Today and possibly tomorrow Shell V Power Fuel is the same price as regular unleaded (£1.149 p/l) This is a fantastic price. Gutted that I already had half a tank! The price reduction is due to the garage closing tomorrow for four months for refurbishment, all fuel has to go!
17 comments
winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#1
How on earth do you think this at £1.14 a later is good. This is 7p more than my local asda. Not a good deal. She'll fuel is no better than any other fuel.
spaceghost to winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#2
It's V Power, not standard 95RON unleaded. Heat from me.
speric07 to winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#3
It's a higher octane to the Asda £1.07 fuel, 99 vs 95.
ldx00 to winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#5
This is just not true, both for petrol and diesel. For petrols you will get better mpg and for diesels it'll keep your injectors clean. I wouldn't put the good stuff every time but one in every 5-6 tanks, I put the good stuff in my diesel and it does help me return better mpg. Can't advise on the petrol but at the very least it'll return better mpg, especially if it's a performance vehicle. I have to admit it's unlikely you'll make back the difference in fuel price with your improved mpg, but for the diesel, that isn't the primary reason I'm doing it. I have colleagues in the fuel additives business so don't lump me in with your usual car forum reading know it all. Just so you know, for the diesels it is the additives that make the difference, the base diesel fuel is much the same everywhere. Cheaper fuels contain a mix of either cheaper additives, or just less of them. They do help keep injectors clean, but you have to be careful as badly deigned additives can actually damage your injectors over time too. I therefore advise against the additives you see in places like Halfords. If you want, just buy the better fuel for a bit and put in a few tanks worth. It'll likely be cheaper and achieve much the same, but more safely.
LionelRichieFan to winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#9
Per mile I save about 10% from shell v power over supermarket cheapest stuff. I have tested it over the course of dozens of tanks of fuel, and I always get around 10% more miles per pound.
I would use it if it broke even, or was slightly more expensive per pound because of the performance increase, and the benefit to the engine, but the fact it is cheaper by ~10% when you take relative MPGs into account makes it a no brainer for me, plus you get to earn shell v power points as well, so that adds further savings for me down the line
It will depend on your car/bike, but it isn't just performance cars by any stretch. You would be suprised, calculate your avg MPG currently, then switch to vpower for a couple of tanks, see what/if any effect it has on your car. Worst case scenario you lose 3 quid finding out it doesn't work for your car, however running your car on Vpower for a couple of tanks will do it a lot of good, it has a lot of cleaning additives that other fuels don't have, so you won't have wasted the 3 quid finding out anyway.
stuellis to LionelRichieFan
9 Aug 17#12
This is my findings too plus smoother idle and pull away in all cars I have tried.
ianshona to winter_zombie
9 Aug 17#15
Good effort.....
Brownbloke11
9 Aug 17#4
Unnecessary though for most cars - just Shell's way to increase their profits at the expense of the boy-racers who think their cars need higher octane fuels. Looking forward to all those electric cars buzzing around by 2040 and seeing how the oil companies make their exorbitant profits then :-)
the_bargain_hunter to Brownbloke11
9 Aug 17#6
Better mileage and cleaner engine, and this is a proven FACT, not necessarily a "boy racer" thing..
vulcanproject to Brownbloke11
9 Aug 17#8
Yes, for most cars as you said.
But for people with performance cars it is often justifiable. Modern performance cars, particularly turbocharged ones have learning ECUs that can subtly alter ignition and boost etc after getting used to higher quality fuel.
They can see decent performance gains over 95 octane AND some tests I have seen offer small economy gains. Not much in terms of economy, but enough that you can basically get the extra performance from the fuel for free. Even a 1MPG gain seen in some tests makes the difference in cost per tank small. So there is no reason to NOT have the premium.
I will stress, if you think this applies to your 84bhp 1.2 Corsa, then no. If however you have a 300bhp turbocharged Ford Focus RS for example, then yes, the case for premium fuel is strong.
Cheap_as_Chimps
9 Aug 17#7
Great price for V-Power!
monkeyhanger75
9 Aug 17#10
Good price for V-power. However, Tesco Momentum 99 is just as good and usually cheaper (nor in this case). I use Costco Premium Unleaded (also RON 99) and it is about 112p per litre. All 3 fuels have felt the same for mpg and response in my R.
RON97/98/99 fuels only really benefit cars designed to use it as a preferred fuel, because they're running a higher compression ratio. My Golf R is set up for this and will run at a lower output on the standard stuff. If your car isn't set up for this stuff then you may see negligible gains due to the better detergent set these premium fuels have.
Vpower diesel is a total waste on mpg and power, it is about 8% less energy dense than regular diesel due to the synthetic diesel content, and its Cetane number isn't as high as it could be. When I got a new Golf GTD, I decided it was only having Vpower. It felt sluggish and thirsty next to the Scirocco170TDI it replaced, until I changed to regular diesel and my mpg went up 10%. Vpower diesel is very clean (again, down to the synthesised portion), but I wouldn't recommend it.
Toon_army
9 Aug 17#11
I'm never away from Whitemare Shell, should really have shares with the amount of fuel I use lol. I remember the good old days of Optimax before it was V-power, the smell was a lot stronger back then when you came on boost.
Also if you have the Shell app, put 15 litres in and you'll get 100 bonus points.
stressedman
9 Aug 17#13
The v power diesel gives me about 10% better mpg. I drive a 2.4 turbo d. About 265bhp. I get better mpg and the engine runs smoother for a few fills after. Good to use these now and then
maltloaf_df
9 Aug 17#14
I mostly swear by Tesco momentum 99 in my 340bhp audi s3. The Ecu alters the timing and lowers the power (slightly) if you use lower octane fuel - it's even mentioned in the owner's manual. I wouldn't put Asda crap in it, ever. I get v-power or momentum 99.
Speedbirdjw to maltloaf_df
29 Aug 17#16
How're you getting 340 out of your S3? Even more reason for some 9
maltloaf_df to Speedbirdjw
29 Aug 17#17
It's an 8P S3. They start off at 265bhp. Stage 2 remap plus some light mods on mine.
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I would use it if it broke even, or was slightly more expensive per pound because of the performance increase, and the benefit to the engine, but the fact it is cheaper by ~10% when you take relative MPGs into account makes it a no brainer for me, plus you get to earn shell v power points as well, so that adds further savings for me down the line
It will depend on your car/bike, but it isn't just performance cars by any stretch. You would be suprised, calculate your avg MPG currently, then switch to vpower for a couple of tanks, see what/if any effect it has on your car. Worst case scenario you lose 3 quid finding out it doesn't work for your car, however running your car on Vpower for a couple of tanks will do it a lot of good, it has a lot of cleaning additives that other fuels don't have, so you won't have wasted the 3 quid finding out anyway.
But for people with performance cars it is often justifiable. Modern performance cars, particularly turbocharged ones have learning ECUs that can subtly alter ignition and boost etc after getting used to higher quality fuel.
They can see decent performance gains over 95 octane AND some tests I have seen offer small economy gains. Not much in terms of economy, but enough that you can basically get the extra performance from the fuel for free. Even a 1MPG gain seen in some tests makes the difference in cost per tank small. So there is no reason to NOT have the premium.
I will stress, if you think this applies to your 84bhp 1.2 Corsa, then no. If however you have a 300bhp turbocharged Ford Focus RS for example, then yes, the case for premium fuel is strong.
RON97/98/99 fuels only really benefit cars designed to use it as a preferred fuel, because they're running a higher compression ratio. My Golf R is set up for this and will run at a lower output on the standard stuff. If your car isn't set up for this stuff then you may see negligible gains due to the better detergent set these premium fuels have.
Vpower diesel is a total waste on mpg and power, it is about 8% less energy dense than regular diesel due to the synthetic diesel content, and its Cetane number isn't as high as it could be. When I got a new Golf GTD, I decided it was only having Vpower. It felt sluggish and thirsty next to the Scirocco170TDI it replaced, until I changed to regular diesel and my mpg went up 10%. Vpower diesel is very clean (again, down to the synthesised portion), but I wouldn't recommend it.
I remember the good old days of Optimax before it was V-power, the smell was a lot stronger back then when you came on boost.
Also if you have the Shell app, put 15 litres in and you'll get 100 bonus points.