I just found this walkie talkie price drop a lot today. This can be used for driving and hotel.
Available for 2 plug: EU plug and US plug
Features: Mini size slim. Built-in flashlight function, listing function, radio function, scan function, alarm function, keyboard lock function. 20 memory channels, voice prompts and electricity reminder. Charger connector and Andrews phone interface can be universal.
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I_SHOULD_COCO
17 Aug 17#1
These are Baofeng, which is a recognised brand in hand helds
rhinopaul to I_SHOULD_COCO
17 Aug 17#3
Before reading the rest of your sentence, I thought Baofeng was some kind of new trendy word for cack. .
M1LFHunter to rhinopaul
17 Aug 17#12
It is now.
Shambles
17 Aug 17#2
I'm guessing these work better in pairs... so need to purchase 2 of the blighters.
Noghar
17 Aug 17#4
Why do I get the impression the OP is connected to BangGood somehow?
magpiecleaningco to Noghar
17 Aug 17#37
If so, the range on these must be great...
ghostm4n to magpiecleaningco
17 Aug 17#40
LOL, ok that tickled me :joy: :joy:
gavin1
17 Aug 17#5
For anyone thinking of buying these they would be illegal to use here in the UK without either a UK Simple license (£75 for 5 years) or both users having at least a foundation level Radio Ham license.
The only license free option in the UK is the PMR446 series, this is too powerful at 2W (PMR is limited to .5W) and it does not have the preset and unchangeable frequency's that the PMR license required.
And Yes I fully understand that being caught is unlikely, but best poeple know these are not legal in the UK up front.
Werdna to gavin1
17 Aug 17#7
Thanks for sharing, I wasn't really interested in buying these until I read this!
neilcaldwell to Werdna
17 Aug 17#23
Me neither, but now I know they are 4 times more powerful than a std. PMR I'm well interested!
greenant to gavin1
17 Aug 17#13
Very useful info. Thanks. The specs say 5W not 2W?
Probably asking too much at this price but don't suppose comms is encrypted in any way
gavin1 to greenant
17 Aug 17#19
The PMR446 specs say the radio output should be 0.5W I think the font in use made the point before the 5 almost invisible...
And no you will not get encryption at this price, if you want to use Analog radio you need to go either to "proper" brands such as Motorola who made encryption boards, or go to the mid range digital sets. Usually you have to stay with the same brand if you want to use encryption, and depending on the brand and type of encrption it may be easily defeated.
smckirdy to gavin1
17 Aug 17#25
Most baofeng radios can be programmed easily and simply locked to PMR, it doesn't need to be a manufacturers lock from my understanding you can simply do it in software. All the Baofeng's I've used have had the output power being pretty easy to operate. I've got a set of UHF baofengs for training cadets and I've split them at full power on out MOD frequencies and 0.5W at a selection of PMR. It's not too much of an issue as we have an MOD issued operators license so not subject to amateur rules, but it's easy to stay within with most of the baofengs with a bit of programming.
Also they aren't inherently illegal, you can own a radio, any radio you want, you don't require a license. It's operating it that requires licensing or qualification unless you reprogramme it to comply.
gavin1 to smckirdy
17 Aug 17#28
I'd read PMR446 requires the frequencies and power to be fixed so the end user cannot change them, even if you set these to the same specification it does not make them legal as PMR446 devices as its possible to select a non PMR frequency and over power. PMR used to require integral antennae too, but I half remember Ofcom relaxed that in the UK. (these radios have an integrated antennae, many baofengs don't) but the underlying European Regs still require a non removable antennae.
However I get your point that to all intents and purposes they are PMR spec one locked down and its only illegal to transmit not own a radio.
That said its better people know they should not just buy these and use them without at least checking and restricting the devices than buy them and use them out of the box, and cause problems to other users. I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone starts using a full power baofeng handies on the same frequencies as your cadets and so swamping them out when they are out in the field.
smckirdy to gavin1
17 Aug 17#31
It's only in respect to the user transmitting as far as I know, so as long as you have the frequencies locked in prior to use(not an issue on these since they are fixed channel anyway) then that's fine. The integral part was relaxed in the UK as far as I know, but the EU system is separate than ours as spectrums aren't standardised across Europe. But many of the cheap baofengs are integrated, mostly for that reason. Generally they sell these on the principle that you can program them for your local jurisdiction or usage i.e. PMR, business license etc. as those all vary by country, these are actually fairly specifically targeted at businesses so they would need to reprogram them. They could just sell them blank, or pre set to PMR or an equivalent, but nobody does that.
I wouldn't mind too much, they are after all still line of sight so even at full power it's not that big a difference. And it wouldn't be the first time I've invited local users without a clue down for a radio lesson, it's a good way to show bad practice and get someone new for the cadets to talk to and do a bit of community engagement.
RoosterNo1
17 Aug 17#6
99% of the container ships from china contain "illegal" stuff... this isnt a children's forum.
JCod32
17 Aug 17#8
Why would I want to connect an interface to Andrew's phone?
luckylad57
17 Aug 17#9
The frequency displayed on the handset is not covered by the uk simple licence which only covers 15 preset frequencies 407 is not one of them .
gavin1 to luckylad57
17 Aug 17#15
I was trying not to be too specific so it wasn't a long post. I would assume if you knew enough to have a UK simple or ham license you; know what frequencies you could legally use.
The radios can be set to anything between 400 and 470, there are three frequencies these could be set to in order to comply with UK Simple license terms, and Amatuer radio license holders could use channels between 430 and 440MHz, with a restriction of not using 431 to 432 within 100KM of Charring Cross station.
And I think 407Mhz is one of those frequencies that are primarily assigned to the MOD, with a few civilian exceptions.....
luckylad57
17 Aug 17#10
Also the ham licence does not cover 407 either :sunglasses:
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Opening post
Available for 2 plug: EU plug and US plug
Features:
Mini size slim.
Built-in flashlight function, listing function, radio function, scan function, alarm function, keyboard lock function.
20 memory channels, voice prompts and electricity reminder.
Charger connector and Andrews phone interface can be universal.
All comments (49)
The only license free option in the UK is the PMR446 series, this is too powerful at 2W (PMR is limited to .5W) and it does not have the preset and unchangeable frequency's that the PMR license required.
And Yes I fully understand that being caught is unlikely, but best poeple know these are not legal in the UK up front.
Probably asking too much at this price but don't suppose comms is encrypted in any way
And no you will not get encryption at this price, if you want to use Analog radio you need to go either to "proper" brands such as Motorola who made encryption boards, or go to the mid range digital sets. Usually you have to stay with the same brand if you want to use encryption, and depending on the brand and type of encrption it may be easily defeated.
Also they aren't inherently illegal, you can own a radio, any radio you want, you don't require a license. It's operating it that requires licensing or qualification unless you reprogramme it to comply.
However I get your point that to all intents and purposes they are PMR spec one locked down and its only illegal to transmit not own a radio.
That said its better people know they should not just buy these and use them without at least checking and restricting the devices than buy them and use them out of the box, and cause problems to other users. I'm sure you'd be annoyed if someone starts using a full power baofeng handies on the same frequencies as your cadets and so swamping them out when they are out in the field.
I wouldn't mind too much, they are after all still line of sight so even at full power it's not that big a difference. And it wouldn't be the first time I've invited local users without a clue down for a radio lesson, it's a good way to show bad practice and get someone new for the cadets to talk to and do a bit of community engagement.
The radios can be set to anything between 400 and 470, there are three frequencies these could be set to in order to comply with UK Simple license terms, and Amatuer radio license holders could use channels between 430 and 440MHz, with a restriction of not using 431 to 432 within 100KM of Charring Cross station.
And I think 407Mhz is one of those frequencies that are primarily assigned to the MOD, with a few civilian exceptions.....