Lots of positive reviews, any opinion will be well received. Sizes 14-22 available.
A tough alloy-framed bike that's an ideal starter for the world of mountain biking.The Diamondback Scree 1.0 is ideal for starting out in the rugged world of mountain biking. Its tough alloy frame is lightweight and manageable but will easily handle the abuse the trails can give.
Alloy Butted Hydrofomed frame tubing for a lighter, more responsive and durable bike
Shimano 21-speed derailleurs for smooth gear shifting
Suntour M3030 Suspension Forks
Tektro Novela mechanical disc brakes for a powerful and controlled braking action
Double walled 27.5” rims are lightweight yet stiff, to deliver precise steering
12 comments
zed68
21 Sep 17#1
gianthair
21 Sep 17#2
Nice, bought one in my lunch break. Will ride it home! :raised_hand:
bonzobanana
22 Sep 17#3
This is more mountain bike style than actually a mountain bike same as the entry level priced models. You don't put a basic tourney rear derailleur and low end freewheel on a proper mountain bike. Overall this looks like very entry level components fitted to a reasonable hardtail frame. I think this would be good value at £160 if you know it's limitations but £270 is too much. Look at Go Outdoors calibre models some of them are very good at a great price and properly configured for off road use..
The reason you don't put freewheels on mountain bikes is its a lower strength design that can lead to the rear wheel axle becoming bent if you do even small drops. You can get away with one slightly if the bike has rear suspension and can cushion some of the impact that the rear wheel gets but this is a hardtail. On a bicycle most of the weight is on the rear wheel not front. Many people don't take their mountain bike off road and ride them on the roads only if so you'll get away with this but it still seems too expensive for what it is.
IndyS to bonzobanana
22 Sep 17#4
Excellent point, purchased a MB for my son and for normal road use, think I made an error, the resistance from the tyres is too much. Looking to change for hybrid wheels now. :unamused:
mattster to bonzobanana
22 Sep 17#5
Any better deals you could recommend. It would probably be for casual use for myself off road and on road.
Besford to mattster
22 Sep 17#6
If it's really for on road/towpaths and similar you do NOT want heavy and poor suspension and big knobbly tyres slowing you down (don't be a fashion victim!) - a suitable hybrid with appropriate tyres for your use would be best and something decent can be had for less money than this. If you do want to do some serious off road riding you'll need something of much higher quality (and price) than this but it won't be much fun on road.
In summary, this is no bargain and really isn't best suited to either kind of user. To do either properly you need two bikes - anything else is a big compromise either way. I suspect that 90%+ of 'mountain bike' buyers would be better off with a road-orientated hybrid.
I'm no fan of Halfords but if you have a tight budget it's worth looking at the Carrera range when they are on some kind of offer, which is often. Decathlon offers good value too.
It has a high quality cassette based drivetrain, disc brakes and is excellent on road and still good for light off road use. Currently on offer at £240. Don't consider the cheaper Parva that is freewheel based. Subway bikes are very strong with decent reinforcing on the frame. I think the official weight limit is 120kg plus a small allowance for luggage/accessories etc with an absolute weight limit that should never be exceeded of 160kg.
If you want a faster road bike consider a cyclocross bike like the Voodoo Limba at halfords or Lost Lad at Go Outdoors. These are racing bike style but strengthened frame and wheels with disc brakes that you can take off road. I think for most people though the Subway is the better option.
zed68 to mattster
22 Sep 17#8
second to that, casual rider here, on and off road, would voodoo marasa be to much ?
TargetRenegade
22 Sep 17#9
Beware. This bike is very poor quality. My son had one for about 4 months and the rear quick release snapped in the hub. GO were useless and tried to blame my son for the issue. Raleigh acknowledged that is was a manufacturing fault and refunded in full.
bonzobanana to TargetRenegade
22 Sep 17#12
That's pretty much what happens normally when you use a freewheel on a mountain bike. If its a solid unhardened axle its likely to bend but if you put a hardened hollow axle and quick release they are more brittle and more likely to break. If you look at the freewheel hub at the bottom and the red circles that is how the bearings are spaced and then look at the wider bearings on the freehub above.
That area marked as 'spacer' on the bottom freewheel is under huge pressure to bend on the left side if you use such a bike for drops or just a heavy rider and that's exactly where it looks like your axle and quick release has broken within that area. Perfectly normal when you use a freewheel on a mountain bike and actually use that bike off road with jumps etc. When you fit a freewheel to a mountain bike it is more a mountain bike style bike rather than mountain bike. In the old days when there was no freehubs, freewheels could be a lot stronger as they were used on quite premium bikes but nowadays freewheels are entry level only. They are fit for purpose although not great on a road bike but they are completely wrong on a mountain bike.
I suspect Raleigh knew immediately what the issue was but didn't want to admit the bike wasn't really a mountain bike because it was compromised by unsuitable and weak components. Probably most customers don't use it off road or give it the abuse that would create an issue. The extra strength is only one advantage a cassette and freehub has over a freewheel there are many more.
TargetRenegade
22 Sep 17#10
mattster
22 Sep 17#11
Thanks for your help people. Really useful info. Will look into those bikes :thumbsup:
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A tough alloy-framed bike that's an ideal starter for the world of mountain biking.The Diamondback Scree 1.0 is ideal for starting out in the rugged world of mountain biking. Its tough alloy frame is lightweight and manageable but will easily handle the abuse the trails can give.
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Alloy Butted Hydrofomed frame tubing for a lighter, more responsive and durable bike
-
Shimano 21-speed derailleurs for smooth gear shifting
- Suntour M3030 Suspension Forks
- Tektro Novela mechanical disc brakes for a powerful and controlled braking action
Double walled 27.5” rims are lightweight yet stiff, to deliver precise steering12 comments
The reason you don't put freewheels on mountain bikes is its a lower strength design that can lead to the rear wheel axle becoming bent if you do even small drops. You can get away with one slightly if the bike has rear suspension and can cushion some of the impact that the rear wheel gets but this is a hardtail. On a bicycle most of the weight is on the rear wheel not front. Many people don't take their mountain bike off road and ride them on the roads only if so you'll get away with this but it still seems too expensive for what it is.
In summary, this is no bargain and really isn't best suited to either kind of user. To do either properly you need two bikes - anything else is a big compromise either way. I suspect that 90%+ of 'mountain bike' buyers would be better off with a road-orientated hybrid.
I'm no fan of Halfords but if you have a tight budget it's worth looking at the Carrera range when they are on some kind of offer, which is often. Decathlon offers good value too.
halfords.com/cyc…ike
It has a high quality cassette based drivetrain, disc brakes and is excellent on road and still good for light off road use. Currently on offer at £240. Don't consider the cheaper Parva that is freewheel based. Subway bikes are very strong with decent reinforcing on the frame. I think the official weight limit is 120kg plus a small allowance for luggage/accessories etc with an absolute weight limit that should never be exceeded of 160kg.
If you want a faster road bike consider a cyclocross bike like the Voodoo Limba at halfords or Lost Lad at Go Outdoors. These are racing bike style but strengthened frame and wheels with disc brakes that you can take off road. I think for most people though the Subway is the better option.
That area marked as 'spacer' on the bottom freewheel is under huge pressure to bend on the left side if you use such a bike for drops or just a heavy rider and that's exactly where it looks like your axle and quick release has broken within that area. Perfectly normal when you use a freewheel on a mountain bike and actually use that bike off road with jumps etc. When you fit a freewheel to a mountain bike it is more a mountain bike style bike rather than mountain bike. In the old days when there was no freehubs, freewheels could be a lot stronger as they were used on quite premium bikes but nowadays freewheels are entry level only. They are fit for purpose although not great on a road bike but they are completely wrong on a mountain bike.
I suspect Raleigh knew immediately what the issue was but didn't want to admit the bike wasn't really a mountain bike because it was compromised by unsuitable and weak components. Probably most customers don't use it off road or give it the abuse that would create an issue. The extra strength is only one advantage a cassette and freehub has over a freewheel there are many more.