Lots of deals for similar ones from China, like the Jumper Ezbook 3 Pro(I've got one), but this is fulfilled by Amazon, which means you get Amazon customer service, send it back if you don't like, no questions asked.
There is no mention of metal shell, it would appear to be metal on the official website. The spec is a bit vague, but given you can send it back easily, not really an issue.
N3450 processor 4Gb ram(cannot upgrade) 64gb eMMC(cannot upgrade, but there is a M.2 slot) 14" 1080p screen, says IPS(hopefully!) M.2 slot seem to mention it, so you can add 2242 128/256/512gb M.2 wifi looks like dual band n (not ac) Type C usb, its in the description and pictures, (no idea if its video/charging/audio) 8 hour battery life weight, I'm going to guess at 1.4kg, not the 1.8kg they say
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winchman
27 Aug 17#32
There is only the Green left now, I reckon it could look rather nice in the flesh, they call it Tarnish.
LadyEleanor
26 Aug 17#31
It is that, Microsoft allowed a Windows install near free on anything at or less than 2GB, 32GB memory.
The 32GB drive limit still stands but with Windows memory intensive, 4GB Ram is now allowed on low end Atom hardware.
Picard123
25 Aug 17#26
OT, but the forthcoming Chuwi Lapbook Air looks very good. Nice spec. Just depends what price they sell it for.
My experience of Chuwi is not great - brilliant devices so long as you know someone who can compile a replacement rom / find a driver that works properly etc. :grin:
winchman to Picard123
25 Aug 17#28
But that's going to be in a different class altogether, over £300 so not really comparable.
Picard123 to winchman
25 Aug 17#29
Definitely, another price bracket or two above - probably around the £350 mark would be my guess. I just thought it looked interesting :-)
winchman to Picard123
25 Aug 17#30
It's then in a battle with the Xiaomi air, and from what I've seen that is a very nice well made bit of kit, not sure Chuwi or Cube are really up to competing with it.
SClub
25 Aug 17#14
If it's really IPS and less than 1.4KG, then this represents an excellent deal given that it comes with Amazon protection - great find :smile:
I've just bought an Onda Xiaoma 21 for similar money from China...fingers crossed I don't need to use the 'warranty' :grin:
Picard123 to SClub
25 Aug 17#20
I suspect it's a TN panel - that is what's stated on the manufacturer's site, on their Ali Express store etc.
winchman to Picard123
25 Aug 17#21
Yes, as you said earlier, but the Tbook4 is an IPS according to the review you have linked to earlier, it certainly looks to be the same. The seller has said IPS in the title and description twice, so very easy to return it for free stating not as described. The video also shows the little hatch in the bottom for adding the M.2 drive. The seller has also added green or Tarnish as they describe it on their website, looks really nice along with the Iron grey(dark grey), which is the colour tech tablets seemed so impressed with..
Picard123 to winchman
25 Aug 17#22
It's pretty easy to source and fit different panels though - there are loads of 'compatible' panels about. So for example, the TechTablets guy got an IPS panel, but then on Gearbest they list the one they sell as TN. Not sure if that's an error or if there are different configurations of this.
I don't really trust Amazon descriptions particularly for something like this as it's often just an admin clerk punching details into a spreadsheet. It might be IPS....or it might not! I'd rather go with the description on the manufacturers own website rather than a website like Amazon's...
Don't suppose it matters at the end of the day as you can user Amazon's returns policy, but I'd be reluctant to buy this direct without knowing 100% the type of panel used.
winchman to Picard123
25 Aug 17#23
You can always order one and find out ;-) It would be free to send back if its not IPS.
As you say, on aliexpress it says TN but they may have upgraded the ones sold on Amazon, certainly make them more appealing.
Picard123 to winchman
25 Aug 17#24
You go first ;-)
winchman to Picard123
25 Aug 17#25
i would but already got the 3 Pro ver 3 with the average touchpad!
TesseractOrion
25 Aug 17#17
Seller confirms metal case, 60hz screen and M.2 SSD slot. Not answered about Win 10 licence yet.
winchman to TesseractOrion
25 Aug 17#19
They have said to contact customer support if its not activated, it does suggest that maybe some or all are preloaded but not activated. I guess they will give you a license, either that or they will receive a whole load of returns and a load of negative feedback. Win 10 works without activation so you can try it out anyway, its just a case of going on line and it activates, not a hassle.
ristac
25 Aug 17#16
If anyone orders this it will be interesting to read your findings, please bookmark this topic and update us all...
winchman to ristac
25 Aug 17#18
I certainly would if i didn't already have the ezbook 3 pro.
LadyEleanor
24 Aug 17#3
I would guess it is the plastic version, there being a fair few out there, weight about 1.7KG.
I cannot see any reason whatsoever for the seller to understate.
Picard123 to LadyEleanor
25 Aug 17#10
It's metal build and 1.31kg.
Even lighter than that ancient 2GB Cherry Trail laptop you posted the other day which you claimed to be the lightest 14" laptop in the world!
winchman to LadyEleanor
25 Aug 17#15
en.bben.com/Pro…tml I can't believe they would produce a plastic model and call it the same name. There are lots of other things that are easily changed but I don't think the casing is one of them. Most listed on aliexpress are 1.4kg, which is the same weight as the Ezbook 3 Pro, this is a 14" so it maybe 1.5Kg.
Musicrab
24 Aug 17#4
Seller is in Guangdong. So being fulfilled by Amazon means we don't have to wait weeks for the kit. Is that the only advantage? I assume Amazon plays no part in Customer Service?
H0lySm0kes to Musicrab
24 Aug 17#6
Pretty sure anything fulfilled by Amazon gets full Amazon customer service
winchman to H0lySm0kes
25 Aug 17#13
Yes it does, that's what I think makes the difference here, you get a laptop with a good spec for the price, a warranty and the ability to easily send it back, I would say this more than covers the price increase of around £40 over ordering from China. You will pay £40 in VAT and handling fee if you order from China and end up paying customs. If it turns out that the screen is TN rather than IPS or a 48mhz, send it back. If its plastic rather than metal, pretty sure it will be metal, send it back. As long as it has dual band wifi, the fact it lacks ac I don't think makes a huge difference.
The RAM can not be upgraded, its built in. The 64gb eMMC is built in but they say there is an M.2 slot where you can add an M.2 SSD, think it will be limited to 2242 size.
At the end of the day you have bought the right to have a look at it and check it out, if you don't like it send it back, no questions asked, its what the consumer rights act gives you!!
Naith
25 Aug 17#12
Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable on this?
htslough
25 Aug 17#8
Never getting another Intel Atom. Horribly laggy and slow
plewis00 to htslough
25 Aug 17#11
Well it's a Celeron so that's ok...
But seriously you're obviously overworking whatever it was you had before as the latest Atom/Celeron chips are perfectly fine - even the Surface 3 uses one
Picard123
25 Aug 17#9
Looks like the same laptop as the TBao T-Book 4 except that they've given this BBen one only 4GB ram instead of 6GB and a TN screen. Also likely that it won't have a valid version of Windows if comes from the same ODM.
Not worth the £223 IMO, even if Amazon are dealing with the CS. Screen flicker, TN screen, possibly no valid Windows licence, no wireless AC, and other quirks, means that the £175 Jumper 3 Pro still the best deal out of China IMO, followed by the Chuwi Lapbook 12.3 (£210+).
reddit
25 Aug 17#7
Seems quite heavy but otherwise looks reasonable.
AJ92
24 Aug 17#5
:astonished: to good to be true? :
'Customer service
30-day money-back guarantee for any reason
For 30 days after the date of purchase, return your undamaged product and receive a full refund for ANY reason.
18-month warranty for quality-related issues
For 18 months after the date of purchase, we take care of all quality-related issues with a REPLACEMENT OR FULL REFUND. Reminder: Be sure to use your product as directed.'
croz123
24 Aug 17#2
Not bad for extremely light surfing and office work.
Opening post
There is no mention of metal shell, it would appear to be metal on the official website.
The spec is a bit vague, but given you can send it back easily, not really an issue.
N3450 processor
4Gb ram(cannot upgrade)
64gb eMMC(cannot upgrade, but there is a M.2 slot)
14" 1080p screen, says IPS(hopefully!)
M.2 slot seem to mention it, so you can add 2242 128/256/512gb M.2
wifi looks like dual band n (not ac)
Type C usb, its in the description and pictures, (no idea if its video/charging/audio)
8 hour battery life
weight, I'm going to guess at 1.4kg, not the 1.8kg they say
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The 32GB drive limit still stands but with Windows memory intensive, 4GB Ram is now allowed on low end Atom hardware.
techtablets.com/201…fo/
I've just bought an Onda Xiaoma 21 for similar money from China...fingers crossed I don't need to use the 'warranty' :grin:
I don't really trust Amazon descriptions particularly for something like this as it's often just an admin clerk punching details into a spreadsheet. It might be IPS....or it might not! I'd rather go with the description on the manufacturers own website rather than a website like Amazon's...
Don't suppose it matters at the end of the day as you can user Amazon's returns policy, but I'd be reluctant to buy this direct without knowing 100% the type of panel used.
As you say, on aliexpress it says TN but they may have upgraded the ones sold on Amazon, certainly make them more appealing.
I cannot see any reason whatsoever for the seller to understate.
Even lighter than that ancient 2GB Cherry Trail laptop you posted the other day which you claimed to be the lightest 14" laptop in the world!
I can't believe they would produce a plastic model and call it the same name. There are lots of other things that are easily changed but I don't think the casing is one of them. Most listed on aliexpress are 1.4kg, which is the same weight as the Ezbook 3 Pro, this is a 14" so it maybe 1.5Kg.
Is that the only advantage? I assume Amazon plays no part in Customer Service?
The RAM can not be upgraded, its built in. The 64gb eMMC is built in but they say there is an M.2 slot where you can add an M.2 SSD, think it will be limited to 2242 size.
At the end of the day you have bought the right to have a look at it and check it out, if you don't like it send it back, no questions asked, its what the consumer rights act gives you!!
Horribly laggy and slow
But seriously you're obviously overworking whatever it was you had before as the latest Atom/Celeron chips are perfectly fine - even the Surface 3 uses one
Not worth the £223 IMO, even if Amazon are dealing with the CS. Screen flicker, TN screen, possibly no valid Windows licence, no wireless AC, and other quirks, means that the £175 Jumper 3 Pro still the best deal out of China IMO, followed by the Chuwi Lapbook 12.3 (£210+).
'Customer service
30-day money-back guarantee for any reason
For 30 days after the date of purchase, return your undamaged product and receive a full refund for ANY reason.
18-month warranty for quality-related issues
For 18 months after the date of purchase, we take care of all quality-related issues with a REPLACEMENT OR FULL REFUND. Reminder: Be sure to use your product as directed.'
Official website
Aliexpress store
bben.aliexpress.com/sto…570
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bben.aliexpress.com/sto…eJE