got £14 tax for a £30 dashcam oh btw the custom insurance does nothing.
think twice before you order from them
davt99 to JC1997
4 Sep 17#3
Think you have to factor in the customs tax. Have only had it once but it could be on any order.
reddit to JC1997
4 Sep 17#4
You should have appealed to customs then as they apply the rates and you should not have been charged that much for a £30 item.
What is this customs insurance that you mention?
MrWani to reddit
5 Sep 17#26
Unfortunately it was correct 20% VAT + £8 administration fee which is standard. Not sure if there's a way to avoid paying the admin fee. I imagine declaring the liability upfront is the answer but that is probably the duty of the supplier.
tleecher06 to JC1997
4 Sep 17#5
I bet 3/4 of that was an admin charge though.
iz123456789
4 Sep 17#2
Thanks for the warning
Springerbhoy
4 Sep 17#6
Is it £11 for admin?
sam_of_london
4 Sep 17#7
Negative. Will be full of spyware inside like all other Doogee. Specs and price mean nothing when you are buying spyware and virus.
reddit to sam_of_london
4 Sep 17#8
Which particular apps and services contain the malware and spyware?
Dusty to sam_of_london
4 Sep 17#10
Don't see the big deal. Root it, remove any problem apps, unroot. Job done..
reddit to Dusty
4 Sep 17#12
Or even get hold of the factory firmware and remove any potential offending apps (if any are sgown to be present) and repack the firmware.
Yup.. 2 solutions to a problem that might not exist. It's not really a reason to disregard these cheap handsets unless warranties a requirement.
reddit to Dusty
4 Sep 17#17
Indeed.
I unpacked the firmware and scanned it using 3 products and 0 issues reported.
CarlWalker to Dusty
5 Sep 17#30
I wouldn't want to risk my bank/credit card details being sold on Dream Market on the dark web. It happens
sburley to CarlWalker
5 Sep 17#38
Use Paypal then, most resellers offer it and it covers you (more) for any DOA issues.
morrig to sburley
5 Sep 17#41
Thought that to this seller and Gearbest do but Alixexpress does not and would not buy of them because of that.
carlawilling7 to sburley
7 Sep 17#50
Was thinking about this but then if buying any item through one of these DOOGEE phones, if what is true about the spyware they would now have your PayPal password copied for future use?
Sad as I was really interested in this model for the price. But if they can get access of my bank details It will turn out to be a very expensive venture and phone... :thinking:
amour3k to reddit
5 Sep 17#23
Nice one, thanx. :-)
sam_of_london to Dusty
5 Sep 17#24
How do you root ? By using more malware ? Rooted phones are not safe either , therefore banking apps are designed not to work on them . No security updates either. Deliberately buy a lemon and curse your luck later.
Dusty to sam_of_london
5 Sep 17#27
I appreciate what you're saying about banking apps. What I was suggesting was root to remove any problem apps then un-root back to stock. In all honesty I've never had Malwarebyes, AVG, Avast, Norton or McAfee flag a rooted phone as infected solely due to root even with KingRoot.
I suspect if the truth be known we'd all be shocked at the amount of data collecting going on with Android and other OS's for government snooping. A good case in point was Kryptowire exposing Adups on an unrooted Blu R1. We should all be checking for that!
zomgwtfbbq to Dusty
5 Sep 17#39
Doesn't work like that unfortunately. If it were that easy, everyone would have done it.
Most of these phones either cannot be rooted or have read only firmware that can't be flashed without paying for PC programs that hack them and need custom firmware for the specific handset you have in order to do this anyway. At that point (and after import customs is added) might as well just buy a half decent phone here in the U.K. with comparable specs for a few dozen quid more and call it a day.
Dusty to zomgwtfbbq
5 Sep 17#44
To be honest I've never come up against a phone that couldn't be rooted one way or the other. Don't know about unflashable Android handsets, maybe something with no support or just obscure.
What pay for PC programs that hack are we talking about here?
reddit to zomgwtfbbq
5 Sep 17#45
MTK based devices are pretty easy to root and there are plenty of tools for this and development, all of which that I have are completely free.
So saying that most of these phones cannot be rooted is incorrect because most can.
It's more a case of how many people want to bother in the first place.
Some really no name brands that don't get much attention in the market and are therefore less likely to receive support for rooting and custom mods etc.
Yes if you can spend the money it may well be worth spending a lot more on a UK sourced product but then this is why HUKD is popular, for people to save as much as they can and in the case of those that can't afford the extra, it provides another potential outlet.
unob to sam_of_london
5 Sep 17#20
Said someone who never bought one. My Doogee has been fine for the last year but don't take the word of an owner. lol :-p
sam_of_london to unob
5 Sep 17#25
Most of the people here don't even know what spyware is installed because it is hidden. I only knew when I scanned with all the anti virus software and found more than 10 spyware baked in the Doogee phone. Also not all virus was detected by all antivirus. When I spoke with Doogee they said to root phone and lose warranty . What pathetic company will sell phone with Virus inside and if you root ,you lose warranty. Plus rooted phones are not safe either, that is why banking apps do not work.
soldierboy001 to sam_of_london
5 Sep 17#33
You are talking out of your sit upon, I have sourced lots of Doogee phones for people and never had a problem with any model. Also never had customs problems, but there again I live in Spain. Doogee are very good phones with a very good reliability record, just don't believe the trolls who are just mischief making with false stories of unreliability, the same usernames appear all over the place.
sam_of_london to soldierboy001
5 Sep 17#34
Yes , You can build a great reputation selling spyware and virus. There is no problem unless you find out what is happening in the background . Just because spyware is hidden in hacked versions of apps which cannot be removed , does not make it any better. On face of it , the specs and price look excellent, that is why I fell for it. But they are subsidising the phones by selling virus and spyware inside them and sooner or later some of your customers are going to find out.
zomgwtfbbq to sam_of_london
5 Sep 17#35
As an owner of one of the bargain basement Android tablets that I bought off Gearbest, I fully agree with this.
Don't think the Samsungs, Motorolas, apples of this world are squeaky clean either. In this day and age, all smartphones will monitor you. If they don't, then I will eat my Chinese Zuk z2 phone with ketchup. :-D
zomgwtfbbq to hoggs
5 Sep 17#37
The difference is, on mainstream phones it is bloat ware which is easily removable due to the somewhat half-decent EU requirements of phone companies not to be selling malware infested handsets in order to be resold in the U.K.
These Chinese phones are impossible to remove the spyware from, and rooting them does not work -- since it's embedded into their firmware (anyone saying otherwise either doesn't know how it works or is lying). You'd need to flash it with custom firmware and risk bricking the handset -- I found this out the hard way after scanning it with MBAM. Wouldn't touch any of these spyware infested Chinese phones with a barge pole knowing what I know now...
irradiated
4 Sep 17#14
be interesting to know if its a global rom with play store, ive asked them so lets see. im after a 100-150 range phone for my daughter to replace her redmi note 3 (smashed screen) and something like this might fit the bill if its global
EN1GMA to irradiated
4 Sep 17#15
Just get a redmi not 4 no? Was posted here for about 120 the other day
irradiated to EN1GMA
4 Sep 17#16
yeah i thought about that but its be nice to try something different, i like the idea of dual cameras and bigger storage but if all else fails thats the backup plan
EN1GMA to irradiated
5 Sep 17#29
How did you find the redmi? Still thinking about it. Not bought a high value item from gear best or bang good.
tleecher06 to EN1GMA
5 Sep 17#31
Try AlliExpress, quite safe to buy from as they hold your money up until you confirm that goods received.
irradiated to EN1GMA
6 Sep 17#47
found them to be great for the money, excellent battery life and quite slick too but always try for a 'global' version, 1of ours is, 1 isnt and its quite irratating having all these chinese apps etc and play store can be fiddly on non global versions too. but comparing it to a £500 sony, id say try one as youll be pleasantly suprised
carlawilling7 to irradiated
7 Sep 17#51
Thanks how do you check whether it is the global version as I am still thinking about it and the global one sounds better and safer. :wink:
irradiated to carlawilling7
7 Sep 17#52
my rule of thumb, if it doesn't say 'global' then it isnt
carlawilling7 to irradiated
11 Sep 17#54
Where will I find that it states that it is a global version... as nothing global mentioned above. My rule of thumb is, if I know the answer I don't ask the question! :thumbsup:
nougat to carlawilling7
6 Oct 17#55
Where do you want to use it? It states the bands and languages in the description and includes all european bands.
reddit to irradiated
4 Sep 17#18
Yes it does have the Google Play Store.
thekanester
5 Sep 17#19
@reddit Does this a proper gyro?
reddit to thekanester
5 Sep 17#22
Just lists the sensors as Proximity Sensor, Ambient light sensor, G-Sensor, Fingerprint Sensor, so doesn't look like it does.
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oh btw the custom insurance does nothing.
think twice before you order from them
What is this customs insurance that you mention?
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I unpacked the firmware and scanned it using 3 products and 0 issues reported.
Sad as I was really interested in this model for the price. But if they can get access of my bank details It will turn out to be a very expensive venture and phone... :thinking:
I suspect if the truth be known we'd all be shocked at the amount of data collecting going on with Android and other OS's for government snooping. A good case in point was Kryptowire exposing Adups on an unrooted Blu R1. We should all be checking for that!
Most of these phones either cannot be rooted or have read only firmware that can't be flashed without paying for PC programs that hack them and need custom firmware for the specific handset you have in order to do this anyway. At that point (and after import customs is added) might as well just buy a half decent phone here in the U.K. with comparable specs for a few dozen quid more and call it a day.
What pay for PC programs that hack are we talking about here?
So saying that most of these phones cannot be rooted is incorrect because most can.
It's more a case of how many people want to bother in the first place.
Some really no name brands that don't get much attention in the market and are therefore less likely to receive support for rooting and custom mods etc.
Yes if you can spend the money it may well be worth spending a lot more on a UK sourced product but then this is why HUKD is popular, for people to save as much as they can and in the case of those that can't afford the extra, it provides another potential outlet.
My Doogee has been fine for the last year but don't take the word of an owner. lol :-p
forum.xda-developers.com/gen…ge3
These Chinese phones are impossible to remove the spyware from, and rooting them does not work -- since it's embedded into their firmware (anyone saying otherwise either doesn't know how it works or is lying). You'd need to flash it with custom firmware and risk bricking the handset -- I found this out the hard way after scanning it with MBAM. Wouldn't touch any of these spyware infested Chinese phones with a barge pole knowing what I know now...