This is not the Iphone Upgrade programme. It is also not Paypal payments nor Barclays Iphone financing. All the above are available online.
This is IPHONE PAYMENTS, and is available through Apple stores only. It is financed through Barclays but is basically the phone 0% over 20 months.
Iphone 8 64gb £31.50 a month. £69 deposit. Iphone 8 256gb £39 a month. £69 deposit Iphone 8 Plus 64gb £36.50 a month. £69 deposit. Iphone 8 Plus 256bg £44 a month. £69 deposit. Iphone X 64gb £46.50 a month £69 deposit Iphone X 256gb £54 a month £69 deposit.
Pair this with a cheap sim only deal, it will beat any carrier contract deal hands down over the term and all SIM only plans are max 12 months so free to move carrier if they are useless.
The phone is unlocked and you can use whatever carrier sim in it and change at any time.
This Iphone Payments offer is hidden away on the Apple website, my link is the upgrade program but on that page there is a link "Learn more about iphone payments) and all details are there.
Obviously it is dependent on you finding stock of the model you want instore. Please see terms on the page re documentation needed instore when attending. (as per normal credit application).
Latest comments (364)
666bandit666
6 Oct 17#364
Theres no sales tax on the $999 , the actual difference between US and Uk is about 10%
Nabeelkhuweis
6 Oct 17#363
i would say it depends if you want apple care with your phone.. if you do, I would say yes go with the upgrade programme and make sure you upgrade next year. if you are not fussed about apple care, get this. its what I am going to do as I have phone insurance with my bank. if I want to get the new one next year, it will sell for about the remainder you have to pay off your contract. sell it, pay it off and get the new one.
daxx2009
6 Oct 17#362
If i am correct you pay 2 taxes in most states in USA, example New York sales tax is 4% and state tax 4.8% so total tax is 8.8%
iPhone x is $999 + tax of £87 total to pay $1086 now convert this its to GBP its £830 a difference of £170
so if your buy in Delaware for example thee is no tax to pay so its $999 covert to GBP its £763 a difference of £236
At the end of the day if you can afford to buy the iPhone x and your an apple fan then buy it, who cares what other think its your money.
stephenw1972
30 Sep 17#361
Not strictly true as the price includes £167.00 VAT
nickmilla
30 Sep 17#360
The same offer for laptops comes and goes but I'm pretty sure you can do at least 6 months 0% with PayPal anyway?
nickmilla
30 Sep 17#359
Everyone going on about $999 vs £999. It's not $999. That is before tax! Different states have different tax rates. £999 is the price after tax in the UK. Go and spend £200 for a plane ticket to USA and buy the phone in the US if you care that much?
Rastafari
30 Sep 17#358
For Mac’s what?
phewcharyztik
30 Sep 17#357
Is this just for iPhone or can the 0% be used for Mac’s too?
Krizzo3
28 Sep 17#356
Took this out today, great if you want to bulid more credit, and also makes the „purchase” easier for some.
Not everyone will get approved, had to take out two loans for me and the gf as she got declined.
Fifster03
27 Sep 17#355
Another one who tosses around sly comments on threads when someone was just trying to help....
bore off
Fifster03
27 Sep 17#354
Thanks il take it, but the luck is not needed, I have used this law to my advantage for years.
Lefty
26 Sep 17#353
Yes ,,,, but you can get a fugly xiaomi whatever for a third of the price see!,,
danmoores1
26 Sep 17#352
People moaning about the price of the new iPhones. People spend thousands on a holiday for a week or tens of thousands on a wedding for one day. You’ll use your iPhone everyday for the next two year or however long you’ll have so work that out per day. It ain’t that much.
RikAllen
26 Sep 17#351
Another one who cherry picks the bits they want to read without understanding it....
Nabeelkhuweis
26 Sep 17#350
I was thinking the same, can I ask which you went for, and if you have the iphone yet? are you liking it?
zebz001
26 Sep 17#349
You know we're talking about mobile phones, not walkie-talkies!? For example, my Nokia cost less, is smaller, can call my mate which is hundred miles away also can play snake
electrogear
26 Sep 17#348
Apple have done this finance deal because they know full well that the phone costs FAR too much for the average person. Ooooh, let's make it "free" so you can have the nice shiny thing now and then we'll cross the 'selling your kids into slavery' bridge when we want you to start paying for it in a year's time. More often than not the debt rolls on and on and they end up paying many times more for that shiny thing they couldn't afford than they would have if they could have afforded it!!
gsusx
25 Sep 17#347
Yeah can’t argue with this. Love my SE even if my battery is on its way out
Lefty
25 Sep 17#346
Good luck with that......
Rastafari
25 Sep 17#345
Great news, when did this new law come out then? Do you have a link?
Fifster03
25 Sep 17#344
Every electrical item bought within the UK has a 6 year guarantee by law, apple state this themselves on there website.
hukd_addict
25 Sep 17#343
Glad to see people going for "cheaper" phone only deals, especially on 0%. But ... can I just say...
£1000
for a phone
....
£1000
Really??
I'm all for cutting edge tech, I bought an expensive TV and not adverse to paying out, but £1000 for a phone seems totally, utterly, insane to me.
If you don't buy them they won't sell them at this price...
madness.
DannyBres
25 Sep 17#342
It is standard, it has been available for months
John.Mason
25 Sep 17#341
Completely agree on the resale value of iPhones vs anything else. I would recommend Oregon, no sales tax and beautiful part of the world. Nice Apple store in Portland. Cannot condone evading VAT and duty though.
Obviously everyone will remember to pay there tax as they re enter the UK. i'm sure customs will be looking out for shiny Iphone X when they get released. #Risky
greenant
25 Sep 17#336
You spent money on a fancy Nokia and a tariff? My walky talkies are still going strong. Battery life is way better, call quality is ample. Text messaging is a gimmick and will never take off. And i dont have to worry if I drop it. What does your Nokia have to justify the price?
lothburn
24 Sep 17#335
lol the poor people still buy Apple ;-)
BABYJINGLIS
24 Sep 17#334
Bought my 6 on iPhone payments and didn’t require to go into store was delivered free. I’m lucky my store is only 3 miles away! If you’re on a cheap sim only deal best way to go. Will wait for all the fuss to die down as my 6 still going strong with iOS 11.
Shame they don't have faith in the product enough to warranty it for more than 12 months....
chavdar
24 Sep 17#331
i will waiting for christmas offers i’m sure that the prive will smash, or if bot iPhone 7 will be cheap as hell ;
crazygoldfish
24 Sep 17#330
Heat for the deal if you are stupid enough to give them them the cash for an iPhone these days
Georgeharris1982
24 Sep 17#329
Iripoff
Rastafari
24 Sep 17#328
Why do people keep coming on recycling the same old comments? This is characteristic of today’s society. Everybody want to talk but nobody wants to listen.
Hero878
24 Sep 17#327
Sales TAX in the USA is no where near 20% more like 10% at most
gunner5704
24 Sep 17#326
Probably you're right. But where was that tax for previous iphone models?
westernise
24 Sep 17#325
A fool and his money are soon parted comes to mind!
westernise
24 Sep 17#324
What's the world coming to..? Donald Trump and now this - eye-watering £1k for a mobile phone!
sats1987
24 Sep 17#323
yes it will cost the same £999
sats1987
24 Sep 17#322
they always match the uk price with the us price
skinrush
24 Sep 17#321
Another android enthusiast by any chance??
tjc2005
24 Sep 17#320
Ridiculous
ansarch
24 Sep 17#319
Cracking deal but does this not tell us that apple products are not selling so it's apple's desperate attempt to get rid of its stocks??
zebz001
24 Sep 17#318
Amazing what money people can spend on device that suppose to make and receive calls and text messages. My Nokia 6610i still going strong. Battery life is way better, call quality is great and I don't have to worry if I drop it! What does this phone have to justify the price? Even from the previous versions
Ohms12
24 Sep 17#317
Does anyone know if you can put down a higher deposit? (therefore reducing monthlies)
tomeks85
24 Sep 17#316
you can start from yourself, Your comment is neither useful nor interesting.
bukton
24 Sep 17#315
Does it make sense to pay that amount for a phone? If you do, get an insurance. That is another added cost. Either way, consider being an I-muppet!
Rastafari
23 Sep 17#314
You realise that’s just the phone, right? Paying for it over 24 months. £32 x 24 = £768 for a 32gb iPhone 8 Plus. Subject to you also getting a SIM card from Sky, which starts at £5 a month for 500mb a month. So add at least £120 on top of the £768 for the phone.
I’ve no idea why you seem to be under the impression that Sky’s iPhone prices also include an unlimited everything SIM. If only that were true!
Jmcgov1111
23 Sep 17#313
Rastafari
23 Sep 17#312
Where are the details of this magical tariff where everything is free
Jmcgov1111
23 Sep 17#311
Go to sky mobile get iPhone 8 Plus for £32 a month no upfront payment plus if you are already with them don’t pay anything for calls or texts or data
subujoseph
23 Sep 17#310
Eotris
23 Sep 17#309
To all the posters replying to my initial comment about sales tax and pointing out that it is <20% in US states, I thought I had made it clearer in my follow-up post.
My point is that Apple itself is not really ‘ripping us off’ on the iPhone X pricing in the UK as much as many people think*.
1. US pricing does not include sales tax; UK pricing includes sales tax (VAT).
2. Local currency markets have to be accounted for.
Apple do not set either of the above, so they should be ‘factored’ out.
*in fact, Apple have set the iPhone X price in the UK the same as the US, if you EXCLUDE sales taxes AND assume the historically lowest local exchange rate. (They would actually LOSE profit in the UK if the £ falls below the $1.20 mark).
charliemike
23 Sep 17#308
Well said...Rich Kid
dickypreston
23 Sep 17#307
Shame it’s in store only nearest one is pretty far from me
skinrush
23 Sep 17#306
It's a shame that only about 25% of the comments in this thread are useful or interesting.
It would be good if people that are interested in Samsung/Google/LG/Sony/HTC/Motorola phones or the countless cheap Gearbest supplied Chinese equivalents commented on those threads instead.
Being called lemmings or sheep, won't stop people 'with more money than sense' from buying products that are very useful and reliable for more money than similar android versions.
neil108
23 Sep 17#305
can you do this on the new watch?
musicman
23 Sep 17#304
You are right regarding US prices don’t include sales tax, but you are some way off with your estimate. US sales tax rates are no more than 10% by average, so it’s more of a rip off than you suggest.
johnmcdon
23 Sep 17#303
This is excellent advice
andiejn
23 Sep 17#302
Does it come with Lemmings pre-installed, or do you only get to play that for real?
superleeds27
23 Sep 17#301
Nearest Apple store is 60 miles away and they don't even have anything in stock.
Be easier if you could do it online and the item ships direct
OrribleHarry
23 Sep 17#300
Oh I understand but your maths is still flawed.
Eotris
22 Sep 17#299
My maths is correct; your understanding is flawed - see my later comment, as it may make my point easier for you to understand.
OrribleHarry
22 Sep 17#298
US sales tax averages about 5% your maths is shocking UK price includes VAT.
RealBargainHunter
22 Sep 17#297
Supply & Demand! Over £1000 for a poxy mobile phone, that’s barely used most of the day, what a joke. Still love my iPhone 6s but I’m not upgrading my phone until it’s unusable, what’s the point nothing much seems to change anymore, they’re all out of true innovative ideas. It might seem like some sci-fi stuff but holographic communication isthe future, hopefully not too far away.
voodoomox
22 Sep 17#296
You can still reserve under the upgrade programme and ask for iPhone payments. They are more than happy to offer me when I was there.
mustangt
22 Sep 17#295
£69 upfront on all the new iPhones.
Definitely have some heat for 69 :wink: :wink: :wink:
dorothyhoggarth
22 Sep 17#294
Not buying just a good place to hear the voice about iPhones this time x
similitude
22 Sep 17#293
It is iPhone Upgrade programme :thinking: available in UK Apple Stores from 23.09
CABellamy
22 Sep 17#292
Ah of course! I knew there must have been something I was missing. Thanks for confirming. They should really make it more clear that you're getting applecare built in to the package.
CABellamy
22 Sep 17#291
Educate yourself. The iPhone uses a secure enclave where your security data (fingerprints, face scan) is stored inside. It is not possible to get this information out, only overwrite. It would be like complaining that a website that stores your password as an MD5 salted hash would be able to expose your password because they store the hash. Complete nonsense. It's one way and one way for a reason.
silver145
22 Sep 17#290
I presume you live under the local bridge? - Why? Because it puts a roof over your head and its a fraction of the cost. I presume you wear roller skates? - Why? Because it gives you wheels to get about and its a fraction of the cost. I presume you were bin bags as clothing? - Why? Because it provides you with clothing and its a fraction of the cost. I presume you walk to the local mecca bingo for a holiday? - Why? Because it provides you with alllll the GILF's you could need and its a fraction of the cost of mexico.
Same old tired rhetoric on hotukdeals and most of it comes down to "i dont have the free cash to be able to buy that so its obviously a negative that others should not either"
I cant afford a tub of ben and jerry's but to those who can i still wish you a good day.
Good day sir!
granitesilver
22 Sep 17#289
Iphone X £1149 ÷ 20 mths = £57.45 per month £57.45 ÷ 30 days = £1.91 per day. If you can afford it get it, if not don't.
bigbak
22 Sep 17#288
Yawn. I'm not entitled to an opinion then?
I own an iPad.Upgraded to iOS 11. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. My phone does everything I need it to at the fraction of the cost. Who said I was excited?
eddibabyyeah
22 Sep 17#287
Exactly. Some people must be very bored if they are prepared to read 8 pages about a phone, just to put in 1 sarcastic comment because they have a different opinion to the OP.
skinrush
22 Sep 17#286
That would depend on whether you think that you'll want to upgrade in one year's time.
If not, iPhone payments is the much better option.
islamkhan97
22 Sep 17#285
For people who are actually thinking about getting one of the new iPhones (and not just bashing the prices on this thread) would you say go with the iPhone Upgrade Program or iPhone Payments? Looking @ the 8 Plus 256GB, the IUP is £51.45 and the iPhone Payments is £44?
skinrush
22 Sep 17#284
That just an apple iPhone feature is it ??? Or do you think that is maybe all phones, technology products, cars etc ???
greenant
22 Sep 17#283
Never understood the mentality of someone who spends time in a thread which doesnt interest them just to say they don't want to buy it. Android, a freebie knockoff OS from an advertising company which ripped off BB followed by ripping off iOS, added 99% of the viruses and scams, fragmented OS with under 10% on the latest features (vs 90% on iOS), is hardly something to get excited about.
greenant
22 Sep 17#282
What did you expect from the Apple event, then
AshleyMiddleton
22 Sep 17#281
My favourite apple iPhone feature is "Planned Obsolescence"!
jambone
22 Sep 17#280
I agree, 1.5% in the bank for 20 months would be £25 - I wont turn my nose up at that. It's just that credit deals inherently attract people that can't afford to pay off all at once. However, If someone wants to pay £1000 for a phone and keeps the money somewhere ready to pay back in 20 months then this is a great deal for them. Unfortunately I don't think that applies to the masses though.
smshuk
22 Sep 17#279
Has anyone had experience if this financing works with pre-orders? Can I, for example, pre-order the phone at 8:01am on October 27th online and get to the Apple Store on November 3rd to do paperwork and collect it?
chrismc20050
21 Sep 17#278
did nobody read small print about apple Care- Screen is £25 extra, everything else is £79 excess
With AppleCare+ included, you get up to two years of hardware repairs, software support, and coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage, each subject to an excess fee of £25 for screen replacement or £79 for any other damage
chrismc20050
21 Sep 17#277
Not paying £1000 for overhyped phone is a better deal. its done like this to hide fact it will cost £1000+ over the payment plan.
DAZZ2000
21 Sep 17#276
Usually the best time is after a skinful of beer...it'll numb the pain somewhat :wink:
DAZZ2000
21 Sep 17#275
I've not read every single comment on this thread so apologies if someone has already raised the same concern.
i have a slight issue with the Op's decision to quote "£46.50" for this "deal". From what I can see this relates to one phone option which is £46.50 / month for 20 months. A quick calc in my head here but that's £930 I believe?
so surely the clearest indicator to others is that this is the total not this singular £46.50 payment?
This just smacks of not wanting to quote the total price because it's RRP and therefore wouldn't attract much heat!
Edit: even worse there's a £69 deposit to factor in to so £999. So the Hotukdeals "Buy for £46.50" link above is even further from being accurate.
I can't give this any heat for that reason
fiestasteve44
21 Sep 17#274
Rofl
adhoward
21 Sep 17#273
There is no VAT in the states, UK Prices include VAT so difference is smaller than you think
andysmoore
21 Sep 17#272
Ah right, I, wrongly, assumed that where it said available without apple care, actually meant the upgrade plan was available without it. Slightly misleading.
Do you think they'd let me upgrade from that plan to this one? Fancy the X, but not paying £56 a month for it. £46 is about the same as what I'm currently paying.
manbearpig
21 Sep 17#271
Because 99% of peoples incomes haven't increased since 2007...
Rastafari
21 Sep 17#270
Ok love
Nogi
21 Sep 17#269
I don't normally Down vote deals on the basis of not agreeing with the products Worth instead of the specifics of the deal in question. BUT ill make an exception here, Apple is taking advantage of UK users and prices in general on their tech. Always been the same with Apple. I have a MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 7 and ill probably get a X at some point but this is not a good deal.
Aaronnnn
21 Sep 17#268
When it is released
sweet_princess7866
21 Sep 17#267
Be careful to all those looking forward to upgrading to such new technology where you are paying to give your privacy away.. first finger prints..then eye retina and face scans.. think about it people..!
sam_of_london
21 Sep 17#266
When can I buy Iphone x ?
steven789
21 Sep 17#265
Anywhere you can get interest fee payment plans from? Apple only showing for the 8 now
dannyboy20
21 Sep 17#264
The price you quoted includes Apple Care + and the ability to upgrade after 11 months.
The 256gb 8 Plus is £44 a month with a £69 deposit without the above.... which is £949 = 0% interest free.
CABellamy
21 Sep 17#263
What I can't seem to work out is how this is 0%. Take for example you want to buy a 256GB iPhone 8 Plus. To buy outright it's 949.00. This offer requires an upfront payment of £69, then 20 monthly payments of £52.45 which totals £1,118 that's 17% more expensive than buying outright. There's definitely a finance charge there, which I work out as 2.75% APR. Apple state it is a 0% offer but then charge you more for it? Why not just be upfront about it? Surely this is false advertising. Can somebody explain to me how this works because the raw numbers just don't add up.
deany76
21 Sep 17#262
I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 8 is the most tested, pre-release, electrical device ever made.
skinrush
21 Sep 17#261
A number of people keep mentioning Samsung's standard 2 year warranty in comparison to apple's 1 year.
That's the very least that company should offer given their exploding note 7 situation. Even with a 2 year warranty, I wouldn't trust hardware from Samsung. I had 2 galaxy s3's that overheated back in the day and turned themselves off.
Aaronnnn
21 Sep 17#260
Not much, vodafone are offering 15% discount if you work for specific companies. EE are offering 20% to students.
Bossworld
21 Sep 17#259
Are many networks offering discounts this time out? (Admittedly I've not researched at this point but sometimes if you can get an employee discount it can work out cheaper).
I'm coming to the end of my 6S (which to be honest, at the time I was fairly staggered to see a deal in the first month as they never used to discount on the cheaper tarriffs - £31 a month for the 64GB and 3GB data/unltd everything else).
From the looks of it, O2 Refresh is basically just paying the phone off for 24 months and I could probably get a cheaper sim only (much the same technique as described on this deal).
Remember the early 2000s when the phone cost was truly subsidised? Guess the networks are a little knackered given that people aren't texting or calling as much as they used to, and the only way they can try and recoup the cash is to charge massive amounts for data.
DemonIT
21 Sep 17#258
Some people may not be as informed as you.
Given that this is the cheapest way to obtain a SIM Free iPhone X, I'd say it's a deal and one worth posting for those who didn't know.
DemonIT
21 Sep 17#257
We already did this, above. Plenty of 0% locations to fly to. I wasn't suggesting anyone actually do it, just pointing out the ridiculousness of the difference in price between US and UK
AliSattar
21 Sep 17#256
It is standard.. i have been buying iphones on 0% finance since iphone 6 times.. and my friend who told me this bought his 5s i guess ages ago through apple 0% finance powered by Barclays.. its instore and online both..
suarez777
21 Sep 17#255
Could be 0% sales tax, depends where he flies.
Daaaavvveee
21 Sep 17#254
You understand you need to add on Sales tax yes?
deany76
21 Sep 17#253
The "new Psion 5" with Mobile capability - 'Gemini' planetcom.co.uk/ will be around £500 when launched in December. The X should be £799.00 not £999 the iPhone 8 is really an incremental upgrade iPhone 7 S
ben1979
21 Sep 17#252
Mine was more a poke of fun, but your reply helps prove my underlying point. The Psion 5 (a tech hall of famer in my eyes!), was a PDA, where are the calls etc. So even that is not a comparable item. But, based purely on the governments own inflation calculator, the £499 Psion is worth £833.43 in todays money. Now that is a more realistic comparison!
In fact, using the same calculator demonstrates that your £699 iphone 6 that you purchased in 2014 is £718 in todays money. More expensive than the new 64gb iphone 8, which has crammed more tech in! Go figure (no pun intended!)
deany76
21 Sep 17#251
One point worth noting Xiaomi reduce prices substantially on reaching target sales. Also Samsung, if you have say a iPhone 6 they will give you £250 towards a S8 or S8+ with a standard Samsung.24 month Warranty.
bigbak
21 Sep 17#250
I'd never buy an Apple handset. Android all the way.
The prices aren't help by how badly the pound is doing at the moment. Not going to point any fingers.
ezzer72
21 Sep 17#249
I can't understand how one single person in the whole world will buy an iPhone 8/8+
It really is the old model/poor relation the day it comes out, bizarre situation.
Utakos
21 Sep 17#248
I really liked the look of the iPhone X but not at £999, I'm just going to wait for this essential.com/ for when it comes to the UK later this year.
nolanj3
21 Sep 17#247
Definitely would not go with the X lacking touch id, that feature for purchases is pretty convenient. I’d upgrade to the 8 if i needed it but my 6s works fine
deany76
21 Sep 17#246
You cant compare hotel room cost 30 years ago to tech cost.
A Psion Series 5 was £499 when laucnced in 1997 20 years ago, this is a better comparison. The "Gemini" will be around £500 when launched in December planetcom.co.uk/
You could also use the Big Mac index, many analysts do- so a £2.95 2014 Big Mac would now cost £4.19 based on iPhone 6 to iphone X price increase in 3 years.
eddibabyyeah
21 Sep 17#245
Whatever your opinion about apple and whether the 8 or X is good value or not is sort of irrelevant. This deal is the best way of getting the device. If you compare this deal side by side with with a pay monthly offer, this is way cheaper. I am currently with three, so I have done a comparison with them, as follows based on iphone 8 64GB
Buy phone from apple on 20 months @ £31.50 * 20 + £69 = £699 Three Advanced plan 12GB data £14 per month * 24 months = £336 Total cost over two years is £1035. This includes phone & 2 years data, calls and texts
or
Get the phone on a two year contract from three on the same tariff as above for £55 per month + £79 Upfront =£1399 over two years
Total saving by getting the device from apple is £364 over two years. Which is £15 per month.
Darthchaffinch
21 Sep 17#244
Are all options expired?
ben1979
21 Sep 17#243
Yeah, and the average room rate for a hotel in Florida 30 years ago was $19, today it is $237, that's a 1300% increase, so it's not inconceivable to think then, that in another 30 years, a week in a hotel could cost you $20k!
Sounds ridiculous doesn't it, as does your rhetoric!
Also, heat to anyone that get's the reference!
iDealYou
21 Sep 17#242
Ah OK. I thought you meant Manchester, California. :blush:
southlegend
21 Sep 17#241
Woah, don't show rational behaviour here mate - the "waste of money/get a nokia 3310/finance is evil" brigade will be camped out on your driveway in no time xD
ben1979
21 Sep 17#240
I remember the days when you did have to! £40 a month for a Philips Fizz with 20 mins of free calls a month! Before the days of internet on your phone! 20 years ago!
An argument could be had for it 'only' being £40, but when people can and do do an awful lot on their mobile phones, without the need to own a laptop? You can understand why the prices are as they are! The poor exchange rate hasn't helped either, and apple aren't the only ones to have adjusted prices due to this. However, if you want a phone to make calls, send texts, a little bit of browsing/social media etc? Then people are looking in the wrong place! Just my two-pennies worth.
For me, this deal is hot, apple never normally hit out lengthy terms on 0% finance. It's not for me, as I am more than happy with my current daily driver (iphone 7 256gb).
deany76
21 Sep 17#239
my, plenty of GB 6, is like walking through treacle. I'm not upgrading to iOS 11 I don't want my phone to being unusable, I know the merry-go-round apple are playing here to capitalise on upgrade revenue. Macs last longer than two or three years why not iPhones
liamwba1
21 Sep 17#238
Indeed, the most expensive MacBook Air is cheaper than the most expensive iPhone X. Different being, the Air is capable of running applications other than Snapchat. Madness.
liamwba1
21 Sep 17#237
This ^^ the software running on these phones does not require powerful hardware to run. At this stage anything over a 6/6s really is a waste of money.
ezzer72
21 Sep 17#236
This really isn’t true, it’s pretty much an urban legend.
As I’ve mentioned previously, I have a top spec Android phone, and a top spec iPad - they both perform equally and fantastically well. Although the App Store may have more apps available, hundreds of thousands of them are just ‘filler’, all useful and popular apps are available on both platforms, each with equally impressive functionality.
deany76
21 Sep 17#235
I paid £699.00 in Sept 2014 for my 128GB iphone 6 The iPhone X at £999.00 represents a 42.92% increase in 3 years over my model. I know there is new tech inside but the.increase i outrageous.
Based on this the base model iPhone 2020 will be approx £1400!!!! we are moving into Macbook Pro territory
ps I notice the OP and the apple screenshotdoes not include the cost, ie £46.50 PM sounds better that putting £999.00 etc
mattsk
21 Sep 17#234
It's still more regardless of currency exchange .... Also apple does not reduce prices until new product release so as the time passes and manufacturing is less expensive they earn even more ... See the problem here ?
philnwl
21 Sep 17#233
Apple are one of the few companies which actually can increase sales of their products by increasing prices . Apple is an aspirational brand and the iPhone X has some seriously cutting edge tech inside mainly around face recognition and AR ( Augmented reality) The Apple hardware and software work seamlessly together compared to Android and the quality of App Store and apps is far superior to android. Yes the iPhone X is expensive compared to other flagship phones but as an iPhone 6 owner this is the time to upgrade for me. I absolutely recommend buying he phone either on 0% with a sim only or so the upgrade program which is in effect also 0% over 20 months with AppleCare included. Network 24 month deals are a rip off . You will end up paying at least £200 or more in hidden interest on these deals on average on a flagship phone. My final advice is also wait at least a month or so before buying to avoid first production units. Often first production run units will have manufacturing defects and issues which get ironed out on second and then third production runs. I personally will wait until New Year to but the X . I hope this helps some people . 3 are doing some very competitive SO deals right now too.
CM52MUZ
21 Sep 17#232
Is it cheaper to buy in another place other than the UK? Yes it is. That's the whole point of the above discussion so I'm not sure what your statement has to do with anything?
deany76
21 Sep 17#231
I think its near on impossible to prove fault was present on day one (unless there has been a 'recall').
Without sounding like a parrot, these iPhones need a standard apple 24month warranty, appleCare adding a year if purchased- making a 3 year warranty.
Apple wont do it as they make a fortune from appleCare, and 2nd year "out of warranty repair" revenue,plus iOS slows down dramatically on year 2 to 3 with updates, ensuring that folks have to buy new iPhone
ezzer72
21 Sep 17#230
Haha, fair point :smile:
I wasn’t particularly intending to boast, I was simply trying to demonstrate that I am kinda qualified to say iPhones are not very good, rather than just having that opinion because they were out of my reach, which I appreciate will be the case for some of the complainers
mattsk
21 Sep 17#229
Some us states are tax free eg Washington, florida etc
killerferret
21 Sep 17#228
I really considered the iphone X, but in the end got the Samsung S8 and saved myself £500. In all honesty I installed a series of apps to make it look like an iphone
same lock screen same icons / docking bar same notifier same quick swipe for settings same noises Same Keyboard ability to swipe back from the left like in safari
It made the phone look dated and in some cases harder to use. so this is what I did;
same lock screen - took it off back to android same icons / docking bar - took it off, made the phone look very dated same notifier - again removed and stuck with android, looks slicker same quick swipe for settings - removed, but used an app to swipe up, Android one had more quick touch settings and can customise same noises - kept Same keyboard - kept ability to swipe back from the left like in safari - kept and i can swipe back in any app, an improvement!
What i'm saying is Android has apps to do everything that iOS does, you just have to install an app. I've always been an apple fan but after having the phone for a few days, I know it was the right move such a difference.
I agree with what most have said ive always had an iphone, but its not ahead of the game anymore. Android has caught up.
s24adm
21 Sep 17#227
Just like any credit deal, it's great for those that are responsible - why pay it all up front when you could pay it off monthly at 0% and have that extar cash sitting in a high interest savings account in the mean time? There are always those that think oh I can afford £40 per month... just, then get into trouble a few months in - the thing is if there weren't people like this to make profit for the banks, there would be no 0% deals for the rest of us.
jr007
21 Sep 17#226
The flip up menu for WiFi/brightness etc is easier to use. Still a bit buggy but my 7 plus is working pretty fast. Battery is ok. Colours are different and text/icons are sharper.
To be honest I don’t know what the big deal is.
haidfitch
21 Sep 17#225
£1000 for a phone... on finance. Doesn't sound like much of a deal? At least you've caught up with 2015 tech though eh? :wink:
s24adm
21 Sep 17#224
It IS standard, they did this for the iPhone 7 too - it's just another payment option.
ezzer72
21 Sep 17#223
In iOS11, not a lot! It’s only a slight enhancement over the old iCloud button/app at the moment :disappointed:
skinrush
21 Sep 17#222
Wow! There are lots of judgmental folk on here...
People have choice and this is a democracy.
If you don't want to buy a £1000 phone, that's up to you, but suggesting that others are somehow mentally unstable for choosing to do so, makes you incapable of seeing different perspectives.
Presumably, you also think people that buy omega watches and jaguar cars are also insane... Particular brands cost particular money.
HotUKDealSeeker
21 Sep 17#221
Heat for showing me how rediculously expensive an iPhone is. I won't buy one now. Thanks!
slannmage
21 Sep 17#220
Can see your files locally
colin10086
21 Sep 17#219
The 2 year EU law applies in the UK but we have even better protection, although neither are as good as the standard warranty as you have to prove the device was faulty at the point of sale.
Apple have a link to warranty information from every page of their website, and the stores are fully aware too. apple.com/uk/…ty/
samspud
21 Sep 17#218
They are right. You may have to wait a couple of days then!
samspud
21 Sep 17#217
No as u can only do 0% in store anyway - u need to go into store to check stock
iamprobably
21 Sep 17#216
Keep buying those phones peeps...
Shares in apple done really well over the last 3 years!
wakeywarrior
21 Sep 17#215
God, there are some isheep on here. These people are exactly why Apple can just keep upping the margin, and overcharging UK customers. If the supposed justification for the price matching $ to £ is real justification, why hasn’t it been done on all the other products? The reason is Apple thinks a starting price under £1000 will wash with isheep. Analysts are already saying the margin on this phone is huge. Great for me, my pension holds Apple shares as isheep push it to the first 1 trillion dollar company.
19DembaBa19
21 Sep 17#214
What does a file browser do
telboy69
21 Sep 17#213
What a waste of money.Still glad to see there are plenty of gullible idiots out there.
mcspence
21 Sep 17#212
Can you buy multiple on this deal? Or is there a limit? Looking to upgrade the whole family to the X. We’re all on the iPhone 6 currently
19DembaBa19
21 Sep 17#211
Since your advertising everything you have you might as well write your address down so a thief can pay you a visit and take all your lovely apple products.
muckspreader1
21 Sep 17#210
username5026
21 Sep 17#209
By selling my old phone. Getting a cheap sim and buying on balance transfer I’ll be paying £44 a month for 2 yrs for my iPhone X.
DemonIT
21 Sep 17#208
Wow, Paranoia, lucky you've got that Apple Watch to keep and eye on that heart rate of yours...maybe check out Qardio, too
I'm not sure why you took my comment as being directed at you and felt the need to defend yourself? I was (as mentioned) referring to individuals coming into an iPhone thread, ridiculing the new iPhone's price and referring to their Android devices as a better buy? If you were one of those trolls, then I didn't notice?!
You did however ignore, or misunderstand, what I was saying about price vs. cost and then effectively call anyone who pays £1149 for an iPhone "stupid". Sorry to say that when you say that it makes YOU look like the child.
f3rgy15
21 Sep 17#207
Its not 0%... its loaded into the over inflated monthly payments. £1k? Damn
machomansavage
21 Sep 17#206
People who would pay a grand for a phone need their head seen too
deany76
21 Sep 17#205
As we pass 1000 degrees for a £1000 phone with a 365 day warrant.....
I've never heard of EU 2 year rule and I think apple Genius would laugh in ones face. I found this on google but its 8years ago! thisismoney.co.uk/mon…tml
jambone
21 Sep 17#204
Though this probably works out cheaper than buying a phone contract with phone included, as the OP suggests (which technically does make it a good deal compared to the exact same elsewhere) - I simply cannot vote hot on a deal that promotes consumer credit like this.
There is a huge consumer debt bubble forming so don't think people who can't, or are close to not being able to afford this should put themselves in that position. Obviously this will make financial sense for some - Just make good long term financial decisions guys and buy within your means.
GiorgioDelGrosso
21 Sep 17#203
Most states are 6-8% sales tax, not 20
jambone
21 Sep 17#202
True. But being pedantic Sales tax in the USA varies from state to state and the max is around 10%, lowest is Zero :relaxed:
umz73
21 Sep 17#201
I get this message "We’re no longer taking reservations to buy iPhone right now."...does this mean I cannot get the 0% offer ? :thinking:
husna2000
21 Sep 17#200
Not worth it
will13
21 Sep 17#199
A grand for a phone. Wtf is the world coming to. I bet most iPhone users support Labour and bang on about equality etc. Buy a £200 phone and subscribe to the Red Cross instead for two years. PFF, yes, I know y'all will hate me for saying that. PS not voted either way of course.
famosa_belle
20 Sep 17#198
This actually makes the phone affordable
mr.zoli
20 Sep 17#197
How is this a deal? You still end up buying an overpriced mobile phone for a £1000.. It's just stupidity
stuellis
20 Sep 17#196
My biggest issue with this is you need to add the cost of insuring your phone. If you don't what happens if your phone is lost/stolen/damaged early into the repayment plan, you end up with months of payments and needing to buy another phone.
elbs
20 Sep 17#195
inaccurate and rather misleading post.
not a single state in USA has a 20% tax, only the UK has a 20% rate. in USA it ranges from 0% in some states to a max of around 10% in a few select states (these are combined state + highest local rates). and the average across USA as a whole is 6.52%.
using this average of 6.52% = $1065 / £783 (average price of iphone X in USA)
so £783 (USA) vs £999 (UK) is a more accurate comparison - and a clearer illustration of the rip-off
Tutankhamark
20 Sep 17#194
Ok great, that's really helpful. Thanks!
Maybe if you're still hesitant you can wait a month or two to see the first impressions and let others discover any issues with it then go for it if you're still happy. Or if you really love it, just go for it now haha!
itsLJP
20 Sep 17#193
For sure? I spoke with 3 separate Apple employees via live chat who all said I could only get it in store with no way of reserving outside of the store. I'd be very happy to find out otherwise as I can't see myself camping outside the store to grab the phone on launch...
markkelly10004694
20 Sep 17#192
So...the new phone is faster than the last, just the innovation we really need isn't it as we were all grumbling about how slow our o/s and games were? I don't use CAD or rendering on a phone so it's all just a numbers game to detract from a disappointing unveiling. And wireless charging...great..just a couple of years late to the party then. Apple used to innovate and you can't tell me facial recognition emojis are the leap we're looking for. Seems to me like apple are chasing the pack now when it comes to tech, every function (tiny bezel, larger form factor, wireless charging) is announced like apple just ripped it off their R&D bench and proclaimed this great leap to the world, when other manufacturers had it on the market. Apples market share will continue to fall while they roll out old tech at a premium price. £1k for a phone?? They'll still be shouting about a new phone jack while Samsung are making foldable screens...
craigrathbone
20 Sep 17#191
Why do people always bang on about UK vs US prices, they DO NOT include tax... whereas we include a massive 20% onto all our prices before purchase
Why is this difficult to understand?
iAmLegendFam
20 Sep 17#190
Can anyone afford to not have it on finance?
Seriously though, hated Apple for years and nothing will ever change.
yohanson
20 Sep 17#189
This is just the Apple Upgrade Programme without AppleCare+. This was available last year when I purchased the iPhone 7. I always go with AppleCare as you are covered. Broken screen repair £25 up to 3 times, non AppleCare £178 support.apple.com/en-…age
goldust
20 Sep 17#188
If you buy one in Louisiana you can claim your tax back as a tourist :sunglasses:
Just need to pay for the flight to New Orleans now...
rodman
20 Sep 17#187
Already did.
fishmaster
20 Sep 17#186
Not all at once :wink:
bestbuy123
20 Sep 17#185
It already has the 7 plus was 699 now it's 669 the 7 has also gone down
darrengee
20 Sep 17#184
What is world coming too! Waste of money how ever long you get too pay!
spinks
20 Sep 17#183
It is but it isn’t. This is the same minus Apple care. Therefore Apple will not entertain the 12 month upgrade. You’re stuck with the phone for 20months battery degrading and all sorts. If this is your route pay the extra and join the upgrade option proper. Change after 12 months. Or take out extra policy with protect my bubble etc.
Rob_Quads
20 Sep 17#182
Good deal IMO the problem will be getting an iPhone X in store. I expect they will be massively limit or not available at all to start with
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#181
soon!
seabs
20 Sep 17#180
It comes with the EarPods with a Lightning Connector, so there's no need for an adapter (although one is also included in the box for those wanting a 3.5mm connector).
Still not worth £999 though.
ezzer72
20 Sep 17#179
I don't know what that 'test' proves to be honest, in the real world at least.
I have just upgraded from a 9.7" iPad Pro to a 10.5" Pro, and it's DEFINTELY NOT twice as fast.
Cristiano
20 Sep 17#178
The iPhone X doesn't even come with the wireless headphones. So it comes with the standard earbuds and the adapter as it doesn't have a jack. Poor considering its the flagship and £1k.
steven789
20 Sep 17#177
When should the 7 come down in price?
118luke
20 Sep 17#176
Completely wrong.
The iPhone 8 & X are the fastest phones ever produced by a long shot. Fact. (A painful truth for Samsung fanboys) And thats with less RAM and less cores than Samsung S8 - so they must be doing something right.
Even the ancient iPhone SE beats the S8 on some tests. The S8 is only just faster than the iPhone 7. So the X is well and truely into the flagship phone range.
ezzer72
20 Sep 17#175
Tim Cook?
indywooda
20 Sep 17#174
Aware of that but it’s Android and won’t ever compete successfully, needs to come from genuine mainstream PC equivalents hence Microsoft or Apple, Microsoft didn’t perfect their offering (fingers crossed for surface phone) that leaves Apple, its just a matter of time - thing is it cannibalises profit that’s what’s holding this back, until the £1500 iPhone arrives .... which is inevitable
restrictive
20 Sep 17#173
The upgrade programme is not available without apple care
Been like that from day one.
Theres never been one without the apple care, Non apple care option is the payment plan which doesnt include the upgrade feature.
andysmoore
20 Sep 17#172
Anyone know how much apple will charge to replace the screen on iPhone X without apple care?
Rastafari
20 Sep 17#171
I’m waiting for a perfectly fine o2 refresh.
crazy_b
20 Sep 17#170
Mines done, seems to have speeded up key board seems far better at accuracy hitting the keys. Battery flying down lol. It’s turned on all background app refresh and you can now have that only on WiFi. Seems good to me. Messaging few changes and control centre you can set up yourself add what you want. Few other things. Might as well get used to it as the x will be on it anywha
andysmoore
20 Sep 17#169
You could with the 7. I bottled it though. Don't know if I should upgrade or just hang on to my 7+. The X is appealing. But 1k? And the X-2 will probably have a underscreen touch id. They wanted it for the X but ran out of time. Apparently.
crazy_b
20 Sep 17#168
What house can you buy for £54 a month?
Cakeboy79
20 Sep 17#167
It's actually more of a rip off than you quote as sales tax varies by state. NY has a sales tax of just under 9%, but New Hampshire has no sales tax so it is a straight conversion. Whether or not the prices there are to counter this I don't know, but I doubt it
plewis00
20 Sep 17#166
Yes you're quite right now I've looked, thanks. I don't think you could with the 7. Or at least they didn't make it obvious you could; I guess potentially breaking a phone in month 1-2 and then having to pay another 18 months of it might really blow
crazy_b
20 Sep 17#165
It’s uk tax at 20% also. I worked it out £929
restrictive
20 Sep 17#164
You reserve it and then they'll run the credit check in store, if you pass then you pay the upfront and youre good to go.
If you don't then you'll have the option to leave it or buy it at full price sim free.
Then process is pretty painless, did it for my 7 last year.
Now I'm having moments of madness's and thinking of doing it for the X, and maybe selling the 7 and paying off my current one.
But this time if I did get one even though I'm leaning towards not currently, definitely will be keeping it for a minimum 20 Montha.
ezzer72
20 Sep 17#163
I love the majority of Apple products, I currently own;
10.5" Cellular iPad Pro (just made better by iOS11, for those asking) 13" MacBook Pro Retina 12" MacBook Retina 27" iMac Top spec Mac mini Airpods And lots of other accessories, Pencil, Superdrive etc.
But here's the thing - iPhones are terrible.
I always go with Android flagships, my current one is a HTC U11 and it's totally fantastic, it really is.
I managed to pick it up brand new for just £440 (but would still highly recommend it at it's £649 RRP) and I have a SIM only unlimited/unlimited/18GB EE contract with EE @ £16.99.
So, using the 24m calculation, phone and contract equates to £35.32 per month.
Apple openly admit that iPhone brings in 64% of their profits, so thanks all for supporting the Company that make my fantastic non-phone tech products - they couldn't do it without you!
You can get the upgrade program without apple care. And if you don't want to upgrade you can just carry on paying for the phone. For 8 more months. Same as this.
Seems very similar if not the same. Actually, the upgrade program would be better as you get the option to upgrade. Options are good.
suarez777
20 Sep 17#159
Samsung Dex does that quite well. Google it
suarez777
20 Sep 17#158
However if you buy iPhone X, the phone wont look out of date for another 3 years at least.
While the iPhone 8 looks out of date already and its not even out yet.
ezzer72
20 Sep 17#157
They will have to pay every penny of collected VAT straight to 'the VATman'...the thing these kind of corporations try to dodge is corporation tax, a different thing altogether.
restrictive
20 Sep 17#156
Did for this for my iPhone 7 last year.
I like the X but cant justify it plus the fact i feel forced to get the 256 since they removed the 128GB.
I dont currently pay for my sim, so I'd only pay the £54 for at least the next 6 months but still hmm.
Decisions.
fiestasteve44
20 Sep 17#155
No problem glad it has helped someone out.
villians1984
20 Sep 17#154
Phones a phone right? £1000 for a phone is a joke! I could buy a laptop, iPhone 4 or 5, a car and a weeks shop for that
Trevisparky
20 Sep 17#153
Prices are getting ridiculous bring back the red phone boxes.
jay_v
20 Sep 17#152
No matter what one says, Apple just wants to ripp off their UK customers sighting reasons like protection currency fluctuation and all. Are they going to refund if £ appreciates? Double standards... protection against £ going down, but will happily keep the profit if it does not go down or appreciates! Really?
If they are so worried about currency fluctuation, they should start accepting $ payments in UK Apple stores. I will be more than happy to pay in $ and take whatever conversion rate my card company or PayPal offers me.
asiot
20 Sep 17#151
The only thing premium about iphones is the price tag, as far as smartphones in general go they're slap bang mid range
Splutterbug
20 Sep 17#150
Voting hot as for those that want one now. But I would say check out iOS11 on your current phone first. I was thinking I might need an upgrade this year from the iPhone 6 as it was getting very slow but it’s a lot faster since I updated and I’m definitely happy to wait another year. So hot deal for the credit but for those on the fence the annual upgrade that makes things slower doesn’t seem to be true this year
themosawi
20 Sep 17#149
I can live off a £1000 for a whole month in London including rent. No thanks.
plodging
20 Sep 17#148
Cracking advice .. Buy an iPad as well as a £900 phone .
ec9wrr
20 Sep 17#147
Any electrical item in the EU has a two year warranty. Buying from JL would make no difference.
The European Directive 1999/44/EC says all EU countries have to ensure a retailer could be held liable for all “non-conformities” which manifest within two years from delivery.
I think SOGA is 6 years?
indywooda
20 Sep 17#146
Is anyone else not surprised that a phone is pushing £1000, it’s pretty much replacing a standard phone and a tablet at just shy of 6 inches. We just need Apple to adopt the Microsoft route of docking the phone and running native programs and you can ditch your £1000+ MacBook too (granted Microsoft didn’t get that quite right)
username5026
20 Sep 17#145
You’re better off buying a phone and putting it onto a 0% balance transfer card and spread the payments. Sell your current phone to get the price down. For example. I’ll be getting the iPhone X and paying £43 a month for it. Unlimited minutes. Unlimited texts and 30gb of data by haggling with EE for a good sim only deal.
Tutankhamark
20 Sep 17#144
So is there any way to preorder the iPhone X and make use of this finance deal if it's in store only?
When preorders open online next month, will it require the whole payment upfront or is it a deposit/reservation?
plewis00
20 Sep 17#143
Upgrade program you have to have AppleCare+ and never own the old handset at month 12 if you choose to upgrade. This scheme is just outright financing the sim-free price of the phone with a small deposit and no interest charges.
plewis00
20 Sep 17#142
I always justified it as 'price of a cup of coffee a day' and the 'non-organic thing I probably interact with most on a daily basis' so I don't really resent paying for the newest or most up to date (not necessarily best) experience.
I'm intrigued what percentage of people actually buy it interest free vs outright, I suspect a lot of people are going beyond their actual affordability with this new handset.
funkichica
20 Sep 17#141
Not quite right as the max sales tax you will pay is 8%. If you are lucky some states are 0%!!
tech3475
20 Sep 17#140
How was it off topic? If your prediction is correct that just proves my point (that it's not just Apple increasing general market prices) since that would also be an increase on the older model.
andysmoore
20 Sep 17#139
What's the difference between this and the upgrade program?
deany76
20 Sep 17#138
I think its fair to say Apple inc (with their Ireland tax dodge) isn't doing the UK any favours, even at 732 plus VAT should be £878.00 for X and with 12 month Warranty, its a Joke. ps I love apple, have been iPhone since 2007, iPad Mini 2, rMBP, apple watch
dsenart
20 Sep 17#137
USA does not have VAT included.. so $999 will be plus whatever the state Tax rate is.. ALSO exchange rate can't be counted because in the USA you earn a dollar, you spend a dollar.. in the UK you earn a pound you spend a pound.. so you can't say the exchange rate makes it more expensive or cheaper unless you live in the USA and earn ££ or if you live in the UK and earn $$.. then the exchange rate affects you.
thearbiter65
20 Sep 17#136
Thanks for posting. This is going to work out a lot cheaper for me! I get through a lot of minutes and about 5gb of data. So, I'm going for a £14 a month 3 sim only, unlimited minutes and texts and 12 gb of data. Then buy the phone I want on this deal. I was going to get one anyway, this is by far the cheapest option. Thanks again.
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#135
Won't be long before others follow I reckon and at least it gives peace of mind for the duration of the contract.
deany76
20 Sep 17#134
Pleased to hear that, hopefully all carriers will follow. Crazy to think folks sign up to a 24 month commitment and only get 12 Warranty.
Outright purchase: John Lewis way to go...
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#133
Vodafone now offer 24 month warranties on all iPhones brought through them.
suarez777
20 Sep 17#132
Guess it will be better to spend £1k upfront and buy it from John Lewis, rather than buying it on finance from Apple.
deany76
20 Sep 17#131
I just think the £1000 iPhone [and 6S, 7, 8] should include 24 month Warranty. Apple must put their 'money where their mouth is'. Without being accused of repeating myself...apples main competitor Samsung offer 24 months as standard. 12 months is no where near enough
Some will try to defend these companies and their lending practices, but the reality is that payment plans are nothing more than an expolitative measure to allow people to buy something they could not otherwise afford.
What's worse is that most of these "interest free" products are luxuries; things that people don't even need.
suarez777
20 Sep 17#129
I already get fast charging by using the iPad adapter
DealAnarchy
20 Sep 17#128
I guess they do have to come up with a way to make people pay £1000 for a phone...
plodging
20 Sep 17#127
Don't forget to add on the cost of a usb-c cable and power supply brick to enable fast charging as Apple don't supply them with the phone .
TacticalTimbo
20 Sep 17#126
Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you, an Android fanboy, it makes you look like a child! I most certainly am not of the Android camp, I've got the 5S, 7+, 2xiPad Air 2 and a MBP13...plus a draw full of older devices. It's just £1149 is a stupid sum for a phone, even £999 (I'm not halfing my storage for an extra £180).
p.s. forgot I've got a series 0 and 2 watch.
rossjamesparker
20 Sep 17#125
Apple Care on the iPhone X is £199. The excess is £79 (£25 for screen issues). So an AppleCare repair is going to cost £278. As with any insurance, if you can afford/survive the worst case, self-insure.
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#124
I think I will risk it again it's not so much hassle 50 mile round trip for me, will just get a 0% credit card at the ready in case Barclays say no again.
Dodge62
20 Sep 17#123
Not very relevant if you have to leave it there. Bring it back and you'll pay their 6% and our 20% (you can't reclaim sales tax from the US the way UK visitors can reclaim VAT when they leave), which would kill all your savings.
Of course you could smuggle it in. But then if you're a criminal why not just nick it in the first place? Much cheaper then.
hobsgrg
20 Sep 17#122
Yes same happened to me excellent credit rating and i have a credit card with them but was turned down. Barclays use their own criteria for approving loans and from discussion on Macrumors seem to be picky about who they approve without any obvious rhyme or reason as to who they approve so your credit rating is useless in predicting if you'll get approve or not. I traveled 50 miles to get there so just paid the full amount up front to avoid a wasted journey, its a big pain you don't know if you'll be accepted or not beforehand.
DemonIT
20 Sep 17#121
Ok, "cheaper to fly to Delaware, buy one in $ and fly back"
In case it wasn't obvious I wasn't suggesting anybody actually do this, just making a point about the unfair pricing. However you could - and get a free trip to boot :smile:
An unscrupulous individual who was paranoid about customs would just discard/post home the packaging separately and avoid import duty.
Finally, to all the android fanboys ridiculing the price, remember the "cost" is not equal to the price. When I upgrade and get 75% of the outlay back it will have cost me £250. Good luck getting 75% residual on a Samsung, lol.
peaky1988
20 Sep 17#120
That's very reasonable. But I hope the X comes down
thecynicalsaint
20 Sep 17#119
Terrific. It's also cheaper in Florida than any US state with a sales tax higher than 6%, but I'm not sure what the statement was meant to add to the discussion?
toffeelover9
20 Sep 17#118
The cheek for me (unless I am misinformed about the tax system) is that we have to pay tax which we do on everything, so how come they pay a pittance in tax when they have already taken our VAT!?!
TacticalTimbo
20 Sep 17#117
Well I'm going to assume you're not being deliberately naive, and haven't recognised the enormous growth of Chinese manufactures, Xiaomi and Huawei et al are doing what Samsung and LG did in the 80s/90s...they offer very well made, well spec'd handsets, at vastly lower prices; just take a look at one of them riding a wave of heat right now: hotukdeals.com/dea…583
This isn't their flagship, but even that's a fraction of the cost.
Notice something funny on the direction of travel where marketshare's concerned;
I didn't question why Apple have priced the iPhone's this way. I was simply stating its cheaper to buy the iPhone X in Florida than it is in the UK, no matter how you spin it.
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#114
Off topic - The leaked pixel 2 xl prices are $849 for 64gb and $949 for 128gb so with tax £849 and £949 is my prediction.
themiso
20 Sep 17#113
Apple must be so ashamed of how old looking iPhone 8 is that most photos of it are showing back of the phone, just the size you will probably look at just once when you buy this thing.
thecynicalsaint
20 Sep 17#112
Read previous comments on how to do the correct comparison. Sales taxes have nothing to do with Apple so no point comparing the Florida 6% with our 20%.
As someone has also said, our additional consumer protections will contribute to the price and they are probably upping the price given the volatility of our currency while Brexit talks are ongoing.
At the end of the day, you will always find that some items are cheaper in the US than here, whilst some others are cheaper here than there.
thecynicalsaint
20 Sep 17#111
Completely agree with this. I had the first one, 3GS, and 4S and thought they were all brilliant and miles ahead of anything else at the time. Each one also had big changes from the previous iteration so the price was one I could justify.
I have a 6S now mainly because my 4S was getting interminably slow and like the big screen but did not feel like the rest of changes were as revolutionary as previous iterations. Certainly didn't feel like I was paying for a huge leap forward as in the past.
I don't see anything in any of the new models that would tempt me to upgrade a 6S.
0XYM0R0NIC
20 Sep 17#110
Baaa
CM52MUZ
20 Sep 17#109
A $999 iPhone X will cost $1058.94 in Florida with 6% state tax (£784.40) and will cost £999 in the UK, difference of £214.60. So yes, it's much cheaper in the US.
sithwad
20 Sep 17#108
You have to pay duty on goods over £390 quid so would have to factor that in
furbix
20 Sep 17#107
Do you have to trade in the phone at the end of the two years? Can you keep the phone (sell it privately) and get another phone on the plan?
furbix
20 Sep 17#106
Your covered for two instances of accidental damage with this deal so hot. No need to use a stupid case and destroy the looks of it.
CM52MUZ
20 Sep 17#105
$14
tech3475
20 Sep 17#104
Funnily enough I just looked up the price of the Pixel XL 128GB on Googles website and it came to £819.
Bear in mind Google used to be popular for their much cheaper Nexus lines.
Samsung also launched the Note 8 at £869 as well (add a 200GB card and it's over £900), the Note 3 cost around £550 on launch.
The only thing I have noticed is that the other OEMs may bring down their prices more, but then you have the issue of support OS wise so it could end up being a false economy.
sithwad
20 Sep 17#103
US sales tax varies between states from 0 to 10%. You could pick it up in one of the few states that has no sales tax and the phone would cost you $999 around £740. According to this little chart, we in the UK are just above average in the great Apple Rip off :angry:
tuhinrahman
20 Sep 17#102
US customers pay $999 plus tax hence, maximum amount they pay $1198.80 for an iPhone x equivalent to £884.53 whilst UK customers pay £999 which is £114.47 more than US customers! How this is justified? Conversation rate at $1=£0.74 or £1=$1.36
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#101
Not much discount then.
suarez777
20 Sep 17#100
Do VISA cost much to travel to USA ?
suarez777
20 Sep 17#99
As a last case scenario, you can always use ur content insurance, depending on the cover
chenzz
20 Sep 17#98
Not true, unless you fly to somewhere like Delaware where you can shop tax free.
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#97
They are hoping with the IUP program people will ignore the end price and just see what they pay per month.
chenzz
20 Sep 17#96
the issue is apple greedily increased all their product prices to about 15-20% when GBP dropped from 1.45USD to 1.25GBP and didn't/wouldn't decrease the price when GBP rises now.
BrianM
20 Sep 17#95
On which planet is this?? The big players (Apple, Samsung, Google etc.) appear, to most people, to be pushing UP the costs of their premium handsets!
Dale.Kilborn
20 Sep 17#94
I tried the IUP route last year with the 7 plus and got denied credit despite banking with Barclays with a Barclays credit card with an exemplary credit rating.
It's a shame that they do not do 0% online through PayPal which for me would be the best option without the hassle of getting to an Apple Store and possibly getting turned down again.
Still saying all of the above having the freedom to pick and choose the best sim only contract is a definite plus and your not locked into a very expensive mobile phone contract.
deany76
20 Sep 17#93
I'm iOS all the way but when my best friend (who got iPhone from Blackbury becase of ME) iPhone 6S played up 6 months out of Warranty ie 18 months old £599.00 apple wanted £375.00 to fix "out of Warranty" So....
Luckly she bought from John Lewis. (on MY advice).
These items do go wrong after 12months so....buy from John Lewis 24 month warranty or consider AppleCare
Main point though is at these prices apple should offer 24 month warranty as Samsung do.
Voted Cold due to apple's 12 month crap Warranty.
ravi47
20 Sep 17#92
Just got a £10 retention deal with 3 inc 8gb data and unlimited mins and texts
DemonIT
20 Sep 17#91
Cheaper to fly to the states, buy one there in $ and fly back again.
$1149 = £848
£1,149 - £848 = £301.
slannmage
20 Sep 17#90
OLED sucks so I’m waiting for Micro le
waikit83
20 Sep 17#89
Great post thanks for sharing heat added
fiestasteve44
20 Sep 17#88
See original post
slannmage
20 Sep 17#87
Faster for me on iPhone 6s and there’s lots of just nice little features... main one being a file browser finally.
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#86
for example, with EE 20% discount the total comes upto £58.39
However this only comes with 25gb and no annual upgrade:
TacticalTimbo
20 Sep 17#85
Buy it then, but at a time when the average handset price is falling, Apple are choosing to massively increase prices; it costs almost the same for a 64GB 8+, as my 7+ 128GB cost, and that's a handset with very minimal change. That's not forgetting the 8+ being hiked considerably over the 6S+ (I paid £819).
monkey1999
20 Sep 17#84
Just see upgrade programme from link ?
Daaaavvveee
20 Sep 17#83
Its exactly the same as getting a normal pay monthly phone contract, with this you can pay whatever the monthly cost is then add say a £9 a month sim only deal. Worthwhile if you purchase a new phone every year etc.
yozzer2006
20 Sep 17#82
Quoting myself here but I meant Manchester in New Hampshire :relaxed:
mro2011
20 Sep 17#81
End of Oct. Released start of Nov
RichKid10123
20 Sep 17#80
after having apple phones for many years apple seem to have priced most of us(certainly me) out of the market, the phone is just not affordable, however carphone warehouse have a 12 month deal where you pay £719 odd up front for the 8 plus and pay £25 for 12 months which i thought is quite decent, pay it off within 12 months then get a cheaper sim only. all top phones these days are ridiculously priced so depends on what people fancy, my 6 plus since launch day is still ok so will probably wait for it to die before upgrading
mro2011
20 Sep 17#79
Anyone going US lol. Even tho if they know you bought it while away they would hit you with tax when returning.
mattym129
20 Sep 17#78
The latest iPhone is far from your only choice.
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#77
Agreed!!
tech3475
20 Sep 17#76
I suspect a 1:1 pricing will become more common as time goes on, at least while brexit is ongoing (there have been predictions of the rate going down further), even Amazon with the Fire 10 is doing this ($149/£149).
To those struggling to get discounts through contracts, I'd suggest checking to see if they do a discount based on your employer and/or waiting for the initial rush to die down.
As soon as there's regular stock, chances are they'll be more willing to discount although good luck with Vodafone (most they offered was 15% off because of work or 20% off the older models (got 40% off a Note 4 two years back)).
Could also try contacting disconnections and requesting a transfer code, using a different sim free deal I managed to get a decent sim only creating a lower TCO.
alizi1
20 Sep 17#75
Not an iPhone user myself, but this is a great deal. Would definitely consider doing if it was an Android flagship. Have some heat!
Gentle_Giant
20 Sep 17#74
US sales tax is more like 6%, but it does vary from state to state.
WestMidlands
20 Sep 17#73
I’m sticking to my se
bojangles
20 Sep 17#72
using iphone 8s 256mb at £949/$949
US Price is $949 excudling Sales Tax = £700 £700 + 20% VAT = £840 Now add on the average 9% sales tax in the US $1034 = £762
So its £80 difference - yet apple have to ship the phones further and give us different plug adapter for a smaller market, as well as change the phone spec to meet EU specifications.
If exchange rates went back to £1 = $1.50 Then the phone would be cheaper here than the US.
flyyoufools88
20 Sep 17#71
Mad!
ipswich78
20 Sep 17#70
Five states do not have statewide sales taxes: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. Of these, Alaska and Montana allow localities to charge local sales taxes.
The five states with the highest average combined state and local sales tax rates are Louisiana (9.98 percent), Tennessee (9.46 percent), Arkansas (9.30 percent), Alabama (9.01 percent), and Washington (8.92 percent).
The five states with the lowest average combined rates are Alaska (1.76 percent), Hawaii (4.35 percent), Wyoming (5.40 percent), Wisconsin (5.42 percent), and Maine (5.5 percent).
glaslyn
20 Sep 17#69
Voted hot. I don't think I'll make the jump from my iPhone 7 yet, but decent way of not being tied to a phone provider if that's what you want.
Right, best be off to storm the Samsung forums and ask what the point is of buying a £400 phone when a Nokia is only £200, followed by cruising the Mercedes forums to ask what the point is in paying £50k for a Merc when you can get a Dacia for £15k. On second thought - I don't want a Samsung or a Dacia, I have no interest in them and personally I don't like them, so I won't waste my time entering forums and posts that aren't relevant to me, unless I was a troll?
iwilliams54
20 Sep 17#68
Not being funny but if you have to finance a phone you probably don't need it...
Although I do buy my handsets outright so heat for the deal despite my personal feelings on the phone/financing.
vig1lante
20 Sep 17#67
This clearly is the iPhone upgrade programme .....
MadonnaProject
20 Sep 17#66
Just when I thought after the lacklustre showing people would wisen upo apple's BS. Wow. Oh well if you want it why not. Still hideous prices though.
bojangles
20 Sep 17#65
Meh BT iphone 8 plus 256gb is £57 a month for 15gb data & unlimited text & calls. + £200 upfront £1618 if your a BT customer with broadband, you get £5 a month discount =£1448Which works out £60 a month. so not much init
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#64
aha yeah they only offer 10%, I tried adding a new line to my brothers account but was only given 10%.
chtyrone2
20 Sep 17#63
What manner of buffoon would you need to be to pay 1,000 pounds for a phone?
Jawz
20 Sep 17#62
Apart from the battery not quite lasting a day and also a burned in slight Mark on my screen where the task bar is situated. Think I will stick with my Galaxy S6. Think I've fallen out with the upgrade but after getting this handset.
Nothing really I want at the moment. Apart from when they crack the battery technology for phones to last more than one day I may upgrade. Other than that it's all a bit meh!
Andyvalver
20 Sep 17#61
20 months on an iPhone X still works out at £50 a month. Then add your Sim deal and it's more like £60-£70 a month. That's insane.
Bardak
20 Sep 17#60
Thanks for this, I have an iphone 5s and I was thinking of updating to IOS 11 :relaxed:
suarez777
20 Sep 17#59
Haha I've been arguing for EE to give me discount on upgrade one, they were giving me none of that sadly
James.Howlett
20 Sep 17#58
Yeah probably before 2007, funnily enough the same year iPhones were introduced. :joy:
James.Howlett
20 Sep 17#57
Looks like the penny is dropping. I wonder how long it will take for all the others
That is true, does this includ
your better of using EE, but discount only applies on the non annual upgrade plans.
118luke
20 Sep 17#52
You mean like every other manufacturer? No one manufacturer has invented anything revolutionary on mobile phones since late 2000's. Now they are all just adding gimmicks to try to cling to the "wow" appeal.
118luke
20 Sep 17#51
Wonder how many on here are moaning that the iPhone X is £1000 yet will go out and happily buy a 60" TV for £2000 when you can get them for less than half that.
Your paying a premium price for a flagship phone. Whats not to understand? :unamused:
asiot
20 Sep 17#50
How so?, surely it will cost the same as every other Apple store
yozzer2006
20 Sep 17#49
The Iphone X will cost around £740 at The Manchester Apple Store
MrMoneySavingExpert
20 Sep 17#48
They’re called Managers!
xembox
20 Sep 17#47
Tell me more about the EE retentions thing? I have been with EE for around 10 years and I called a few days ago as my contract is now up for renewal. I was surprised they couldn't offer me anything better than either getting a new EE contract with another company or leaving and going to another network who are cheaper. How do I get past these 'first line potatoes'?
Spacevsgravity
20 Sep 17#46
What network? Three? I'm on the £17 Unlimited data /200mins but have been trying to get more minutes for a while but they always say no! If you're on three, how do you get past these first line guys anyway?
daltimor
20 Sep 17#45
I completely agree with you. £1000 for phone is just too much
pukenukem
20 Sep 17#44
I don't think this is technically a deal, but that doesn't matter. It is very useful to know for those wanting an iPhone as for many it's the only way they can afford one without being strapped down to a contract for 2 years. Heat from me.
That said, I think this new iPhone X is the most overpriced tech Apple have produced to date. Back in the 3G/3GS days they were overpriced but I didn't care, nobody came close to the iOS experience. The camera was poor, they lack certain tech that was standard on Android phones...didn't matter one bit, as they were absolutely fantastic to use while Android was clunky and hard work in comparison.
This isn't the situation anymore and I think Apple are living on a well marketed illusion that they are still 'different'. I don't think facial recognition and some gimmicky emoji's befit a company that used to revolutionise the way we interacted with technology. Disappointing. Don't get me wrong, their phones are great phones, but there are plenty of great phones now; there used to be just one.
theengelbert
20 Sep 17#43
Still loving my iPhone SE, runs lightning fast even on iOS 11. Fingerprint sensor will surely be far less of a faff than holding it up to your face all the time. Fits in my pocket, had a headphone socketand a fraction of the price
gary333
20 Sep 17#42
I updated last night. Download happened at full speed so they must have sorted the slow speeds that have hampered the process in previous years.
The phone feels exactly the same (speed wise - iphone 6s plus). I cannot really see anything that looks dramatically different, couple of minor tweaks to the control panel, although to my eyes the majority of changes look to be visual. Not sure I like the black large text heading in all of the screens.
Much of a muchness. Not bad, but not really anything better. Seems stable so far, no problems as yet and no battery issues that I had when iOS 10 launched.
bigbak
20 Sep 17#5
The link goes to prices with AppleCare+. There's a pop up for these prices.
Way too much to pay for a phone these days for me. I don't quite understand the quibbling over the higher priced one. Adjusted for inflation it's only around £200 more than the first iPhone.
fiestasteve44 to bigbak
20 Sep 17#7
yes the pop up doesnt have its own URL hence the link to the upgrade program and an explanation to click the link for the pop up
suarez777 to bigbak
20 Sep 17#10
The main issue is that the iPhone X is 999 dollar in USA which is £734 in UK.
Yet Apple has the cheek for the first time ever to match the UK price to USA, with no change for the exchange rate!
Eotris to suarez777
20 Sep 17#14
OK - I'll say it before anyone else: US prices EXCLUDE sales taxes. A fairer comparison is to add 20% for the UK sales tax (VAT), i.e.
$999 + 20% = $1199
At current conversion rate of £1= $1.36, iPhone X = ~£881 cf. £999
Yes, still a rip-off, but not by as much as you suggest.
suarez777 to Eotris
20 Sep 17#16
Is there a list of sales tax by state?
As far as I know, some states have 0% tax. So do we compare ur analysis against those states with 0% tax or those with 10%?
Also NY tax is way less than 20%
Eotris to suarez777
20 Sep 17#24
I am not trying to be argumentative, but as Apple has no control of sale taxes in any country, I fail to see your point?
Maybe, if I reverse the argument it would be clearer: to have a fairer comparison, we should strip out sales taxes, i.e.
iPhone X (US) = $999 iPhone X (UK) = £999 - 20% VAT = £832.50 = ~$1132
A difference of ~$132, which can be explained by Apple hedging on the currency market (£ has fallen as low as $1.20, which would coincidentally equate to $999, i.e the same price).
suarez777 to Eotris
20 Sep 17#28
Valid point.
End of the day as a consumer I am seeing this as the final price available to consumer. iPhone X in NY is $999 * 1.09 sales tax = c$1100, which is still roughly £200 more than UK. However ignoring all operational expenses.
Also this is the first time Apple has ever introduced equal pricing too, despite UK reducing corporation taxes to 15%, not 20%.
gary333 to suarez777
20 Sep 17#32
This is where you are making a mistake. Apple is a business, they price according to what they want to make (margin) on a product. The way you compare is by converting the base US price with the UK price. You then add our 20% VAT on.
You don't add 20% to the US price and convert, nor do you add the US sales tax on and convert.
VAT is a price our government have decided is what we must pay, not the company.
suarez777 to gary333
20 Sep 17#34
I added 9% sales from NY.
ebaysniper to suarez777
20 Sep 17#18
My thoughts exactly. It also seems that the OFT (Office of fair trading) are not interested in even looking into this. Still a large number of people will buy the product on credit cards without batting an eyelid.
Also, Samsung offered a massive trade-in offer for people who still had the Note 7, but of course that offer was not available to anyone in the UK. Again OFT not interested.
tomwatts to ebaysniper
20 Sep 17#40
Get a grip mate. The OFT isn't designed to dictate the prices companies set. Apple have chosen to do this - let them do this. I think it's mad paying this much for a phone but you know why they've done it? Because people will buy it. If you could charge a thousand pounds for something worth less and know that people will still buy it then you would. Your argument about the prices of everything loses traction when we think about prices in 3rd world countries compared to ours as they have everything cheaper!!
gary333 to suarez777
20 Sep 17#31
I am not sure what is confusing about what he said.
As the guy above pointed out your conversion is misleading as sellers in the UK must include VAT, however in the USA the sales tax is not included.
The fairest way is to convert the US price to UK and then add on our 20% VAT.
Apple products (being a US company) will always add margin on the products for multiple reasons, 1) to guard against currency exchange fluctuations, 2) To contribute towards the higher cost of doing business i.e.EU/UK have much higher degrees of consumer protection and 3) To account for other taxes and tariffs and even marketing.
Apple will have pegged the price based on late August / early September exchange rate of £1 = $1.28 - $1.30. Using these figures we can take $999 and convert to pounds (let's say £1 = $1.30) = £768, then add VAT = £922 thus mark up is £77.
As we have seen shifts in the exchange rate that benefit us $999 / 1.357 = £737.70 now we add on our VAT giving us a US to UK comparative rate of £885 thus £114 higher.
Just one week has swung the difference £37. Now see why products in the UK cost more for US companies? What would have happened if the currency devalued to $1.25 the iphone would only be £39 more than US.
suarez777 to gary333
20 Sep 17#33
Understand but exchange has historically been volatile, so we cant cherry pick dates. Also assume Apple has plenty of exchange rate derivatives to protect from this anyway.
Apple historically has never done this before, even Samsung Note 8 is pricing is fairer for UK citizens.
End of the day, Apple knows that its brand loyalty is the best and people still still buy if its £900 or £1000.
No point arguing over this, there are 100s other factors, like brand loyalty.
gary333 to suarez777
20 Sep 17#37
How do you think companies base line a price. They pick dates, this isn't finger a finger in the air job! The rate for the last 12 months averages out at around £1-$1.27.
Samsung is not a US company
Anyway as you are quite clearly here just to grind your axe we can safely say the likely average differential is not anywhere near what you were originally quoting.
itsdavidjones1984
20 Sep 17#41
Surely after all these years you should know 100% that each new iPhone will only be slightly better than the last, with technology that is years old that Apple have just made slightly better
argosextra
20 Sep 17#39
Has anyone upgraded to iOS 11 yet what's the latest any changes or iPhone just got slower
Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#13
Looks decent, but taking a sim only can cost unto £15 depending on what network and what you require. Vodafone are offering this:
stef232 to Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#19
£1662 over 24 Months for an iphone 8 plus
The maths work out cheaper for a 20 month Plan from apple and a sim only deal for the X 256GB.
However I do understand everyones monthly budget , upfront cost , term preference are all different.
Aaronnnn to stef232
20 Sep 17#20
It all depends if a decent sim only deal is availble.
suarez777 to Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#21
Use ur employee discount on EE, it is much cheaper.
You can get iPhone X on that contract with ur discount, maybe £100 extra over 2 years.
Aaronnnn to suarez777
20 Sep 17#23
Tell me more about this discount please :relaxed:
suarez777 to Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#25
I thought u got ur 15% discount on Vodafone, because you work for some company?
Through my workplace I get 15% off at Vodafone and 20% at EE, so I thought you would too.
Aaronnnn to suarez777
20 Sep 17#27
In all fairness that was just applied :thinking:
suarez777 to Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#30
Really? Doesnt happen to me, when I go on the site, guess its ur lucky day then! (without using the code)
MrMoneySavingExpert to Aaronnnn
20 Sep 17#38
Not a great deal. Let's break down this cost.
£68 a month x 24 plus £30 up front = £1662 Take away the RRP at the moment. £1662 - £949 = £713 £713 is the cost of the 60gb sim over 24 months. £713 divided by 24 = £29.70 a month..
So you're paying more :smile:
Cheaper options
Even the most expensive option for 100gb is cheaper than Vodafone at £25 a month.
Most people will use the £18 deal as 30gb is a lot of data.
MrMoneySavingExpert
20 Sep 17#36
Have heat. However if you're a loyal customer with EE, Three etc you can get a better deal on those networks with retentions. You have to get past the first line potatoes though. As they have no power.
With my 7 plus 128gb I paid nothing up front (haggle) and £45.99 a month for two year contract. (loyalty) 25gb of data, unlimited minutes and texts. Then last month they had an offer on to upgrade to the 40gb tariff for use in USA etc for an extra £2. So now it's £47.99 a month which is a really good deal.
:laughing:
rhodyate
20 Sep 17#35
hot
unreality
20 Sep 17#29
My money saving tip for the day:
Install iOS 11. Choose one of the nice new background images. Clean reformat. Get a new phone case, or use it without a case. I'm gonna go caseless with 6S.
Save £1000 and get a new feeling
bestbuy123
20 Sep 17#26
I remember the days when I didn't need to pay a mini mortgage just for a phone
ah_heng
20 Sep 17#22
0% doesn't mean it's cheaper :smile: Dam you Apple... you took away headphone jack and everyone follow suit. Now you raised the price, I am sure the rest are following as well! The last I heard Google PIXEL is closer to the 1K mark then before. Is this some form of colussion or something? :P
candyman86
20 Sep 17#17
When are preorders of the X going live?
Rastafari
20 Sep 17#1
This is standard. Where is deal?
fiestasteve44 to Rastafari
20 Sep 17#2
it is not standard, the deal is for the 0% finance which is a deal.
Rastafari to fiestasteve44
20 Sep 17#15
Funny, I bought an iPhone 7 Plus six months ago on 0% interest free from the Apple store.
leomutt123
20 Sep 17#12
Pointless if you want an Iphone X before 2018
3ak
20 Sep 17#11
HOT regardless of what anyone says they normally don't do that amount of months at 0%
fireman1
20 Sep 17#9
What a great way to make it feel like your not paying a thousand pounds for a phone.
stef232
20 Sep 17#8
Yes the phones expensive but arent all Apple products, but as Poster says its a better and cheaper option than tieing yourself up to 24 month phone contract providing your happy with a sim only deal running along side this - I'm ready to upgrade after running my 6 plus since launch day so currently coonsidering all available options for the best deal. Heat added as I hadn't seen this on the apple website and it does suit my needs but get resdy for the "Chil"l from the Android Drones !!
admando
20 Sep 17#3
not taking reservations...
fiestasteve44 to admando
20 Sep 17#6
as per post, you need to find stores with your model in stock on the day,
MickyD
20 Sep 17#4
Brand new handsets and already available on 20 months interest free. I’ll stick with my iphone 7. Expected so much more from the Apple event. For me, just a letdown. But heat to OP for those that must have.
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Opening post
It is also not Paypal payments nor Barclays Iphone financing.
All the above are available online.
This is IPHONE PAYMENTS, and is available through Apple stores only.
It is financed through Barclays but is basically the phone 0% over 20 months.
Iphone 8 64gb £31.50 a month. £69 deposit.
Iphone 8 256gb £39 a month. £69 deposit
Iphone 8 Plus 64gb £36.50 a month. £69 deposit.
Iphone 8 Plus 256bg £44 a month. £69 deposit.
Iphone X 64gb £46.50 a month £69 deposit
Iphone X 256gb £54 a month £69 deposit.
Pair this with a cheap sim only deal, it will beat any carrier contract deal hands down over the term and all SIM only plans are max 12 months so free to move carrier if they are useless.
The phone is unlocked and you can use whatever carrier sim in it and change at any time.
This Iphone Payments offer is hidden away on the Apple website, my link is the upgrade program but on that page there is a link "Learn more about iphone payments) and all details are there.
Obviously it is dependent on you finding stock of the model you want instore.
Please see terms on the page re documentation needed instore when attending. (as per normal credit application).
Latest comments (364)
iPhone x is $999 + tax of £87 total to pay $1086 now convert this its to GBP its £830 a difference of £170
so if your buy in Delaware for example thee is no tax to pay so its $999 covert to GBP its £763 a difference of £236
At the end of the day if you can afford to buy the iPhone x and your an apple fan then buy it, who cares what other think its your money.
Not everyone will get approved, had to take out two loans for me and the gf as she got declined.
bore off
£1000
for a phone
....
£1000
Really??
I'm all for cutting edge tech, I bought an expensive TV and not adverse to paying out, but £1000 for a phone seems totally, utterly, insane to me.
If you don't buy them they won't sell them at this price...
madness.
argos.co.uk/pro…661?storeID=693&cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59158%7Ccid:598893978%7Cagid:24310579490%7Ctid:aud-144400486596:pla-324393857435%7Ccrid:86864920730%7Cnw:g%7Crnd:16210804354188004266%7Cdvc:m%7Cadp:1o1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5v_F4qG-1gIV7LDtCh0ddgttEAQYASABEgKPpPD_BwE
Thank me later :wink:
i’m sure that the prive will smash, or if bot iPhone 7 will be cheap as hell ;
Sales TAX in the USA is no where near 20% more like 10% at most
I’ve no idea why you seem to be under the impression that Sky’s iPhone prices also include an unlimited everything SIM. If only that were true!
My point is that Apple itself is not really ‘ripping us off’ on the iPhone X pricing in the UK as much as many people think*.
1. US pricing does not include sales tax; UK pricing includes sales tax (VAT).
2. Local currency markets have to be accounted for.
Apple do not set either of the above, so they should be ‘factored’ out.
*in fact, Apple have set the iPhone X price in the UK the same as the US, if you EXCLUDE sales taxes AND assume the historically lowest local exchange rate. (They would actually LOSE profit in the UK if the £ falls below the $1.20 mark).
Be easier if you could do it online and the item ships direct
Still love my iPhone 6s but I’m not upgrading my phone until it’s unusable, what’s the point nothing much seems to change anymore, they’re all out of true innovative ideas.
It might seem like some sci-fi stuff but holographic communication isthe future, hopefully not too far away.
Definitely have some heat for 69
:wink: :wink: :wink:
I presume you wear roller skates? - Why? Because it gives you wheels to get about and its a fraction of the cost.
I presume you were bin bags as clothing? - Why? Because it provides you with clothing and its a fraction of the cost.
I presume you walk to the local mecca bingo for a holiday? - Why? Because it provides you with alllll the GILF's you could need and its a fraction of the cost of mexico.
Same old tired rhetoric on hotukdeals and most of it comes down to "i dont have the free cash to be able to buy that so its obviously a negative that others should not either"
I cant afford a tub of ben and jerry's but to those who can i still wish you a good day.
Good day sir!
£57.45 ÷ 30 days = £1.91 per day.
If you can afford it get it, if not don't.
I own an iPad.Upgraded to iOS 11. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.
My phone does everything I need it to at the fraction of the cost.
Who said I was excited?
With AppleCare+ included, you get up to two years of hardware repairs, software support, and coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage, each subject to an excess fee of £25 for screen replacement or £79 for any other damage
i have a slight issue with the Op's decision to quote "£46.50" for this "deal". From what I can see this relates to one phone option which is £46.50 / month for 20 months. A quick calc in my head here but that's £930 I believe?
so surely the clearest indicator to others is that this is the total not this singular £46.50 payment?
This just smacks of not wanting to quote the total price because it's RRP and therefore wouldn't attract much heat!
Edit: even worse there's a £69 deposit to factor in to so £999. So the Hotukdeals "Buy for £46.50" link above is even further from being accurate.
I can't give this any heat for that reason
Do you think they'd let me upgrade from that plan to this one? Fancy the X, but not paying £56 a month for it. £46 is about the same as what I'm currently paying.
The 256gb 8 Plus is £44 a month with a £69 deposit without the above.... which is £949 = 0% interest free.
I'm coming to the end of my 6S (which to be honest, at the time I was fairly staggered to see a deal in the first month as they never used to discount on the cheaper tarriffs - £31 a month for the 64GB and 3GB data/unltd everything else).
From the looks of it, O2 Refresh is basically just paying the phone off for 24 months and I could probably get a cheaper sim only (much the same technique as described on this deal).
Remember the early 2000s when the phone cost was truly subsidised? Guess the networks are a little knackered given that people aren't texting or calling as much as they used to, and the only way they can try and recoup the cash is to charge massive amounts for data.
Given that this is the cheapest way to obtain a SIM Free iPhone X, I'd say it's a deal and one worth posting for those who didn't know.
The X should be £799.00 not £999
the iPhone 8 is really an incremental upgrade iPhone 7 S
In fact, using the same calculator demonstrates that your £699 iphone 6 that you purchased in 2014 is £718 in todays money. More expensive than the new 64gb iphone 8, which has crammed more tech in! Go figure (no pun intended!)
Also Samsung, if you have say a iPhone 6 they will give you £250 towards a S8 or S8+ with a standard Samsung.24 month Warranty.
The prices aren't help by how badly the pound is doing at the moment.
Not going to point any fingers.
It really is the old model/poor relation the day it comes out, bizarre situation.
A Psion Series 5 was £499 when laucnced in 1997 20 years ago, this is a better comparison. The "Gemini" will be around £500 when launched in December planetcom.co.uk/
You could also use the Big Mac index, many analysts do-
so a
£2.95 2014 Big Mac
would now cost
£4.19
based on iPhone 6 to iphone X price increase in 3 years.
Buy phone from apple on 20 months @ £31.50 * 20 + £69 = £699
Three Advanced plan 12GB data £14 per month * 24 months = £336
Total cost over two years is £1035. This includes phone & 2 years data, calls and texts
or
Get the phone on a two year contract from three on the same tariff as above for £55 per month + £79 Upfront
=£1399 over two years
Total saving by getting the device from apple is £364 over two years. Which is £15 per month.
Sounds ridiculous doesn't it, as does your rhetoric!
Also, heat to anyone that get's the reference!
An argument could be had for it 'only' being £40, but when people can and do do an awful lot on their mobile phones, without the need to own a laptop? You can understand why the prices are as they are! The poor exchange rate hasn't helped either, and apple aren't the only ones to have adjusted prices due to this. However, if you want a phone to make calls, send texts, a little bit of browsing/social media etc? Then people are looking in the wrong place! Just my two-pennies worth.
For me, this deal is hot, apple never normally hit out lengthy terms on 0% finance. It's not for me, as I am more than happy with my current daily driver (iphone 7 256gb).
Macs last longer than two or three years why not iPhones
As I’ve mentioned previously, I have a top spec Android phone, and a top spec iPad - they both perform equally and fantastically well. Although the App Store may have more apps available, hundreds of thousands of them are just ‘filler’, all useful and popular apps are available on both platforms, each with equally impressive functionality.
The iPhone X at £999.00 represents a 42.92% increase in 3 years over my model.
I know there is new tech inside but the.increase i outrageous.
Based on this the base model iPhone 2020 will be approx £1400!!!! we are moving into Macbook Pro territory
ps
I notice the OP and the apple screenshotdoes not include the cost, ie £46.50 PM sounds better that putting £999.00 etc
Also apple does not reduce prices until new product release so as the time passes and manufacturing is less expensive they earn even more ... See the problem here ?
I absolutely recommend buying he phone either on 0% with a sim only or so the upgrade program which is in effect also 0% over 20 months with AppleCare included.
Network 24 month deals are a rip off . You will end up paying at least £200 or more in hidden interest on these deals on average on a flagship phone.
My final advice is also wait at least a month or so before buying to avoid first production units. Often first production run units will have manufacturing defects and issues which get ironed out on second and then third production runs. I personally will wait until New Year to but the X . I hope this helps some people . 3 are doing some very competitive SO deals right now too.
Without sounding like a parrot, these iPhones need a standard apple 24month warranty, appleCare adding a year if purchased- making a 3 year warranty.
Apple wont do it as they make a fortune from appleCare, and 2nd year "out of warranty repair" revenue,plus iOS slows down dramatically on year 2 to 3 with updates, ensuring that folks have to buy new iPhone
I wasn’t particularly intending to boast, I was simply trying to demonstrate that I am kinda qualified to say iPhones are not very good, rather than just having that opinion because they were out of my reach, which I appreciate will be the case for some of the complainers
same lock screen
same icons / docking bar
same notifier
same quick swipe for settings
same noises
Same Keyboard
ability to swipe back from the left like in safari
It made the phone look dated and in some cases harder to use. so this is what I did;
same lock screen - took it off back to android
same icons / docking bar - took it off, made the phone look very dated
same notifier - again removed and stuck with android, looks slicker
same quick swipe for settings - removed, but used an app to swipe up, Android one had more quick touch settings and can customise
same noises - kept
Same keyboard - kept
ability to swipe back from the left like in safari - kept and i can swipe back in any app, an improvement!
What i'm saying is Android has apps to do everything that iOS does, you just have to install an app. I've always been an apple fan but after having the phone for a few days, I know it was the right move such a difference.
I agree with what most have said ive always had an iphone, but its not ahead of the game anymore. Android has caught up.
To be honest I don’t know what the big deal is.
At least you've caught up with 2015 tech though eh? :wink:
People have choice and this is a democracy.
Presumably, you also think people that buy omega watches and jaguar cars are also insane... Particular brands cost particular money.
Apple have a link to warranty information from every page of their website, and the stores are fully aware too.
apple.com/uk/…ty/
Shares in apple done really well over the last 3 years!
Analysts are already saying the margin on this phone is huge. Great for me, my pension holds Apple shares as isheep push it to the first 1 trillion dollar company.
I'm not sure why you took my comment as being directed at you and felt the need to defend yourself? I was (as mentioned) referring to individuals coming into an iPhone thread, ridiculing the new iPhone's price and referring to their Android devices as a better buy? If you were one of those trolls, then I didn't notice?!
You did however ignore, or misunderstand, what I was saying about price vs. cost and then effectively call anyone who pays £1149 for an iPhone "stupid". Sorry to say that when you say that it makes YOU look like the child.
I've never heard of EU 2 year rule and I think apple Genius would laugh in ones face. I found this on google but its 8years ago!
thisismoney.co.uk/mon…tml
There is a huge consumer debt bubble forming so don't think people who can't, or are close to not being able to afford this should put themselves in that position.
Obviously this will make financial sense for some - Just make good long term financial decisions guys and buy within your means.
PFF, yes, I know y'all will hate me for saying that.
PS not voted either way of course.
not a single state in USA has a 20% tax, only the UK has a 20% rate. in USA it ranges from 0% in some states to a max of around 10% in a few select states (these are combined state + highest local rates). and the average across USA as a whole is 6.52%.
using this average of 6.52% = $1065 / £783 (average price of iphone X in USA)
so £783 (USA) vs £999 (UK) is a more accurate comparison - and a clearer illustration of the rip-off
Maybe if you're still hesitant you can wait a month or two to see the first impressions and let others discover any issues with it then go for it if you're still happy. Or if you really love it, just go for it now haha!
Why is this difficult to understand?
Seriously though, hated Apple for years and nothing will ever change.
Just need to pay for the flight to New Orleans now...
This is the same minus Apple care.
Therefore Apple will not entertain the 12 month upgrade. You’re stuck with the phone for 20months battery degrading and all sorts.
If this is your route pay the extra and join the upgrade option proper. Change after 12 months.
Or take out extra policy with protect my bubble etc.
Still not worth £999 though.
I have just upgraded from a 9.7" iPad Pro to a 10.5" Pro, and it's DEFINTELY NOT twice as fast.
The iPhone 8 & X are the fastest phones ever produced by a long shot. Fact.
(A painful truth for Samsung fanboys) And thats with less RAM and less cores than Samsung S8 - so they must be doing something right.
Even the ancient iPhone SE beats the S8 on some tests.
The S8 is only just faster than the iPhone 7. So the X is well and truely into the flagship phone range.
Been like that from day one.
Theres never been one without the apple care, Non apple care option is the payment plan which doesnt include the upgrade feature.
If you don't then you'll have the option to leave it or buy it at full price sim free.
Then process is pretty painless, did it for my 7 last year.
Now I'm having moments of madness's and thinking of doing it for the X, and maybe selling the 7 and paying off my current one.
But this time if I did get one even though I'm leaning towards not currently, definitely will be keeping it for a minimum 20 Montha.
10.5" Cellular iPad Pro (just made better by iOS11, for those asking)
13" MacBook Pro Retina
12" MacBook Retina
27" iMac
Top spec Mac mini
Airpods
And lots of other accessories, Pencil, Superdrive etc.
But here's the thing - iPhones are terrible.
I always go with Android flagships, my current one is a HTC U11 and it's totally fantastic, it really is.
I managed to pick it up brand new for just £440 (but would still highly recommend it at it's £649 RRP) and I have a SIM only unlimited/unlimited/18GB EE contract with EE @ £16.99.
So, using the 24m calculation, phone and contract equates to £35.32 per month.
Apple openly admit that iPhone brings in 64% of their profits, so thanks all for supporting the Company that make my fantastic non-phone tech products - they couldn't do it without you!
see here
Seems very similar if not the same. Actually, the upgrade program would be better as you get the option to upgrade. Options are good.
While the iPhone 8 looks out of date already and its not even out yet.
I like the X but cant justify it plus the fact i feel forced to get the 256 since they removed the 128GB.
I dont currently pay for my sim, so I'd only pay the £54 for at least the next 6 months but still hmm.
Decisions.
If they are so worried about currency fluctuation, they should start accepting $ payments in UK Apple stores. I will be more than happy to pay in $ and take whatever conversion rate my card company or PayPal offers me.
The European Directive 1999/44/EC says all EU countries have to ensure a retailer could be held liable for all “non-conformities” which manifest within two years from delivery.
I think SOGA is 6 years?
When preorders open online next month, will it require the whole payment upfront or is it a deposit/reservation?
I'm intrigued what percentage of people actually buy it interest free vs outright, I suspect a lot of people are going beyond their actual affordability with this new handset.
and with 12 month Warranty, its a Joke.
ps
I love apple, have been iPhone since 2007, iPad Mini 2, rMBP, apple watch
Crazy to think folks sign up to a 24 month commitment and only get 12 Warranty.
Outright purchase: John Lewis way to go...
Without being accused of repeating myself...apples main competitor Samsung offer 24 months as standard.
12 months is no where near enough
Some will try to defend these companies and their lending practices, but the reality is that payment plans are nothing more than an expolitative measure to allow people to buy something they could not otherwise afford.
What's worse is that most of these "interest free" products are luxuries; things that people don't even need.
p.s. forgot I've got a series 0 and 2 watch.
Of course you could smuggle it in. But then if you're a criminal why not just nick it in the first place? Much cheaper then.
In case it wasn't obvious I wasn't suggesting anybody actually do this, just making a point about the unfair pricing. However you could - and get a free trip to boot :smile:
An unscrupulous individual who was paranoid about customs would just discard/post home the packaging separately and avoid import duty.
Finally, to all the android fanboys ridiculing the price, remember the "cost" is not equal to the price. When I upgrade and get 75% of the outlay back it will have cost me £250. Good luck getting 75% residual on a Samsung, lol.
This isn't their flagship, but even that's a fraction of the cost.
Notice something funny on the direction of travel where marketshare's concerned;
idc.com/pro…dor
As someone has also said, our additional consumer protections will contribute to the price and they are probably upping the price given the volatility of our currency while Brexit talks are ongoing.
At the end of the day, you will always find that some items are cheaper in the US than here, whilst some others are cheaper here than there.
I have a 6S now mainly because my 4S was getting interminably slow and like the big screen but did not feel like the rest of changes were as revolutionary as previous iterations. Certainly didn't feel like I was paying for a huge leap forward as in the past.
I don't see anything in any of the new models that would tempt me to upgrade a 6S.
Bear in mind Google used to be popular for their much cheaper Nexus lines.
Samsung also launched the Note 8 at £869 as well (add a 200GB card and it's over £900), the Note 3 cost around £550 on launch.
The only thing I have noticed is that the other OEMs may bring down their prices more, but then you have the issue of support OS wise so it could end up being a false economy.
maximum amount they pay $1198.80 for an iPhone x equivalent to £884.53 whilst UK customers pay £999 which is £114.47 more than US customers! How this is justified?
Conversation rate at $1=£0.74 or £1=$1.36
It's a shame that they do not do 0% online through PayPal which for me would be the best option without the hassle of getting to an Apple Store and possibly getting turned down again.
Still saying all of the above having the freedom to pick and choose the best sim only contract is a definite plus and your not locked into a very expensive mobile phone contract.
Luckly she bought from John Lewis. (on MY advice).
These items do go wrong after 12months so....buy from John Lewis 24 month warranty or consider AppleCare
Main point though is at these prices apple should offer 24 month warranty as Samsung do.
Voted Cold due to apple's 12 month crap Warranty.
$1149 = £848
£1,149 - £848 = £301.
However this only comes with 25gb and no annual upgrade:
Worthwhile if you purchase a new phone every year etc.
all top phones these days are ridiculously priced so depends on what people fancy, my 6 plus since launch day is still ok so will probably wait for it to die before upgrading
To those struggling to get discounts through contracts, I'd suggest checking to see if they do a discount based on your employer and/or waiting for the initial rush to die down.
As soon as there's regular stock, chances are they'll be more willing to discount although good luck with Vodafone (most they offered was 15% off because of work or 20% off the older models (got 40% off a Note 4 two years back)).
Could also try contacting disconnections and requesting a transfer code, using a different sim free deal I managed to get a decent sim only creating a lower TCO.
US Price is $949 excudling Sales Tax = £700
£700 + 20% VAT = £840
Now add on the average 9% sales tax in the US
$1034 = £762
So its £80 difference - yet apple have to ship the phones further and give us different plug adapter for a smaller market, as well as change the phone spec to meet EU specifications.
If exchange rates went back to £1 = $1.50 Then the phone would be cheaper here than the US.
The five states with the highest average combined state and local sales tax rates are Louisiana (9.98 percent), Tennessee (9.46 percent), Arkansas (9.30 percent), Alabama (9.01 percent), and Washington (8.92 percent).
The five states with the lowest average combined rates are Alaska (1.76 percent), Hawaii (4.35 percent), Wyoming (5.40 percent), Wisconsin (5.42 percent), and Maine (5.5 percent).
Right, best be off to storm the Samsung forums and ask what the point is of buying a £400 phone when a Nokia is only £200, followed by cruising the Mercedes forums to ask what the point is in paying £50k for a Merc when you can get a Dacia for £15k. On second thought - I don't want a Samsung or a Dacia, I have no interest in them and personally I don't like them, so I won't waste my time entering forums and posts that aren't relevant to me, unless I was a troll?
Although I do buy my handsets outright so heat for the deal despite my personal feelings on the phone/financing.
BT iphone 8 plus 256gb is £57 a month for 15gb data & unlimited text & calls. + £200 upfront
£1618
if your a BT customer with broadband, you get £5 a month discount
=£1448Which works out £60 a month.
so not much init
Nothing really I want at the moment. Apart from when they crack the battery technology for phones to last more than one day I may upgrade. Other than that it's all a bit meh!
I wonder how long it will take for all the others
your better of using EE, but discount only applies on the non annual upgrade plans.
Your paying a premium price for a flagship phone. Whats not to understand? :unamused:
I'm on the £17 Unlimited data /200mins but have been trying to get more minutes for a while but they always say no!
If you're on three, how do you get past these first line guys anyway?
That said, I think this new iPhone X is the most overpriced tech Apple have produced to date. Back in the 3G/3GS days they were overpriced but I didn't care, nobody came close to the iOS experience. The camera was poor, they lack certain tech that was standard on Android phones...didn't matter one bit, as they were absolutely fantastic to use while Android was clunky and hard work in comparison.
This isn't the situation anymore and I think Apple are living on a well marketed illusion that they are still 'different'. I don't think facial recognition and some gimmicky emoji's befit a company that used to revolutionise the way we interacted with technology. Disappointing. Don't get me wrong, their phones are great phones, but there are plenty of great phones now; there used to be just one.
The phone feels exactly the same (speed wise - iphone 6s plus). I cannot really see anything that looks dramatically different, couple of minor tweaks to the control panel, although to my eyes the majority of changes look to be visual. Not sure I like the black large text heading in all of the screens.
Much of a muchness. Not bad, but not really anything better. Seems stable so far, no problems as yet and no battery issues that I had when iOS 10 launched.
Way too much to pay for a phone these days for me.
I don't quite understand the quibbling over the higher priced one. Adjusted for inflation it's only around £200 more than the first iPhone.
Yet Apple has the cheek for the first time ever to match the UK price to USA, with no change for the exchange rate!
$999 + 20% = $1199
At current conversion rate of £1= $1.36, iPhone X = ~£881 cf. £999
Yes, still a rip-off, but not by as much as you suggest.
As far as I know, some states have 0% tax. So do we compare ur analysis against those states with 0% tax or those with 10%?
Also NY tax is way less than 20%
Maybe, if I reverse the argument it would be clearer: to have a fairer comparison, we should strip out sales taxes, i.e.
iPhone X (US) = $999
iPhone X (UK) = £999 - 20% VAT = £832.50 = ~$1132
A difference of ~$132, which can be explained by Apple hedging on the currency market (£ has fallen as low as $1.20, which would coincidentally equate to $999, i.e the same price).
End of the day as a consumer I am seeing this as the final price available to consumer. iPhone X in NY is $999 * 1.09 sales tax = c$1100, which is still roughly £200 more than UK. However ignoring all operational expenses.
Also this is the first time Apple has ever introduced equal pricing too, despite UK reducing corporation taxes to 15%, not 20%.
You don't add 20% to the US price and convert, nor do you add the US sales tax on and convert.
VAT is a price our government have decided is what we must pay, not the company.
Also, Samsung offered a massive trade-in offer for people who still had the Note 7, but of course that offer was not available to anyone in the UK. Again OFT not interested.
As the guy above pointed out your conversion is misleading as sellers in the UK must include VAT, however in the USA the sales tax is not included.
The fairest way is to convert the US price to UK and then add on our 20% VAT.
Apple products (being a US company) will always add margin on the products for multiple reasons, 1) to guard against currency exchange fluctuations, 2) To contribute towards the higher cost of doing business i.e.EU/UK have much higher degrees of consumer protection and 3) To account for other taxes and tariffs and even marketing.
Apple will have pegged the price based on late August / early September exchange rate of £1 = $1.28 - $1.30. Using these figures we can take $999 and convert to pounds (let's say £1 = $1.30) = £768, then add VAT = £922 thus mark up is £77.
As we have seen shifts in the exchange rate that benefit us $999 / 1.357 = £737.70 now we add on our VAT giving us a US to UK comparative rate of £885 thus £114 higher.
Just one week has swung the difference £37. Now see why products in the UK cost more for US companies? What would have happened if the currency devalued to $1.25 the iphone would only be £39 more than US.
Apple historically has never done this before, even Samsung Note 8 is pricing is fairer for UK citizens.
End of the day, Apple knows that its brand loyalty is the best and people still still buy if its £900 or £1000.
No point arguing over this, there are 100s other factors, like brand loyalty.
Samsung is not a US company
Anyway as you are quite clearly here just to grind your axe we can safely say the likely average differential is not anywhere near what you were originally quoting.
The maths work out cheaper for a 20 month Plan from apple and a sim only deal for the X 256GB.
However I do understand everyones monthly budget , upfront cost , term preference are all different.
You can get iPhone X on that contract with ur discount, maybe £100 extra over 2 years.
Through my workplace I get 15% off at Vodafone and 20% at EE, so I thought you would too.
Let's break down this cost.
£68 a month x 24 plus £30 up front = £1662
Take away the RRP at the moment.
£1662 - £949 = £713
£713 is the cost of the 60gb sim over 24 months.
£713 divided by 24 = £29.70 a month..
So you're paying more :smile:
Cheaper options
Even the most expensive option for 100gb is cheaper than Vodafone at £25 a month.
Most people will use the £18 deal as 30gb is a lot of data.
With my 7 plus 128gb I paid nothing up front (haggle) and £45.99 a month for two year contract. (loyalty)
25gb of data, unlimited minutes and texts.
Then last month they had an offer on to upgrade to the 40gb tariff for use in USA etc for an extra £2.
So now it's £47.99 a month which is a really good deal.
:laughing:
Install iOS 11. Choose one of the nice new background images. Clean reformat. Get a new phone case, or use it without a case. I'm gonna go caseless with 6S.
Save £1000 and get a new feeling
Heat added as I hadn't seen this on the apple website and it does suit my needs but get resdy for the "Chil"l from the Android Drones !!
But heat to OP for those that must have.