is a deal breaker.
mgk to FatherTed
1 Sep 17#16
Don't you have to pay for it on gen8...I have a gen 8 but never tried.ilo
popolou to mgk
1 Sep 17#18
You can pay for it yes. Pops
jackvdbuk to popolou
1 Sep 17#19
can you elaborate? Pm if you prefer.
MrSweeney to jackvdbuk
1 Sep 17#21
You can get a free temp license for 2 months from the HP site, you can then re-use the same one again and again by just doing a factory reset on the iLo which only takes about 5 minutes to do. The only real config you lose when doing the reset is iLo user accounts you set up. But the main admin account is always there.
If you're lucky and know someone who has paid for an iLo license or have access to a corporate server you can re-use their one. :innocent:
tezray
1 Sep 17#11
Finally out in slight cheapness I really could do with this because the fan noise on my gen8 is so bad it lives in the loft and the 16gb ram limit in the gen8 is not good Esxi and 11 vms doesn't play well but how much would 32gb ddr4 be don't even want to check. I have a e3 1225 v2 in mine not sure how this would compare with that
CampGareth
1 Sep 17#13
It looks like the RAM included is not ECC? Is that correct? Shame if so.
Lowtrawler to CampGareth
1 Sep 17#14
According to ebuyer it is ECC.
popolou
1 Sep 17#15
Wow, no iLo and no Intelligent Provisioning. Clear statement being made here by HP.
Pops
scooter
1 Sep 17#17
i do not know what for but i want one :smile: i have a qnap nas 4 bay a 1 bay one with android on as well as qnap os and a old HP L46 ?? i think it is so why do i like them so much i want more hmm must stop :smile: TY op
OK now i mite go GEN8 ???????
nascent
1 Sep 17#22
Wish there was still a way to buy I'll for my gen7, I love it. I have 7 drives in it, totalling 35tb. But the ILO cards no longer exist.
007xico
1 Sep 17#23
I sold my synology 214play and I am looking for a replacement.
Is this a good replacement?
666
2 Sep 17#26
Only just ordered a n54l, currently running a n40l which is struggling a little bit now with serving the whole house & being used with windows remotely all at the same time, want a gen8 but as it requires different ram that's not going to happen for a while :disappointed: Gen10 sounds like a worse deal due to not being able to upgrade the processor
OrribleHarry to 666
2 Sep 17#29
Switch to Linux and it will serve the whole house without breaking sweat.
Panda221
2 Sep 17#27
My Gen8 (Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2) out does this new model, so i'll stick with what I've got.
tubbyhubby to Panda221
2 Sep 17#28
I too have a Gen 8 and upgraded to a Xeon E3-1220V2 with 16GB ram running Server 2016 4x2TB drives and an SSD for the OS. It is probably the one to buy as the prices will drop now so get them cheap and upgrade the CPU
Panda221 to tubbyhubby
2 Sep 17#35
I've got 4 x 3TB and a SSD with Server 2012 R2 on it and has been running 24/7 for years now with no issues so no need to upgrade and personally I think the GEN8 looks better cosmetically as well lol. Also when i got mine i got the free matching PS1810-8G switch with it as well.
tubbyhubby to Panda221
2 Sep 17#36
Jammy on the PS1810-8G switch i bought one earlier this year for £100, crazy impulse buy but looks good sitting on top of the server Like yourself it runs 24/7 a great piece of kit, i only upgraded the CPU as i was putting server 2016 on and wanted a central data storage for all the kit.
just had a look mine is the G7 40L got a asus GT610 in it should i stick or twist hmm
popolou
2 Sep 17#33
The Gen8 will have a considerable life left, especially if this Gen10 redesign represents HP's latest thoughts on the microserver.
Pops
Gediminas.Venclova
2 Sep 17#34
Looking for a NAS server(XPEnology or freenas), cant decide which is better, gen8 or gen10? Out of the box gen10 cpu is more powerfull and it less power hungy. Also 8 gb of ram included. But for gen8 you can upgrade cpu, and ram is cheaper :thinking:
nascent
2 Sep 17#37
Anyone know where to get ILO cards for an n54l?
goochmonster to nascent
3 Sep 17#39
The iLo cards for G7s are like gold dust. eBay is going to be your best chance and even then it's usually an international seller and the price is ridiculous.
RJP23
19 Sep 17#40
I've been running an N40L for years as a download/storage box, streaming content to Plex on various devices.
It really struggles on some content when it has to transcode it and can't handle it.
Is the Gen10 significantly better? Or should I be looking at a more powerful machine?
jai47 to RJP23
20 Sep 17#41
Similar reason as to why I have not made the change from my N54L yet...
With the Ryzen CPU around; its plausible to build a much more powerful system than the MicroServer for a similar price to the HP Pro version of the microserver, as I guess all you require is a CPU, Motherboard, PSU, RAM, a case and you'll keep your data drives. I read somewhere that Windows Server 2016 does run on Ryzen (if you use windows).
For around £600 you could build something like this:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
MoBo: Asus PRIME B350M-A
RAM: 2 x AData 2400MHz 16GB (32GB Total)
PSU: Be Quiet! 500W PSU
Case: Any with enough bays for your HDD/SSDs GPU: Transfer from N54L HDD: Transfer from N54L SSD: Transfer from N54L
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HPE ProLiant Gen10 Entry Spec
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how many drives can this fit , more than 4?
most notably it seems:
gen10 vs gen8
no ILO on gen 10
amd chip
Think some beta testers in the US managed to slot an SSD or two on the side of the case or in the optical bay area.
This forum should have some comparison test results:
homeservershow.com/for…rs/
misco.co.uk/pro…Kit
Oh well will just have to buy a DL380 and see if I can adapt the server cab to fit in the bedroom wardrobe :unamused: :joy:
ebuyer.com/796585
Pops
The only real config you lose when doing the reset is iLo user accounts you set up. But the main admin account is always there.
If you're lucky and know someone who has paid for an iLo license or have access to a corporate server you can re-use their one. :innocent:
Pops
OK now i mite go GEN8 ???????
Is this a good replacement?
Gen10 sounds like a worse deal due to not being able to upgrade the processor
Pops
It really struggles on some content when it has to transcode it and can't handle it.
Is the Gen10 significantly better? Or should I be looking at a more powerful machine?
With the Ryzen CPU around; its plausible to build a much more powerful system than the MicroServer for a similar price to the HP Pro version of the microserver, as I guess all you require is a CPU, Motherboard, PSU, RAM, a case and you'll keep your data drives.
I read somewhere that Windows Server 2016 does run on Ryzen (if you use windows).
For around £600 you could build something like this:
GPU: Transfer from N54L
HDD: Transfer from N54L
SSD: Transfer from N54L