"The UB300 delivers awe-inspiring cinema-quality entertainment to your 4K TV. Ultra HD Premium certified, as well as playing 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays, it upscales Full HD content to breathtakingly detailed 4K resolution. Supporting HDR, and armed with Panasonic's 4K High-Precision Chroma Processor, it offers a picture quality of stunning detail, depth, and a staggering colour range. With High Resolution Audio, its sound quality is just as amazing as the visuals, and you can connect it to the internet via cable to open up the world of 4K streaming..."
Its about time 4k players take a drop in price...heat from me although i did buy a xbox one s just for 4k .. like to see the how it compares to the xbox one s
SamBalmforth to robert260574
28 Aug 17#3
Xbox one s is possibly the worst 4k blu ray player, however it is 4k.
The Panasonic's are good for the money, especially this price. But don't rely on Xbox one s for true 4k Blu-ray content.
matengawhat to SamBalmforth
28 Aug 17#4
Why?
SamBalmforth to matengawhat
28 Aug 17#5
Well, compared to a dedicated UHD blu ray player whose sole job is to play 4k content, the games console pales in comparison.
It's a 4k player, but it's not a great one. Google it for more info.
matengawhat to SamBalmforth
28 Aug 17#7
See i was interested by your response as i have 2 dedicated 4k players, 1 pan/1samsung and 2 xbox ones s and initially because of the audio issue never used my xbox one for 4k playback but with recent updates started doing quite a few back to back comparisons with 2 different 4k tvs/5.1/7.1 setups and really struggling to tell the difference. I have had a couple of lipsynch issues along the way but thats it, seems im not the only one, just pick up a media remote to make life easier and cant really fault it
Also if you had asked me 6 months ago i would have agreed with you hands down but my opinion has changed
ipswich78 to SamBalmforth
30 Aug 17#13
The Xbox One S is far from a bad 4k player either... A lot of these reviews are by experts using measuring technology etc. I would bet more often than not average Joe would not be able to tell the difference.
Dekard97 to robert260574
28 Aug 17#6
The Panasonic will be far better quality than the Xbox One, not just my opinion, I read a review on it not long ago. It's nice that the Xbox added the feature, but apparently it doesn't stand up to scrutiny against a dedicated Panasonic 4K machine. I have the Samsung 4K bluray player and that is meant to be a step down from the Panasonic in terms of colour and image quality, but still superior to the Xbox bluray.
Saying that, I got my 4K player as part of a TV package deal. I have the original Xbox One without the feature so suits me. Although i don't watch a lot of 4K bluray discs, so I'd be more than happy if I only had the Xbox to play them on
1an4492
28 Aug 17#2
Yeah I'd be interested as well. Problem being the price of the discs. Over £20 a film is too much for me
FunkiestMonkey to 1an4492
30 Aug 17#15
Never paid over 20 for a disk.
1an4492
28 Aug 17#8
Just read that review. I'll stick to my Xbox then
indyjukebox to 1an4492
29 Aug 17#11
I think you will find that the avforums reviews are quite basic and naive. They rarely state what test setup they use, very little technical details and bang on about how 0's and 1's cannot vary from player to player. If that is the case, then why bother reviewing a device? Other than to comment on ergonomics or interface issues.
If you look at the hdtvtest link, you will see that the Xbox one S has an incorrect colour decoding and hence outputs a different picture than intended by the disc/manufacturer.
On my 65 OLED, these details do become more evident, although the XB1S is fine to drive my smaller 32 LCD in the kitchen (rather nosily though). Depending on your setup, needs and sensitivity to such changes; you may or may not find the XB1S good enough. But do take the avforums reviews with a large pinch of salt. I love my XB1S, but it is inferior to Panasonic/Sony and Oppo's 4K players.
FunkiestMonkey to indyjukebox
30 Aug 17#16
I agree with this but would people be able to tell the difference unless the pictures were side by side? And furthermore would they necessarily prefer the correctly colour decoded picture? And how many people have a display that is correctly set up for colour?
indyjukebox to FunkiestMonkey
31 Aug 17#17
Very true. Hence why I said "based on needs, setup and sensitivity to such issues".
FunkiestMonkey to indyjukebox
1 Sep 17#18
I defy anybody to tell the difference in their living room having not calibrated the screen.
dead4red69
28 Aug 17#9
The Xbox one s is an OK Uhd player, but the colour reproduction is off. Hdtv test covered it in their review of the oppo 203
For comparison, one of the cheapest 4K Blu-ray players on the market today, Microsoft’s Xbox One S, gets this wrong (at the time of writing, May 2017). The game console decodes all content to RGB, which on its own isn’t an issue, but it does so with the wrong matrix, resulting in incorrect color reproduction. OPPO’s player, like most on the market, outputs the video in its native Y/Cb/Cr space, meaning that the color decoding step here is performed by the display. Although the console does have an option called “Allow YCC 4:2:2″ in its menus, this appears only to convert the internally decoded RGB back to Y/Cb/Cr; the erroneous color decoding step is still performed beforehand. (Thanks to Florian Freidrich for both the color bars test pattern via the Samsung test disc, and the tip-off).
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The player at Panasonic: panasonic.com/uk/…tml
FULL technical specs list here: panasonic.com/uk/…tml
AVForums Review (9/10): avforums.com/rev…700
"The UB300 delivers awe-inspiring cinema-quality entertainment to your 4K TV. Ultra HD Premium certified, as well as playing 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays, it upscales Full HD content to breathtakingly detailed 4K resolution. Supporting HDR, and armed with Panasonic's 4K High-Precision Chroma Processor, it offers a picture quality of stunning detail, depth, and a staggering colour range. With High Resolution Audio, its sound quality is just as amazing as the visuals, and you can connect it to the internet via cable to open up the world of 4K streaming..."
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Also available at Amazon for the same lowest price: amazon.co.uk/dp/…KD/
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The Panasonic's are good for the money, especially this price. But don't rely on Xbox one s for true 4k Blu-ray content.
It's a 4k player, but it's not a great one. Google it for more info.
avforums.com/rev…709
Also if you had asked me 6 months ago i would have agreed with you hands down but my opinion has changed
Saying that, I got my 4K player as part of a TV package deal. I have the original Xbox One without the feature so suits me. Although i don't watch a lot of 4K bluray discs, so I'd be more than happy if I only had the Xbox to play them on
If you look at the hdtvtest link, you will see that the Xbox one S has an incorrect colour decoding and hence outputs a different picture than intended by the disc/manufacturer.
On my 65 OLED, these details do become more evident, although the XB1S is fine to drive my smaller 32 LCD in the kitchen (rather nosily though). Depending on your setup, needs and sensitivity to such changes; you may or may not find the XB1S good enough. But do take the avforums reviews with a large pinch of salt. I love my XB1S, but it is inferior to Panasonic/Sony and Oppo's 4K players.
And furthermore would they necessarily prefer the correctly colour decoded picture?
And how many people have a display that is correctly set up for colour?
For comparison, one of the cheapest 4K Blu-ray players on the market today, Microsoft’s Xbox One S, gets this wrong (at the time of writing, May 2017). The game console decodes all content to RGB, which on its own isn’t an issue, but it does so with the wrong matrix, resulting in incorrect color reproduction. OPPO’s player, like most on the market, outputs the video in its native Y/Cb/Cr space, meaning that the color decoding step here is performed by the display. Although the console does have an option called “Allow YCC 4:2:2″ in its menus, this appears only to convert the internally decoded RGB back to Y/Cb/Cr; the erroneous color decoding step is still performed beforehand. (Thanks to Florian Freidrich for both the color bars test pattern via the Samsung test disc, and the tip-off).
hdtvtest.co.uk/new…htm
i suppose there must be other rental servises out there though