3.2 Gbps - the combined Wi-Fi speed for uninterrupted streaming with NETGEAR genie with remote access
Tri-Band Wi-Fi delivers more Wi-Fi to more devices, six high performance antennas and powerful amplifiers deliver maximum range throughout home
1 GHz dual core processor with three offload processors to boost performance and smart connect intelligently selects Wi-Fi for every device( modem required)
Implicit and explicit beamforming focuses Wi-Fi signals, delivers strong connections for all the mobile devices and USB 3.0 port delivers high-speed storage access
Free ReadySHARE Vault app provides automatic backup for Windows PCs directly to connected USB storage devices, NetGear Genie - easy install and personal dashboard to monitor, control and repairs the home network
Modem Not included
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Batmobile543
21 Aug 17#1
Don't forget to collect 20% voucher. Bought one for £115. Wonderful OP
searsp
21 Aug 17#2
Good price OP. Are these top end routers still worth it? I have a Virgin SH3 with pretty average Wi-Fi range - would something like Google Wi-Fi not be a better (albeit more expensive) solution?
ezzer72 to searsp
21 Aug 17#3
This would perform better than your freebie router, but not as good as a much more expensive mesh system such as the Google one
AndiTails to searsp
21 Aug 17#7
100% worth it, yes. Not only will this router give you a lot more options over the SH3 but the range will be significantly better than the SH3. Lastly, putting the SH3 in modem mode and running a router like this will improve your Virgin Media speed in general, too. Win Win.
A cheese grater with a network cable attached to it would be better than BT's HomeHub.
johnthehuman to AndiTails
21 Aug 17#10
Have you used a SmartHub or HH5 from BT?
Had mine a year now, and I game regularly with a ping of < 20ms, saturate my Infinity line (at 50 / 10) and can stream 4K60 games to nVidia shield, over 5Ghz WiFi from the PC upstairs to the telly in the lounge, without a hiccup. There's nothing wrong with the Homehub.
Most of the time, people complain about BT Hubs, or routers in general, when they have really cheap wi-fi adapters in their pc or laptop causing the poor performance.
AndiTails to johnthehuman
22 Aug 17#21
Yes. And when they work, they are good. But the problem is their failure rate and WiFi-dropouts. My experiences are with having to change them out 2-3 times a year for friends/family/etc. And I still find the range appalling in comparison to routers with actual aerials. Let alone random devices/phones which just can't connect to it / stay connected.
I'm sure they're great for people in flats, or very boxey houses new builds with thin walls and no neighbours. But shove one in a long thin Victorian house with 10 neighbouring SSIDs and it'll manage half the house, whereas an 'aerialed' router will stretch further.
1. Yes, my mistake. In my haste I mistook it for the Asus RT-AC5300. You can still install DD-WRT on the R8000, which is what AsusWRT is actually based on. So same result.
2. SH3 has issues. You have a SH2, so perhaps haven't experienced them first hand. I'm on 300/20 on VM, and you have to use the SH3 - and it's terrible. The router interface takes up to a minute to load pages, and I struggled to speed-test faster than 150mbit/sec. Installed a router and placed into Modem Mode, and speed-test now always exceed 280mbit/sec at peak, and I've sustained downloads at 38.1MB/sec. There's also a known 'feature' of the SH3 where it slows VPNs (although they recently added the PPTP passthrough, it's buggy and slow). Placing into Modem Mode removes this restriction. So, as the poster said they had a SH3 - it would indeed be recommended to use it in Modem Mode, and they mostly likely will see a speed increase if they are on 200/20 (VIVID Gamer) or 300/20 (VIVID 300).
3. Whilst the HomeHub 5 and 6 may be an improvement on the HH4 and before, that's a bit like saying pneumonia is an improvement over lung cancer. Try reading the BTCare website and all the on-going WiFi-dropout issues on the HH6. BT denied a similar issue on the HH5 for over a year, then mysteriously released a firmware update to 'fix WiFi-dropout issues'. I'm sure a reviewer playing with the device for a couple of hours doesn't normally get the full picture. And agreed, buy a cheap router in replacement, and it's not worth it. But this isn't a cheap router.
wackymaky to AndiTails
21 Aug 17#17
I'm sure you're a great guy @AndiTails but this is just a horrendous piece of misinformation.
1. This is a Netgear router not an Asus one, does not have Asus WRT.
2.Putting any Virigin SH into modem mode does not increase the speed (read bandwidth) coming into your home.
3. The home hub line hasn't had the best history yes, but the Home hub 5 and the current 'smart hub' (home hub 6) are astoundingly excellent, and have been given around 10/10 by almost all tech reviews out there. Since home hub 5 (2014 i think) home hubs have led the way for ISP provided routers. In general, if you have a HH5 or HH6 upgrading for anything less than ~£100 will be a sidegrade if not a downgrade.
Funnily enough as much as i advocate for the home hub I am not using one at the moment, current set up is Virigin SH2 and Netgear R7800 (which i got in the prime day deals). While netgear products tend to be excellent, the R8000 has not been excellently reviewed, an excerpt from Dong nmo at Cnet:
"The router has a buggy 2.4Ghz band and comparatively short Wi-Fi range, and -- when all is working as intended -- it doesn't perform any better than other AC1900 routers. It's also crazily expensive."
While I voted hot because this is technically a good 'deal' there are better routers out there if you are prepared to spend this kind of money on one, though I must concede it looks cool.
P.S. the AC3200 is a complete marketing gimmick, I cannot think of a household or even small-medium office situation where there are enough 5GHZ devices to simultaneously saturate two separate streams of 1300 Mbps.
P.P.S This router is OLD, hailing from 2014.
wakkaday
21 Aug 17#4
Will this allow port opening and other stuff so I can accsss remotely without static ip
AndiTails to wakkaday
21 Aug 17#8
Yes.
Probably not.
mastermjr20041
21 Aug 17#5
Is this worth an upgrade from the R7000?
anthony401
21 Aug 17#6
Does anyone know if this would be a good replacement for my BT router that arrived in Summer 2016?
rossington
21 Aug 17#9
I don't suppose anyone has a link to a page which shows other products included in the Gamescom 20% off promotion? I've looked but can't seem to find anything, it seems a badly promoted offer by Amazon.
I used to have Nighthawk 7800 (which is actually newer than this model)
I got wireless speeds of around 240 meg a floor above (on a 300 meg dl) - which was awesome as superhub wifi speed was all over the place - usually around 150meg)
Then this came on offer on Prime Day for £114 - so I bought it as its wireless reach is advertised as better than the 7800.
This gets me 300 meg dl on the floor above (wifi) - and 310 meg dl when hardwired to shub3.
However it does have a funny habit of "losing" the wifi connection every week or so - a reboot sorts it ou t (can be done remotely from the phone app - Genie) - but its a little worrying.
It was a good move for me - Just giving you my "real world" experience.
Dave
jimbo001 to whiteswan
21 Aug 17#12
I have heard that these new Netgear routers have a habit of clunking out, sad because I would've bought this!
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A cheese grater with a network cable attached to it would be better than BT's HomeHub.
Had mine a year now, and I game regularly with a ping of < 20ms, saturate my Infinity line (at 50 / 10) and can stream 4K60 games to nVidia shield, over 5Ghz WiFi from the PC upstairs to the telly in the lounge, without a hiccup. There's nothing wrong with the Homehub.
Most of the time, people complain about BT Hubs, or routers in general, when they have really cheap wi-fi adapters in their pc or laptop causing the poor performance.
I'm sure they're great for people in flats, or very boxey houses new builds with thin walls and no neighbours.
But shove one in a long thin Victorian house with 10 neighbouring SSIDs and it'll manage half the house, whereas an 'aerialed' router will stretch further.
1. Yes, my mistake. In my haste I mistook it for the Asus RT-AC5300. You can still install DD-WRT on the R8000, which is what AsusWRT is actually based on. So same result.
2. SH3 has issues. You have a SH2, so perhaps haven't experienced them first hand. I'm on 300/20 on VM, and you have to use the SH3 - and it's terrible. The router interface takes up to a minute to load pages, and I struggled to speed-test faster than 150mbit/sec. Installed a router and placed into Modem Mode, and speed-test now always exceed 280mbit/sec at peak, and I've sustained downloads at 38.1MB/sec. There's also a known 'feature' of the SH3 where it slows VPNs (although they recently added the PPTP passthrough, it's buggy and slow). Placing into Modem Mode removes this restriction. So, as the poster said they had a SH3 - it would indeed be recommended to use it in Modem Mode, and they mostly likely will see a speed increase if they are on 200/20 (VIVID Gamer) or 300/20 (VIVID 300).
3. Whilst the HomeHub 5 and 6 may be an improvement on the HH4 and before, that's a bit like saying pneumonia is an improvement over lung cancer. Try reading the BTCare website and all the on-going WiFi-dropout issues on the HH6. BT denied a similar issue on the HH5 for over a year, then mysteriously released a firmware update to 'fix WiFi-dropout issues'. I'm sure a reviewer playing with the device for a couple of hours doesn't normally get the full picture. And agreed, buy a cheap router in replacement, and it's not worth it. But this isn't a cheap router.
1. This is a Netgear router not an Asus one, does not have Asus WRT.
2.Putting any Virigin SH into modem mode does not increase the speed (read bandwidth) coming into your home.
3. The home hub line hasn't had the best history yes, but the Home hub 5 and the current 'smart hub' (home hub 6) are astoundingly excellent, and have been given around 10/10 by almost all tech reviews out there. Since home hub 5 (2014 i think) home hubs have led the way for ISP provided routers. In general, if you have a HH5 or HH6 upgrading for anything less than ~£100 will be a sidegrade if not a downgrade.
Funnily enough as much as i advocate for the home hub I am not using one at the moment, current set up is Virigin SH2 and Netgear R7800 (which i got in the prime day deals). While netgear products tend to be excellent, the R8000 has not been excellently reviewed, an excerpt from Dong nmo at Cnet:
"The router has a buggy 2.4Ghz band and comparatively short Wi-Fi range, and -- when all is working as intended -- it doesn't perform any better than other AC1900 routers. It's also crazily expensive."
While I voted hot because this is technically a good 'deal' there are better routers out there if you are prepared to spend this kind of money on one, though I must concede it looks cool.
P.S. the AC3200 is a complete marketing gimmick, I cannot think of a household or even small-medium office situation where there are enough 5GHZ devices to simultaneously saturate two separate streams of 1300 Mbps.
P.P.S This router is OLD, hailing from 2014.
Probably not.
Edit: Found it - amazon.co.uk/PC-…031
I have VM on Superhub 3.
I used to have Nighthawk 7800 (which is actually newer than this model)
I got wireless speeds of around 240 meg a floor above (on a 300 meg dl) - which was awesome as superhub wifi speed was all over the place - usually around 150meg)
Then this came on offer on Prime Day for £114 - so I bought it as its wireless reach is advertised as better than the 7800.
This gets me 300 meg dl on the floor above (wifi) - and 310 meg dl when hardwired to shub3.
However it does have a funny habit of "losing" the wifi connection every week or so - a reboot sorts it ou t (can be done remotely from the phone app - Genie) - but its a little worrying.
It was a good move for me - Just giving you my "real world" experience.
Dave