10% assist and only 30 miles. Run my Bosch on eco and get 50-80 miles.

Waste of money. If you can't ride a bike properly then pick up a £3k car instead.

I love the people in this post. Most of you who shun this deal have profiles full of deals about "steak at aldi", "Battlefield 1 premium pass" and "ice cream". Then you knocking e-bikes?

One of you, go to a cycle centre (if you know what it is, it grades trails for noobs who don't go off track, give you nice easy runs from blue to black), Now, the purpose of e-bikes isn't to get fatties that eat steak and play video games all day on the trails (even though you do have to move with these bikes, another missed point by all the idiots here...). It's to change the day from a leg blaster into a fun casual day. I'd have a much better time out on the trails if I wasn't sweating like a pig after doing the hard climb. Some days, in the mud, I can't even begin to enjoy myself until I've had a rest for 5 minutes at the top before descending. Also, when not on the trails, I live near a beach, the tires on this thing allow me to cover mass distance with top views, try wet sand with your "legs of steel"..... You'll never be seen again.

Now all the idiots saying this isn't exercise, please research HIIT, this is what the bike can really accel at. If you're like me and your legs already can't fit into most trousers, because they're MASSIVE, I don't actually want to train my legs anymore... I'd like to train my heart though, which pedaling the crap out of this thing WILL DO. The torque just lets you take a break if you don't want to rag it uphill.

Also, everyone saying 3.5k is expensive, change career? It's not our fault you can't buy the pretty things in life.. And we aren't showing off getting a 3.5k bike, because most people will shun them and the others will be sat on a 5k bike. Comparing them to golf clubs is also a WTF comment... The quality, ride, and handling will save your bones and equipment to the extent they will pay for themselves 10 fold in the long run. Can't really say that about many clubs...

This website is to locate good deals, not your opinion on the product. It is an amazing discount on the RRP, so shush up little boys and hit the hot button so anyone with a brain can compare this bike to the others out there.

Cold my car was cheaper, and I'm allowed to use the roads in that, without bring a dangerous obstruction.

These types of men used to spend thousands on golf club sets to show off to other little men....now they buy expensive bikes and ride around ( in fine weather only) looking ridiculous in lycra.
Is that progress? Personally I would rather keep these little men all trapped in golf courses rather than annoying the rest of us on the roads.

I cycle lots around 100 miles a week if I can, roadie and mt bike, and one of my friends bought a haibike electric, and two old guys I know have just bought a scott and a ktm electric bike, both are 65, they have their place but not for me yet.

plus points are, on eco mode you can get over 100 miles one one charge, in some cases 130 miles, then you have different power settings, makes hills and flats a breeze, or if your into freeride you wont have to wait for a uplift at a mountain bike center, you can also plug in a usb dongle which will de-restrict it, and it will easily do 30mph although your battery will discharge quicker, if your travelling to work every morning getting stuck in traffic and don't want to be hot and sweaty these bikes are superb, you will improve your fitness and they cost pennies to recharge, the bike would then pay for itself in no time..

the only downside is price(although you can get a hardtail for £2k) and they are heavy compared to a normal mountain bike.

Can I get this on PCH or PCP.

E-bikes are illegal on public roads in Northern Ireland.

Clearly people don't know what e MTBs are designed for.

Decent price if you want one. Not that I would being a roadie

£3.5k what the ... Can this bike launch off like in ET?

the op, paid 5k and has posted a saving of £1300, yet gets the mick taken by jelous people.

i will never be able to afford the 'specialist' (read title) bike posted personally, but having owned a "cheap" (~£300) electric bike (which was a great help to mobility and very fun to ride) and witnessing the cost saving EVERYWHERE on it (...bar production cost battery and motor), then a premium bike with saving of £1300 deserves heat for intended people IMHO which is obviously not the morons expecting space ships when this represents probably (the op has been informative and helpful) good value RELATIVELY speaking (i.e. vs the crappy bike i owned, which cost ~£300).

if i took my bike on the grass it would get broken and i would have mud everywhere, if the bike featured here, can cope with all terrain etc and can deliver 15mph without breaking the motor etc, then it's a feat of engineering and more then justifies the price point for INTENDED purpose IMHO.

Looks like a nice bike.
Put in perspective £3.5k is what you'd lose on a bottom of the range Ford Fiesta when you drove it out the showroom.
If you want a good bike for club riding you are talking £2 - 10k. I marvel at the bikes parked outside the cycle cafe on Sunday - there must be £50k+ of kit (and its usually not locked - so I'm not telling you where it is!).
Really good mountain bikes are similar prices.

If you work hard all week, and you've got the money - buy whatever bike you want!

Could buy a new motorcycle and have years of free motoring with what you'd pay for this "deal"

My experience of Rutland Cycles at Whitwell has been excellent service.
Bolt on motors to standard Mountain bikes would not last 5 minutes as no protection when riding over rocks and stones.

Bloody hell.. Think I'll stick with the self built job I've been running since 2009. Only done 10k miles on it in all that time, But the motor still runs good and smooth.

Good price that. I've enjoyed trying out e-bikes on demo days, and they sure make you grin. I've already had one lot of knee surgery, but came back from that well enough to continue on my regular MTB without too much pain. Another 10 or 20 years though? I think I'll be saving my pennies for an e-bike. Getting out on the trails is so amazingly awesome, to be able to carry on when parts of your body don't seem to work quite as well is great. And let's keep them at 250W max. I don't need to go above 15mph up the hills on an MTB. These are power-assist, not motorbikes.

I'm 64 with a 26 kilo Moustache Mountain e-bike - it's a fab fun machine. My run outs average 20 miles and according to the Apple Watch I'm burning 1000+ calories. It's a great way for older people to get and stay fit, given that you have the power there to get you home if you run out of puff. As to the money aspect, view it as a car substitute, fit it with panniers and do your shopping in it and it will soon pay for itself!

Nice bit of kit, and will become the norm in years to come as cycling (hopefully) keeps popularising. e-bikes are wickedly good for keeping different ages and abilities together on and off road on climbs.

The problem is on the flats - how do you keep a rider at 150w FTP rolling along with a rider with 250w FTP. e-Bikes need to be derestricted to allow some extra power above 15mph to bridge this gap. Think of couples training together for example, men and women.

You don't need all that extra 250w above 15mph, just a bit of it to compliment the leg power.

I am 58 years old and ride some realy techy stuff. I go out with lads 20 years younger than me and also a british champion enduro rider. I either stop in or get some assistance to keep up with them on the up hills. I can do all the drop offs as its got plenty of travel. Dont knock them till you have ridden one. They help people who have given up riding to get out again. Allows older riders to keep riding. Yes im getting fitter as otherwise id be stopping in watching tv.

Means you can do more runs up and down the hills before your legs give up.

i sold my e-bike after few months of owning it. I did enjoy it however the speed is just a bit on the low side. If 17.5mph i think it would have been perfect. I used to do 35 miles on country side whereas on my normal bike 10 miles tops. Also without the help of the motor the bike feels like a truck (22kg) so make sure you don't run out of juice. Now i ride a bike weighing less than 12kg.

I think the e-bike is a great commuter bike however as a pleasure bike i can't justify the price.

What's the point of it?

Why would you spend this much on a bike if you haven't got the legs to cycle?

Great deal, I ride a Haibike Sduro and it has me riding so much more and twice as far I normally would, I feel so much better for it.

This is a good bike for the money same price I paid for a Scott ebike earlier this year. I use them to assist me as I'm 39 years old and about to have my fourth hip replacement. So this enables me to go further than I could go without the assistance and helps me up the hills I started off using turbo mode and now use mainly eco mode to get fitter and to go further afield.

...takes about 1.5 hours to remove your bottom bracket and plug everything in. Halfords offered to do it for £35, but I bought a full set of tools and did it myself and I get to learn the process and keep the tools.

You can convert your existing mountain bike for about £750 with a bafang mid drive motor and approx 50 mile range battery from Eclipse bikes. I've done this and it just makes my rides so much more fun. Just remember not to plug in the throttle or to derestrict the speed limit (law says max 15.5 mph assist) and you're all legal.

i really do fancy trying one out, haibikes e-bikes were at ard rock enduro and they had demo bikes, would have demo'd but it didnt happen,

cant see me ever buying one, as i already ride further distances than these permit.
never say never though, i may need one in my 70/80s

So many clueless folk in here. I'd love to see any one of them do a downhill day.

"What, I've got to peddle 2KM back up the run?"

Rutland are a good company.

Can't comment on these as mountain bikes but the road versions are great, I cycle to work every day (baring ice) so probably do 45 weeks of the year and in horrid windy wet weather keeps me doing it with a trek road bike for the summer months. Obviously depends on your use case but I am doing over 5000 miles per year just on work travel excluding other trips. I don't own a car and don't want a moped so nothing to compare to cost wise for me.

This is why ebikes will never take off, the stupid 250w motor legal limit.

Unless motors like my bbs02 or bbsHD are legal on the roads then fatties will still take their cars, unless there's an off road way to work.

The most popular transport round my way is Mobility Scooters.

Lol ! What a price. A cycle is after all a cycle not a

Electric power doesn't work unless you pedal but pedals not included?

Is it AA or AAA battery's this takes

Looks awesome, but so would £3649.00 in my bank account. What kinda of speed and range do these do?

what's the mpg, and 0-60 :popcorn:

Do these move even if you dont pedal at all?

An electric mountain bike, doesn't that defeat the reason of a mountain bike? The weight must, be a killer going over the ruff stuff, which mountain bikes are designed for.

They don't list the bike weight, in the description.

That's a expensive bike :astonished:

If you decide the electric way you can call it an e-wheelchair!!

Or two electric motors whatever rocks yer boat or tickles yer pickle!

Here's an idea, get a wheelchair and add a two small 60cc engines would cost about £150 or less to make and you've got yourself a perfectly mobile racing machine!!!!

Does come with Alfred?

I can assure you at this price its a bargain. Top spec if you know your bikes. There are plenty at £5k plus at this spec even £7k and more

Nice bike...but in this day and age perhaps too nice! I'd expect you'd soon gain the attention of scumbag moped gangs if you live anywhere other than Timbuktu.

R u having a laugh?

It depends on how much assist you use. In eco mode at 10% assist I have done over 30 miles. Speed is maxed at 15mph but you can pedal faster under your own effort. Pedal assist finishes at 15mph. You can make them faster but that is against UK law but I have heard 30mph is acheivable either software update or dongle.