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Been a Rift user since launch, never had tracking problems...you'd be mad to go for a Vive even with the price cut.

But as i said, even if you buy the rift and a third sensor, you are still going to be about £130 in pocket over buying the Vive,and i think Vive missed the boat, i think Rift may have caught the VR hold outs with the summer sale and now that lower price point, and i think Vive might just be regretting that move because Steam will be able to show them just how many more new rift owners are buying VR games on the steam platform, and i bet they are kicking themselves.

^^As for the front facing camera, good idea for altered reality, i remember the 3DS and those cards that made use of the camera, i would like to see my room actually be in a vr game, i think that would be quite interesting.

No one has mentioned that the Vive has a front facing camera on it so you can see the room boundaries. Many might not see this as a bonus and like the extra excitement from dodging the experience of sparking themselves out on a bookshelf or other piece of furniture :relaxed:

Seated the CV1 and Vive might be on par but once you start walking about it's a different experience :astonished:

There will be pros and cons to either a Vive or a Rift, but either is a good choice

Vive Pros:

Tracking doesn't require lengthy USB cables for room-scale
Will be supported by Knuckle controllers (whenever they're released)

Vive Cons:

3rd party app required to play Oculus funded games


Rift Pros:
Can play both Oculus funded & Steam games
£200 cheaper than Vive
It is pretty much accepted that Touch controllers are better than Vive controllers

Rift Cons:
Requires a 3rd sensor (£50),long USB cables, and a total of 4 USB ports for roomscale

Why is this in the Mobiles section?

still seems far too expensive compared to a right at £400, its 50% more. And very little difference from what I have read and tried.

Still somewhat expensive when you can get a Rift bundle at £200 cheaper for £399, on the same site, who are Vive aiming this at, people with a spare £200 that's covered in ebola. lol

Haha! You’re kidding yourself if you think this isn’t better than a rift. It’s vastly superior if you have the room to walk around in, which is what the vive is all about. If you’re just sat on a chair, then yes, save your money and get a rift, but if you want to see the best VR can do right now, then get a vive.

That said, I won’t buy at the price, as I still find the screen door effect FAR to distracting.
Ultimately though, this is about a deal for this product and this is a good deal, though you’ll find most places have gone to £599 now so not vastly different than elsewhere, but certainly much better than yesterday.

if vat didnt exist it would still be more expensive though so thats not a good excuse

The Vive is not a £200 better system, and it's definitely not a £300 better system (after buying the deluxe headstrap for £100, which brings it up to comfort and convenience levels similar to the Rift, such as the integrated headphones).

Rift tracking is much improved from its early days. You can try standing 360 with 2 sensors, which is reported to work well, or 3m x 3m room scale with 3 reddit.com/r/o…ale

Or even larger areas with 4 reddit.com/r/o…ale

But as the above user said, how many users have space for over 3x3? Standing and small space movement with Rift is fantastic, if you set it up right

Strange, my rift works perfectly for large room scale.

Even for smaller space room scale, I'd say the Vive is a lot better - it was designed for room scale whereas the Rift clearly wasn't and their solution to add room scale is clumsy. The Vive uses the Lighthouse tracking system which uses two 'lighthouses', small cubes which only need power with no connection to the PC. The Lighthouse tracking system is also designed to work with more than just the controllers/headset to give the system extra capability, Valve have been encouraging other companies to develop their own Lighthouse peripherals.

The Rift tracking system uses additional cameras which have to be connected back to the host over USB, it's not great having to lay cables round the room for it and USB can be finicky especially with longer cables.

I started off with a Rift and thought I was fine with seated VR but the Vive's roomscale is really impressive and HTC/Valve seem to be putting a lot more effort into the longterm improvement on the system.

The Vive is far superior for room scale VR IMHO.

I'm sure it's better than the Rift, but it's not £200 better.

trying to hold out for sub £500..........Though its gonna be tough!

600 dollar/600 pounds, seems fair

This is the Vive's new permanent price.

Personally, I'll wait until the bundle includes their new "Knuckle" controllers.

Good price if this was 6 months ago but the rift has better controllers, a more comfortable headset, comes with much better free games and is 1/3 cheaper making this deal bad in comparison for me. only thing the vive does better is easier room scale setup

Great technology but I returned mine. To much motion sickness for me sadly. Took my breath away at times though. Heat.

Bargain price!