If I'm right this is an amazon prime deal but if you don't have prime I've just noticed it's £186 on the hive website. Heat added by the way8)
KC1
24 Aug 17#2
What's everyone's verdict between Hive and Nest?
Rusty82 to KC1
24 Aug 17#3
Similar products except Nest 'learns' your habits. I planned on getting the Nest but I got the Hive on amazon prime day for a little over a hundred quid so it was too big a discount to opt for the Nest.
That being said, I am very happy with the Hive. We didn't have any thermostat before though so anything was going to be better.
Will probably get a bulb or 2 down the line to add to the system.
Fitting is fairly straightforward for those who are somewhat handy, will be a breeze if you have an existing thermostat.
OrribleHarry to KC1
24 Aug 17#4
I personally don't like either as they are both both binary controllers. Ok if you have a really old boiler than can only handle hardwired controllers but if you have a modern boiler then weather compensation is vastly superior.
0scar222 to OrribleHarry
24 Aug 17#9
Yes quite true heating systems now going well beyond simple on / off thermostat's like the Nest and Hive Out door and indoor temps sensors intelligently controlling fully modulated boilers is way forward
OrribleHarry to 0scar222
24 Aug 17#10
Yes. All on/off timers create a "saw tooth" temperature in the home as the residual radiator heat causes the temperature to overshoot even after burners have stopped, they also only run the burner 100% or 0% there is no in between. Temperature compensation timers however are intelligent enough to stop the boilers burner in advance and just run the circulation pump to effectively utilise the residual heat to avoid overshooting. In addition it knows how much it needs to raise the temperature by and only warms the radiators just enough to achieve the desired temp.
InTheKnow444
24 Aug 17#5
Hive is great, especially when you can send a text to turn your water/heating on from anywhere.
reckon it saves me money as well so will easily pay for itself within 18 months
Ev0lution to InTheKnow444
24 Aug 17#6
You wont get your money back on Hive in 18 months and if you are in any way conscious about how you use your heating prior to buying a smart meter, in reality you will be lucky to get it back in 18 years. Its a gimmick similar to solar panels. It looks impressive and its easy to sell to people as one of those things that they 'really' need. Like 'Oh look! You can control your heating with your smartphone! That will save you thousands that will!'
But then how does that really save you money? It doesn't. It costs you money to find out if you are actually going to save money. The assumptions they make in their marketing spiel about your consumption (and they all do this) makes real life savings a lot less likely because they assume you have your heating on all the time at the same temperature and do not take into consideration any kind of insulation in your house. So some people will see savings but people who are already manually setting their heating themselves or who use their existing timer or thermostat will not see anything like the real life savings these companies claim.
kudos1uk to Ev0lution
24 Aug 17#12
What an idiotic comment, my solar panels were paid off after 5 years and now make me 2k a year tax free and index linked for a further 20 years, yeah just a gimmick.
dilkam to kudos1uk
25 Aug 17#13
What company did you use for solar panels? Any info would be useful for me as I'm looking to install solar panels myself.
Ev0lution to kudos1uk
25 Aug 17#16
And I've got my own unicorn tied up in the back and a golden goose that lays golden eggs all year round.
Give me a break mate.
Rusty82 to Ev0lution
25 Aug 17#15
This will save me money and pay for itself within the first year. That is a fact. I can show you the math if you require. :thumbsup:
InTheKnow444
24 Aug 17#7
Well considering I use to leave the water on overnight by mistake on a regular basis and had to leave the dials on a minimum of 2x90 minutes just to have the heating on timed prior to the Hive install, I'll now be saving money as I can tailor my needs down to 15 minutes if necessary.
But thanks for you input!
Rusty82 to InTheKnow444
25 Aug 17#14
I agree. I didn't have a thermostat before this. Moved into a new home and all I had was off or on at the boiler or setup a timer.
Regularly forget to turn heating off at night or when out of house. Was costing a fortune. This will save me money, that is a fact. My heating is much easier to control now.
InTheKnow444
24 Aug 17#8
Heat added, £175 is a good price
airbus330
24 Aug 17#11
Got Hive in a year ago. Simple to use, BG did a very tidy installation including a mod to the wiring on my boiler to make it go. Very good piece of kit. Hot at 175
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That being said, I am very happy with the Hive. We didn't have any thermostat before though so anything was going to be better.
Will probably get a bulb or 2 down the line to add to the system.
Fitting is fairly straightforward for those who are somewhat handy, will be a breeze if you have an existing thermostat.
Out door and indoor temps sensors intelligently controlling fully modulated boilers is way forward
Temperature compensation timers however are intelligent enough to stop the boilers burner in advance and just run the circulation pump to effectively utilise the residual heat to avoid overshooting.
In addition it knows how much it needs to raise the temperature by and only warms the radiators just enough to achieve the desired temp.
reckon it saves me money as well so will easily pay for itself within 18 months
But then how does that really save you money? It doesn't. It costs you money to find out if you are actually going to save money. The assumptions they make in their marketing spiel about your consumption (and they all do this) makes real life savings a lot less likely because they assume you have your heating on all the time at the same temperature and do not take into consideration any kind of insulation in your house. So some people will see savings but people who are already manually setting their heating themselves or who use their existing timer or thermostat will not see anything like the real life savings these companies claim.
Give me a break mate.
But thanks for you input!
Regularly forget to turn heating off at night or when out of house. Was costing a fortune. This will save me money, that is a fact. My heating is much easier to control now.